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April 4, 2023 at 7:12 pm #70030doesiteverendParticipant
Hi 👋 I’m new here so just thought I’d share my story as tbh I haven’t really let anyone else know all of the details except my mum. So from the start I had 2 kids from a previous very abusive relationship (psychically and emotionally) I stayed single for 4 years after this and raised my 2 kids myself. I met my N on a night out he swept me off my feet we fell head over heals. Things moved quickly he had his own house but stayed in mine most of the time. He was so good to me bought me a new car and pushed me to get my licence and get back driving, was generally so supportive of me. The red flags slowly started creeping in, he would start arguments and dissappear for days on end. Then he would blow up my phone with messages of how much he loved me and is going to change bla bla bla. He ended up moving in with me and I got pregnant with our son. The disappearing would still happen every 2-3 weeks like clockwork. He would say he just can’t stand confrontation because of how he was raised (he’s mom was abusive) so he would run home and in his words be miserable in the house the whole time till he would love bomb me and return. This cycle just repeated and repeated. Our son was born and in-between him leaving we were getting on so well and he was an amazing dad, he hated his house because of the memories of abuse so he decided to sell. My aunt just happened to be planning on selling her house at the time. This house was to be mine and my sisters inheritance so she took like 70K off the price. I wasn’t working at the time so I couldn’t go on the mortgage so we agreed that he would buy the house and I’d anything ever happened between us he would pay me back the money. We where also engaged to be married he bought me a really expensive ring and honestly we where on cloud 9 OR SO I THOUGHT! this is where it all goes tits up for me. I was renting a house at the time which I gave up to move into the house he just bought for “us”. The first night we spent in the house was the change straight away he kept referring it as his house and making me feel uncomfortable. The running away every 2 weeks stopped as he had no where to run to but the silent treatment continued and tbh it was better when he was gone than walking on eggshells around the house. I left a couple of times stayed with family but he’d always beg me to come back and promise he’d change. He started therapy and I accidentally fell pregnant with our daughter (pill and morning after pill failed). He got so much more abusive verbally and I left to stay with my mum for basically the whole pregnancy. He was still treating me like shit throughout the pregnancy and when I was due to give birth we made up and he was there for the birth. He was everything I needed when I was in labour and I could see the person I fell in love with again and thought maybe he’s changed back to the person he used to be. WRONG.I stupidly moved back into the house because I actually had no where else to go my mum didn’t have room for all of us. Long story short he reverted into the evil person he’s been and on Christmas eve started a HUGE fight threats to kill and off he went out drinking said he wouldn’t be back till after new years. I was so heartbroken I didn’t get out of bed Christmas day my mum took the kids. The next day I got up packed up all our stuff and moved to a refuge with my 4 kids one being only 8 weeks old. He didn’t give a shit that we where homeless while he lived in a 4 bedroomed house. I finally got an apartment to rent after 6 weeks living in the refuge. When I ever brought up the 70K that we agreed would be mine he’d laugh and make out I was crazy and we never had such an agreement. He was taking the 2 kids every Saturday overnight but since has stopped all contact with them and hasn’t seen them in 3 months. It’s been over a year now since I left and I’ve only recently realised how much of a narcissist he actually is. Just thought I’d write this down for the first time ever there’s so much more I could write but I’d be here all night lol. If you made it this far thanks for reading, I’m still healing and I’m a work in progress but I’ll get there
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April 5, 2023 at 9:58 am #70031need2healParticipant
Hi Doesiteverend,
First, yes it will end! I’m so sorry you’ve gone through such a horrible experience. As I read your story my mind kept going to your kids. You absolutely deserve someone who will treat you like a queen and not play games with your head, heart, and emotions. And your kids don’t need that in their lives either. In these formative years of their lives they need someone who is going to love them and BE THERE for them unconditionally. Not someone who disappears for a few days without warning, let alone a few months!
I completely understand that behavior as well as the walking on eggshells. Although we never formally lived together my ex-N spent most of his days and nights with me. But every couple of weeks or so would pick a fight over something stupid and disappear for a few days. I would be devastated at first and then about the time I realized my life was more peaceful he’d start love bombing me again. I learned that what he was doing was seeing other women and he could do it without “fault” because “we weren’t together.” Once he disappeared for a week without any fight or explanation at all and then tried to claim he knew he really loved me because “other women don’t turn me on.” He often claimed he had to “walk on eggshells” around me when in reality I had transformed into a complete doormat just to try to please him and not irritate him. It was when I would try to stand up for myself that he’d claim the “eggshells” fear for himself.
So, as I read of your experiences I knew exactly what you’re talking about. You’ve made a great step forward in getting yourself and your kids out of that mess! Does anyone else, like your aunt who sold the house, know of your agreement about the $70k? If so, they may be able to support you in a lawsuit against him for the money.
Keep moving forward making a healthy environment for yourself and your children! Sounds like he is making it easy to go no contact which is the golden path to you having a much better future. The pain will end, you will find yourself happier and more confident as time goes on and the right people or person will come into your life. Someone you can love and trust. Someone who will be safe for you and your children and devoted to making you happy.
There are a lot of books about narcissists, sociopaths, etc that many of us here found very helpful. The more knowledge we have about their behaviors the more confidence we build in knowing they are the problem and we were taken advantage of. The first one I read had me wondering how could this author have known about my life?! The voices you find here will be very supportive as we, too, have been where you are now.
