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August 27, 2017 at 9:05 pm #41991wavid144Participant
Last January, my began a online affair with a military romance scammer. Previously, She had come out of an illness where she was bedridden and I had to take care of her day and night. This lasted for over a year. A few months after this I was diagnosed with a life threatening illness. She began talking to this phoney soldier online. This is someone she never actually spoke with. She fell in love with a stolen picture of a soldier via instant messaging. He began grooming her, asking questions like “Tell me about yourself” She would be vague and say things like “I’m just a down to earth girl.” He would ask her “What are you looking for in a man?” She would say “I don’t know how to answer a question like that.” He began to “love bomb” her with flattery and romance, he would say, “You are so kind and beautiful, I can’t wait to call you my wife” She would say “I have a husband” he would say “We will figure that one out later” and pour on more flattery like “You are my dream come true”. She began to respond with things like “The things you say make me feel tingly all over” and “I wish I had met you before I met my husband.” Then the affair was on. Every sentence began or ended with pet names. She was “Babe, Honey” and he was “my love”. She began to act like someone who was limerent. Floating around in a romantic “high” all the time. I began to suspect she was having an affair. But How? Where? When? We were together 24/7? Soon, she became hyper romantic and hyper sexual towards me. Telling me she loved me 20 times a day, demanding sex 3 times a day. I loved her so I tried to keep up. I thought she was losing her mind. It’s not normal for a 58 year old woman. About this time, she told me “I’m going to have to blacken my teeth and let my hair get gray, I have lots of men trying to friend me on Facebook” I said “You are a married woman, I trust you to do the right thing, I love you.” She said “I love you too.” I told her, “Everyone has their day, you look very beautiful, be careful on facebook, and if anyone gets out of line, shut them down.” She promised she would. She didnt, they were all flattering her and as she never dated much before we were married, she enjoyed the attention. On the same day, I also warned her about fraudsters on Facebook and that there were false profiles and not everyone was who they pretended to be. She began to transform before my eyes at this point. Lots of new clothes, she went from short hair to long hair, (something she had never done), Granny gowns and support bras to baby doll lingerie, and padded push-up bras. Lots of costume jewelry, she began riding her exercise bike like crazy trying to lose weight like never before. She became much more aggressive sexually than she had ever been. One day smiling she asked me “Do you think we should get a divorce?” I said “No baby! Why would ask such a thing I love you!” She said “All our friends are divorced, and they seem happy!” She claims to not even remember this discussion now. The same day, someone tried to call her on Facebook Messenger and she tried hiding the phone, smiling an embarrassed smile. Soon I was on an emotional roller coaster with her. One day hyper romantic and sexual, the next critical and nit picky, insulting and emotionally abusive. Back to hyper romantic and sexual, she began calling me “babycakes and treating me like a sick child she was responsible for and protecting from a terrible secret. Soon, she began showing me pictures of her online “pen pal” (i.e. the romance scammer) I was naive, didn’t believe that anyone could fall in love on the internet it just seemed absurd. She soon was getting me to take pictures of her on her phone unknowingly she was sending them to her new “love”. One day I walked by the kitchen table and I saw a flash, it looked like she had taken a “selfie” of her chest in a sexy nighty. She said she was just looking at facebook and accidently hit the camera button on her phone. I naively accepted her explanation as I loved and trusted her. One night, I thought she was texting the kids sitting across from me and she was carrying on a highly sexual conversation with this (Sgt David Jones) character. I found out later that this was when the discussion took place because she asked me at the time “How do you spell “passionate”? ” I told her, the real discussion went like this Scammer: “Do you like sex?’ Wife: “Yes, I’m a very passionate person, my husband calls me his hot pepper, I am Hispanic you know”. She said “How big are you?” He promptly sent her a picture of a penis he had stolen off of craigslist I assume, and said “I want to F— you really hard.” All this right in front of me! We began hemorrhaging money for no apparent reason and so I got an additional part time job to keep up with her spending. This was a serious mistake as it freed her up with more time to herself to send the scammer more money. He asked her to marry him twice, both times she said “yes.” He said “Divorce your husband” she said “no, my husband is ill and you will have to wait for me.” He told her “You will be a rich widow.” Once he was able to get her to fall in love with him, he began asking for money, first 800.00 for a passport as he was stuck in Ghana and needed to get back to Afghanistan or be awol. After that, it was to purchase leave time so they could “be together” She sent him money over 21 times, all on credit card cash advances, we are now bankrupt. Many of these accounts she opened herself without my knowledge or consent. Many were mine and she was on the account as well being my spouse. I got a fraud alert one one of my credit cards and she began suspiciously asking for time to visit her sister on a weekend where I would be out of town. This all happened the same day. She also asked me to go fill up her car for her for the trip. I began to get angry, realizing that she was asking me to fill up her car so she could go meet a “lover” somewhere. I broke into her Facebook chat and discovered the following conversation.
