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Signs of a sociopath in a chilling story from New York

Jason Bohn, who earned a law degree from the University of Florida, is charged with murdering his girlfriend, Danielle Thomas. Read:

Lawyer arrested in chicken restaurant ‘planned to torture his executive girlfriend’ as he is charged with murder after ‘beating her to death and leaving body in bathtub filled with ice,’ on

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Ox Drover

You know this story made my blood run cold….”normal” people just don’t want to believe that this can happen to other “normal” people but it can. It DOES.


I just wonder how somebody that possessive and violent appeared in his work environment.

He was a lawyer. That doesn’t necessarily mean that he worked in law or for a law firm. He could have been self-employed or unemployed. No place of work was given for him. It sounds like his license should have been revoked, but I don’t think they do that for domestic violence, do they?

His upbringing was violent and she had been in a battered womens’ shelter. Still, she went back to him.

There was nothing about what the neighbors did when they heard her repeated cries for help. The super knew as well.

Does anybody know if they ever evict people for chronic domestic violence?


G1S: Where I reside, repeated domestic violence is considered a crime and/or strike. If the police are called to a specific residence, repeatedly, for domestic violence, yes, they can be evicted through the normal court process. And yes, chronic domestic violence records and the problems stemming therefrom can be considered a co-ground for eviction.

If I hear domestic violence, I issue stern warnings and usually have the police show up. Of course, that’s just me. I know a lot of people just don’t want to be bothered or involved. That’s sad to me.

Ox Drover

There are a lot of unanswered questions in the article…just as Grace pointed out…

Several people I have worked with that I strongly feel are psychopaths or at least very high in P traits were very difficult to work with…manipulative, over bearing. My egg donor’s attorney who I think is a psychopath and has a reputation in the community as an “arsehole” is very narcissistic and over bearing as well. I would not want to work with him for sure.

My husband and I had a business partner who I think was a psychopath after I got to know him….in every aspect of his life, at home and at work…and his son is just like him. He took us to the cleaners.


From what I know the Bar usually will suspend or terminate an attorney’s license to practice once they are convicted of a crime – especially a felony.
The Bar does have moral standard requirements/clauses – yes I know – that seems laughable but a drunk driving or proven fraud or mishandling of client funds etc are all reasons for dismissal.

What I really wish I understood was why she went back but when I went for help after I had been beaten I was told that it was highly unusual for a woman to report on the first domestic violence incident and that the rate of dropping the first report was enormous – it usually takes an average of seven beatings before a woman will even get a restraining order on a man and then takes longer for her to report him when he violates the order.

The truth is I reported because I had figured out he was using drugs and I thought if the police would get involved he would be forced to straighten up and I would get back the man that had love bombed me. It never occurred to me that the drug use was a symptom of a much deeper problem – he used stimulants because he is a Malignant Narcissist and required the stimulation – he was violent in his expressions and I had so many red flags I ignored. I thought I was smarter and tough enough to handle it. I wish sometimes I could slap myself for my hubris and stupidity.

Why the hell did I choose that for myself and expose my children although I tried to keep them shielded from much contact with him it affected me and so affected them anyway. He really saw them as interfering with my “servicing” his needs – for food, house cleaning, sex and basic step and fetch it. They saw him yell at me and mistreat me – two young girls wondering why their Mom would tolerate this…so he ignored them.

I hope the lessons learned from my getting away and the changes in me have a positive impact on their view of relationships and not just the actual relationship itself. Today I am dating a wonderful KIND man. The girls adore him and he is KIND – very smart, funny, gentle and KIND.

Anyway – when I read the article and that she had been in a safe house and that she then went back to the apartment I just wanted to cry out – like when you know an innocent is about to get it from the bad guy in a horror flick – “No…don’t go there!”

And I do wonder about the neighbors – why did no one go to her aid or at least call the police? If someone is screaming they are being killed you would think that people could at least pick up the phone.

So sad, so very sad this story is – and truly there but for the Grace of God go I… Because my dirty secret is that after I got the restraining order I allowed him to violate it for 15 months – when he wasn’t in jail or the psych ward… Even after getting death threats – I thought I could help him.

A very wise person said to me something that helped me let go – “Breck- maybe you are standing in the way of God’s will for him and him getting the help he needs…”


Wow, Breck, I’ve never heard those statistics before about how much it usually takes before a woman will get a restraining order.

I’ve called twice because of screams coming from two different neighbors. The police came both times. The first time did not go well. The teen needed help, but the police bought the line that she screamed constantly (sounded like she was in terror) for over 1/2 hour because she didn’t like something on Sponge Bob. This was at 1:30 AM. Seriously, that’s what happened.

The second time it turned out the teenage daughter was home alone with a friend. Again, it sounded like somebody was in horrible trouble. It turns out that the two girls were chasing each other around the house throwing water balloons at each other and because Mom wasn’t home, they were screaming. We couldn’t hear them laughing. The police came. The cop and I both rolled our eyes when she explained to me what the two girls had been up to.

Kindness is a remarkable thing to note in someone. A guy a work with shows kindness in his words and actions. I noticed it because it was so out of the norm. It awed me. I realized how little we see of genuine kindness on a day to day basis.


I had read those statistics, long ago, and it’s so sad. And, with statistics like that, people misinterpret WHY those statistics even exist: Stockholm Syndrome, trama-bond, etc. “Well, she went back! She was ASKING for it!” Sheeesh

How these violent predators behave in their work environments is probably “normal.” Yeah, people recognize that the spath is somewhat “off” or “not right,” but they are able to put on that facade for as long as necessary to get through the day. “Hey, I’m a nice guy – just having a bad day,” is how they explain away their bad behaviors. And, who’s to argue, otherwise?

The only epiphanys that co-workers have about the spaths in their environments are AFTER the facts come out. “Yeah, yeah….he always WAS a little aggressive, but he was an attorney, so I sort of figured that was part of his professional demeanor.”

Yepper….it’s always AFTER the facts that people begin to connect the proverbial dots, albiet reluctantly.


Eerie…the first exspath used to threaten me with almost the same words as Bohn used any time he believed that I was thinking of leaving him: “I will hunt you down like the dog that you are.”


I think this might be a line from a movie. “I will hunt you down like the dog that you are.”

I’ve overheard it before, too, but as a joke and not meant maliciously.

Connecting those dots – how many times do people figure it applies to just that one person and only for this case.

Killers are so rare that we must never forget the pain and damage a sociopath can be to their “supply” emotionally. I don’t know what’s worse, having my heart and soul crushed to death or death itself. Honestly, it’s been hell on earth.

Not as rare as you might think.
The only thing stopping most spaths from killing is that they lack the balls. They don’t want to get caught. So they’ve figured out another way to kill: sabotage.

Sabotage can happen in so many ways: your car, you plane, your health, your mind.

You can die by accident, by poison or by suicide. They don’t care, as long as you die. They demand the human sacrifices.

Another way that they kill is by cancer or heart attack. My aunt died by spath induced lymphoma. Though it takes years, the stress is a killer too. My spath went to an elderly neighbors’ house once. He came back and told me how horrible the old man was and that he purposely enraged him to see if he could make him have a heart attack.

I know it’s been hell for you, Speaking, but you have survived. So flip your spath the “bird” and live to enjoy another day. He won’t get your soul. No way.


SpeakingUp, killers are not rare, at all. Only 10% of all homicides are brought to trial. That means that there is a process of investigation, collection of evidence, charged and arrested, Grand Jury Hearing, trial preparation, and the eventual outcome/verdict. Many, many, many people “get away with murder.”

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