How to recognize and recover from the sociopaths – narcissists in your life › Forums › Lovefraud Community Forum – General › What about loyalty?
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December 29, 2021 at 4:17 pm #66965eric678Participant
What do you think about loyalty in relationships with sociopaths/narcissists? Is it even possible to trust these people?
I have read this article and I have doubts now
https://blablawriting.net/essay-examples/loyalty -
December 29, 2021 at 10:07 pm #66966resilient85Participant
No!! In my 12 year experience with the man whom my therapist called the worst sociopath she’s ever learned of, what appeared to be loyalty was actually carefully crafted lying. And I buy/bought all of it! He has/had me snowed! I try to trust and have trusted him, and even when the horror of his lies are/were exposed, he finds/found the most charming and convincing ways to bring me back into his graces. I’m having trouble leaving him. I keep getting sucked back in and hurt all over again. I wish I never had met him.
His loyalty is nothing but lies and trusting him is just inflicting torture upon myself.
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December 29, 2021 at 10:31 pm #66967polestarParticipant
Hi eric – I wasn’t sure if your question was wondering if a sociopath could ever be loyal, or if the partner of a sociopath should be loyal to them if they are still in a relationship with them. I couldn’t access the article you mentioned because my iPad told me that it was not safe to do so. In any case, loyalty does not only mean not cheating on someone, but it also means that to be loyal – in my opinion – would be to “ have the person’s back “ and be there for their partner mentally, physically and emotionally. By the very definition of a sociopath, so to speak, they do everything the opposite. They do everything to tear down their partner. As far as cheating goes, they are notoriously known to be cheaters. So they are not loyal. As far as one being loyal to them out of ethics if still in a relationship with them, even if actively trying to get free, I like what Shakespeare said, “ To thine own self be true, and then it follows as night follows day, thou cans’t not then be false to any man.” Thank you for your post and many blessings to you.
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January 7, 2022 at 7:25 am #67054Donna AndersenKeymaster
eric678- sociopaths are loyal only to themselves. A sociopath will never be loyal to you or anyone else. They may pretend to be loyal, they may speak the words, but it’s all a manipulation strategy to get you to do what they want. Therefore, I see no reason to be loyal to a sociopath.
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January 24, 2022 at 11:39 am #67151sept4Participant
Did not read the article but loyalty is a one way street with the sociopath/narcissist. They expect complete undying loyalty from you while giving nothing but disloyalty in return.
And they think this is completely fine because they are the king and you are their minion. They are like a feudal overlord and you are a lowly tenant owing them fealty. It is unilateral. You give everything and they give nothing back.
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