WIfe : Where R U my love? I worry about you!
Scammer: I am here.
Wife: I love you so..I can’t wait to be with you.
Scammer: I love you too babe, soon we can be together, I can meet you at my house in New York or in Austin.
Wife: No I will be in Mineral Wells my love, do you understand?
Scammer: I can do that, I can’t wait to see you and hold you through the night,
Wife: I can’t wait for you to make love to me
Scammer: Awww I want to F— you!
Here my wife of 37 years who had saved herself for marriage to me was arranging to have sex and run off with a man she had never met in person. Absolutely incredible. I blew up, ordered her to leave and told her she was an idiot! That this man was not coming, he did not want a casual sex partner or a wife, he just wanted money and she was stupid enough to send it to him. I further told her that he was not not coming, and that all she would hear from him is how he needed more money for the trip. She said “He’ll pay the money back,” and “No he won’t” and drove away. I had a heart attack on the spot and had to be taken to the hospital. She went to her sisters and kind of “snapped out of it” and sent me a text “I believe you”. Broke it off with him saying “You hurt me, you are not real!” , Don’t ever contact me again. Then she said she wanted to reconcile. We have been trying to do that every since but she keeps saying things that makes me believe that if she ever had any kind of moral compass, due to the psychological damage inflicted by the scammer, it is gone. She says things like “Well, I guess you will always be the only man in my life.” When I waited on her hand and foot for a year when she was bedridden I barely ever got a thank you. He gives her romantic BS and she says “You are so kind and sweet to me my love.” unreal! I asked her if she knew it could be fatal to me with my heart condition if I discovered her affair. She said “yes, I did, but it didn’t stop me.” I proved to her that he was on 10 dating sites and put her in touch with a single woman he was dating online at the same time he was talking to her. She was always paranoid about my cheating on her even though I never did. I Asked her if she would have broken up with him if she knew he was cheating on her. She said yes, I said it was ok for you to cheat on me but it was not ok for him or me to cheat on you? She gave me a puzzled look like she never realized that she thought she was the only one who didn’t have to live by the rules of monogamy. She doesn’t seem anywhere as enthusiastic about our marriage or as passionate about reconciling as she was her affair. She doesn’t want to talk about it, she just wants me to “get over it and move on.” What has happened to my wife? We weren’t fighting when this started, we were best friends and lovers, we were a normal married couple, we were always together. Is my wife a sociopath a victim or both. She did all this when I was diagnosed with a heart valve problem. She sent all the money for my surgery to her lover. She acted like she wished I would die so she wouldn’t hurt me when she left me for him -
August 28, 2017 at 12:11 pm #41995Donna AndersenKeymaster
wavid144 – what a terrible story. I would say your wife has some level of disorder. One key is the fact that as soon as you got sick, she couldn’t be bothered to help you. That is very typical of a sociopath. You were ok as long as you were providing and she needed you, but when you needed her, she wanted a change. Then she met the scammer online and yes, was victimized by him. You are absolutely right about him – he’s probably a professional scammer based in Africa. But the fact was that she was the one who went online and talked to him. Then all of a sudden she wanted to trade in her partner. You experienced the “devalue and discard,” although she didn’t follow through with the discard.
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August 28, 2017 at 1:10 pm #41996wavid144Participant
The only reason she didnt follow through with the discard is that her escape boat sank.