Best of luck to you and know you’ve have done the right thing by moving out of a very toxic environment.
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April 5, 2023 at 10:13 am #70032doesiteverendParticipant
Thanks so much for your reply. Myself and my kids are doing so much better now thankfully and him not seeing them is most likely a blessing in disguise. I forgot to mention that in the midst of all of that chaos he started drinking heavily which is what I blamed his behaviour on but I now see that its no excuse to treat any human that way alcoholic or not! It’s a bitter pill to swallow but I’m accepting the fact that he was like that all along and just hid it from me and played fake so I fell in love with him and it worked like a charm. Tbh I don’t care about the money anymore I let it go and Said to the universe that all my bad luck will go with it, I’m just so glad to be out of that situation and myself and my kids can live in complete peace. I’m currently reading when love is a lie which has opened my mind so much yo his behaviours and made me realise that he most likely is just a true narcissist. I’m sorry to hear you’ve been through the same. There really is way too many men out there like this which makes me wanna stay single forever 🤣
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April 6, 2023 at 9:59 am #70039emilie18Participant
doesiteverend: I am so glad you are out of that toxic relationship. From what you describe, I agree – he Is a narcissist. Add drinking to that and you have a volatile situation. I lived with an alcoholic for ten years and I too, kept hoping he would change – but it only got progressively worse. I would issue an ultimatum, he would stop drinking, but within months start again. Each time the interval between sober and not sober would be shorter. For my sanity and the safety of myself and my son, I had to leave. Twenty years later he finally went to AA and has maintained his sobriety for 15 years, and we are friendly, but that experience left me vulnerable to someone – anyone – who would love me. So eventually I let in a man who, like yours, lovebombed me, swept me off my feet, made me believe I was worthwhile, then used me, crushed my heart, cheated on me and left me in deep debt. It wasn’t until I finally forgave myself and let go of the resentment that I started to heal. Part of that was letting go of the money and possessions he took from me.
This forum helped me SO much, and I hope it will help you too. You have made the right decision and sounds like you are well on your way to healing. Keep posting – recovery stories are so important on here to give us all hope!
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April 6, 2023 at 10:22 am #70041Donna AndersenKeymaster
doesiteverend – What a terrible experience. I am so sorry for what you endured. Please understand that it is good that he is not seeing your children. The less contact he has with him, the better. I assure you, if he ever says that he loves the kids, it is not true. He is certainly a sociopath, and sociopaths are incapable of love.
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April 27, 2023 at 4:31 am #70133Escapefor1Participant
doesiteverend,
Your situation sounds much like one of mine. I was married for a long time to an overt grandiose narcissist. After divorcing him, I learned quite a lot about narcissists. But I still got involved with and lived with another more covert narcissist. Many of the behaviors you describe were behaviors I also saw.
I’m responding because I’m quite certain that in addition to the underlying NPD level narcissism (and I would say some degree of psychopath), he was untreated Bipolar with very long cycles. It turned out the times I met him (twice around years apart situation), he was manic while I thought that was his normal. After he was manic a while, the grandiosity came out unhidden. He couldn’t maintain his mask. He used alcohol to mellow him enough to try to keep up the mask as well as self-medicate and relieve stress from things he couldn’t face. He knew he was bipolar (many around him and a psychiatrist suggested it, and he told me he was worried he was), but he refused to get treatment. Untreated, it gets worse and worse. It can take 10 years to get diagnosed accurately and 2-3 years to find the right type of treatment if the person is dedicated. Mine wasn’t.
People with bipolar are known for having to leave for long periods of time, maybe days, weeks, even years in some cases. And then they come back. Mine travelled for work, and when he was under high stress, he’d travel and binge drink. Then come back. After he moved in with me, he would just leave amidst an argument and be gone for a couple of hours or take to his bed and not emerge until the next day. And he was a pro at the hostile, blaming, silent treatment, up to 2 weeks one time. One time on a 14 hour drive. Awkward. Turned out he’d been an alcoholic off and on, and went back to it after I asked him to leave. He then stalked and stole from me for years.
So you might look into bipolar if his mental condition becomes relevant, like with custody. Additionally, when manic, people with bipolar go on spending sprees. This could affect his keeping your house, and his ability to make child support payments.
Fortunately, it seems your ex is the type of narcissist to go away and leave you alone, though they often pop back later and try again. My ex-H was like that. Once it was over and there was nothing more to be gained by fighting, legally or otherwise, he left my life.
As for trying to regain your $70k or your house, that’s probably a loss. Unfortunately it can take everything you have to get away, but it’s worth it. Hopefully if there were witnesses, and especially a will or other document stating your aunt’s wishes, you could sue him to get it back. But if he fights it, a civil court case can cost almost that much to fight, so it may not be worth the aggravation.
If you do pursue legal action, find a lawyer familiar with DV and abuse, and especially one trained by High Conflict Institute (see Bill Eddy’s book Splitting). Lawyers understanding this personality type can keep costs and escalation down, and get to resolution more quickly.
Good luck! Be glad you’re free, and hopefully your children too! It does get better, just can take a while. You not only mourn the loss of what you thought was a good and intimate relationship, but also of the person you thought he was, the person he presented himself to you as. Your love was real. Hold onto that. And hopefully your future relationships will be better after learning about narcissists. Mine have been after learning about both overt and covert narcissists.
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