How to recognize and recover from the sociopaths – narcissists in your life › Forums › Lovefraud Community Forum – General › Personality disorder vs personality
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June 10, 2024 at 4:02 am #72180sept4Participant
I know narcissistic personality disorder and antisocial personality disorder are both in the DSM so it’s correct to describe them as personality disorders.
But I actually think it’s more helpful to describe them and label them as just personality. Because “disorder” implies that they are rare and that they can be cured. As if there is a good normal personality underneath the disorder.
But these personalities are actually pretty common and cannot be cured. It’s just fundamentally who these people are in their very essence. It’s their true fundamental personality. It’s not a condition that can be improved or changed. So I think it’s more helpful to describe it as personality rather than a disorder.
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June 10, 2024 at 4:06 am #72181sept4Participant
That is also why it’s useless to reference or try to prove a personality disorder in court. It’s not illegal or unlawful to have a personality disorder. It’s just these people’s fundamental personality. A court is not going to hold someone liable for their personality type. It is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is their conduct for which they can be liable, not their personality.
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June 12, 2024 at 9:50 am #72187emilie18Participant
sept4 – I understand the concept of not labeling a personality type as “disordered”, but sometimes the labels are important, especially when one is trying to figure out WTF just happened. When I was involved with the once charming, sweet, kind man who stole thousands from me and basically told me to pound sand, I was flummoxed. I knew him as one personality, then he turned into another – something that was so Jekyll and Hyde it floored me. It wasn’t until I found LoveFraud that I could understand what happened – and the labels helped a lot. It wasn’t me being gullible and naive – it was him being a narcissist and possibly a sociopath. I could finally comprehend his actions, define them in the context of a mental disorder, and understand my role as a victim so much more clearly. True “disorder” implies “order” is possible, but not always. True, the courts don’t see a personality disorder like a mental disorder – but it truly is. There is some mental hard wiring in these people that is totally missing, dysfunctional, messed up and it it NOT fixable. Labels can be limiting and mean and judgmental, but they also can give meaning and truth to one’s experience.
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