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August 28, 2017 at 2:48 pm #42000wavid144Participant
he first three years of our marriage I had to deal with the “I hate you, dont leave me.” she has always had trouble with impulsive spending and lying. She is an introvert. The middle child in a large family who never bonded with her father who always called her “El gordo” which means the fat one. She has serious self esteem issues. I have had her medical Dr put her on Webutrin. When I had my surgery, she was there every day. She seems to be back to normal. Though, the fact that she endangered my life,destroyed our finances, put my health in jeapardy over an online fantasy scares me to death.
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August 28, 2017 at 1:33 pm #41997wavid144Participant
I think Shes borderline with narcissistic features.
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August 28, 2017 at 2:13 pm #41998wavid144Participant
The first three years of our marriage I had to deal with the “I hate you, dont leave me.” she has always had trouble with impulsive spending and lying. She is an introvert. The middle child in a large family who never bonded with her father who always called her “El gordo” which means the fat one. She has serious self esteem issues. I have had her medical Dr put her on Webutrin. When I had my surgery, she was there every day. She seems to be back to normal. Though, the fact that she endangered my life,destroyed our finances, put my health in jeapardy over an online fantasy scares me to death.
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August 28, 2017 at 2:47 pm #41999wavid144Participant
The reason I say borderline (petulant) is this episode fits in with a need to rescue and be rescued.
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August 28, 2017 at 7:22 pm #42001Donna AndersenKeymaster
wavid144 – the more you describe her, the more I agree that she is disordered in some way. There is no treatment for narcissistic, borderline or antisocial personality disorder. So no matter what her diagnosis is, the key point for you is that she will not change.
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August 28, 2017 at 8:58 pm #42008wavid144Participant
Is that a false hope?
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August 29, 2017 at 10:17 am #42010suzi98Participant
I’m having the same dilemma I met a man 16 years ago who seemed lovely , he told me he had been locked away at age 14 untill 18 in a young offenders and then been abandoned not seeing his parents for the next four years . He also said his parents had had him committed into a mental unit after a breakdown after splitting from his ex. It took me 14 years to find out neither was true but in that time I had tried to treat him well because of the loss of his life for all that time , I financially supported him , always spent money on him to show him he was loved . We married but soon after we married he started to accuse me of having affairs . We split up and it took a year for me to take him back , him promising to change and how he couldn’t live without me etc . On / off for the last 9 years his accusations have got worse basically I’m cheating with anyone I come into contact with , he isn’t a hands on father , doesn’t financially support his children , calls me a money grabber for asking for money for his children . I have to take on extra shifts so work long hours as I’m supporting the children by myself , yet he accuses im only working the extra hours so I don’t spend time with him . In the past his been on dating sites , even a really disgusting one yet even though he was caught he said nothing happened . One year we split and he picked up a woman at a pub , he says his brother gave her his number not him but then txt her and met her even going to where she lived . He again said nothing happened but her last txt which I saw was asking him why he wasn’t replying to her texts as she thought he was the one . He always blames other people for things he has done and never apologises for anything even wen caught out . He usually blames me it’s my moods , I’m working too much the grief I felt over the loss of my daughter was ” fake”. He tells me stuffs all in my head even when it’s obvious. Some times he can be extra nice but it doesn’t last and he soon becomes cold and spiteful again . This is an outline there is so much more to this but please can someone tell me is he a sociopath is this what I’ve been up against for years ?
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August 29, 2017 at 4:55 pm #42012suzi98Participant
He doesn’t take responsibility for anything he has always looked for someone else to blame and over the last 5 years it’s been me his blamed for as much as he can , even his cheating … if I hadn’t asked him to leave because he had yet again accused me of cheating , then he wouldn’t have cheated . I can’t speak to anyone by text message as I’m accused of carrying on and now his reverted to accusing me of chasing someone he had accused me of cheating with 5 years ago all because I’ve finally got a passport and travel to the country this person came from . To everyone else he appears normal and I can’t understand how he can be these 2 different people , I’ve tried to read as much as I could in the last few days about sociopaths but now I’m more confused if he a sociopath or a narcissist how do I find the difference and is a narcissist as cruel as he is ?
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August 29, 2017 at 5:07 pm #42013suzi98Participant
Also if there’s a truth to be had he will choose to lie from big things to small things . Even when his caught out lying he will deny his lied , honestly I’m so frustrated and confused by his behaviour because he sees nothing wrong in it .
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