How to recognize and recover from the sociopaths – narcissists in your life › Forums › Lovefraud Community Forum – General › Which trauma is better?
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February 16, 2022 at 5:26 pm #67291snownfireParticipant
Hey, I posted about my experience with my ex fiance narcissist in another forum but now have a question regarding my mother. My mom has been married to my narcissist father for close to 30 years and has only the last year or two begun to stand up for herself. They still have young children living at home and she wants to do everything she can to protect them from his emotional, spiritual, and mental abuse but doesn’t know if the trauma of a separation or divorce would be worse than continuing to fight the best she can in the home now. What would your opinions be? He would never agree to leave which would mean she would have to go the legal route. She is a Christian and has never considered divorce to be an option but recently has been realizing just how harmful it is staying in the relationship for her and the kids. She is not caring for herself but doing everything she can to protect my siblings and help them become healthy people. I told her she needs to start looking out for herself too and that she deserves happiness and peace just like us kids do. My heart is breaking for my dear mother. But which would be worse: sticking out the fight or leaving the relationship?
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February 18, 2022 at 9:06 pm #67300polestarParticipant
Hi snownfire –
You have been fantastically strong in the face of what you had to endure and the changes that you have had to go through. To heal from all of that takes a tremendous amount of energy and psychological fortitude. You are still in the process of having to assess what happened, really understand it on a deep level, even if you know what happened on an intellectual level, and then go through a lot of healing and all the while needing to turn around to get on with your life and put the past behind you. That is a tremendous amount to deal with at present. As I said, you are amazing and are really doing it all so well with your religious faith helping you. At this point, it would not be wise to get in the middle of your mother’s relationship with your dad. He did help you and it would not be wise to try to help your mom in opposition to your dad. He would find out and then you would become the target and you do not have the strength to deal with any of that. Your mother has dealt with him for so many years, and though I do understand her conundrum regarding your siblings, she will need to seek professional help from some kind of therapist and not from you at this point in both of your lives. Your mother sounds like a self aware, smart woman and with some professional help, she will know what the best thing for her to do.
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February 25, 2022 at 10:54 pm #67335snownfireParticipant
polestar
Thank you for your encouragement and advice. I now too see that it would be best for me to focus on my own healing and support my Mom as best I can without getting involved. She actually told me a couple of nights ago that she was going to separate from him! She told me she was going to do it over the weekend but then decided to wait a couple of months so that she can formulate a solid plan kids/finances/timing/location etc. I’m glad she sees the need to leave and that she is willing/working towards making that step. It is difficult to live in the inevitable though and I am working hard to find a place to live so I can be somewhat removed from the situation. Gosh, stress is so exhausting. I’m starting to feel sick again like I did with my ex which terrifies me; but I decided to try and get more sleep when I feel so exhausted. I know it will get better once I am able to move out.
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February 20, 2022 at 4:26 pm #67307Donna AndersenKeymaster
snownfire – It is good that your mother is starting to see what is going on. It is very difficult when someone is married to a sociopath and still has young children. You might want to encourage your mother to read the articles on Lovefraud under “sociopath and family.”
I’ve heard from plenty of women who felt they should stay in the abusive relationship because it would be better for the kids. I’ve never heard from anyone who later said it was a good decision, and many have said they should have left.
It’s very complicated. Your mother should certainly educate herself.
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February 20, 2022 at 7:56 pm #67316Jan7Participant
Hi Donna, pls look up the following:
On brand new tube site search for:
1) Reiner fuellmich Grand Jury Day 1 (also on Odysee)
2) Meredith Miller | GrandJury Day 4 – Feb 19, 2022
(you can also watch vids Day 2 & Day 3)
Dr Reiner fullmich and a International team of 1000 lawyers & 10,000 Doctors, scientist, experts have started a Grand Jury proceedings for CRIMES AGANST HUMANITY for these experimental vx being pushed by the world governments. This Grand jury proceeding is against Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab, WHO director and others (it’s explained in Day 1 vid)
Day 4 vid is about the psychological abuse to manipulate citizens into believing the corrupt world wide governments narative to go along with their evil Great reset agenda (look up this agenda)
Dr Reiner & team have a site cant remember the name but, all the vids are also posted there. The first vid is shocking. The Day 4 vid will show that these govt officals & media are using the same evil mind control tactics to control citizens world wide exactly like narcissist/sociopath/psychoapth use to keep victims under control. (because these leaders ARE PSYCHOPATHS.
see also: MAMM. org, Rumble stew peters, Stop world control, Hugo talks, US Freedom flyers, you tube chanS: Melbourne ground, melbourne detective, Tim truth, tim truth group discovery, The healthy american peggy hall = more informative vids of what is happening in the world = world wide take over pushing world into one government. And look for the live vids on you tube “Canada trucker convoy 2022” including yt ch Ottawa walk. The main stream media is lying about this massive protest calling the protestors “violent”etc…which is a lie..they have remained peaceful the entire time that was their strategy from day one.
do a search for “Hugo talks Klaus Schwab’ = this is the evil founder of World economic forum = he controls all these world leaders including Prime Minister of Canada, Putin, Merkel, French president etc (see hugo talks latest vid). Klaus is a pure evil psychopaths on a level like the world has never seen. He is also a rothschild.
Hope all is well, Take care. 🌺
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February 25, 2022 at 10:58 pm #67336snownfireParticipant
Donna Anderson
Thank you for directing me to the sociopath and family articles. I may share a few with her. I have heard of similar situations where the kids were angry at their mother for not leaving sooner. In the moment, the children do not understand how much stress, pain, damage, and abuse the mother is protecting them from in making the decision but later down the road, they will hopefully look back and see that it was the healthiest, wisest decision.My mom is taking three months to educate herself, make a plan, and gain some outside support. She’s an incredibly strong woman; I know she can do this!
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February 20, 2022 at 8:00 pm #67317Jan7Participant
Hi Snowfire, I appoligize for posting a message to Donna on your post. I have no idea how to create a new feed.
Lovefraud is a wonderful site. Donna has all your answers on her site. Read everything..epecially if you are crying or sad..come to lovefraud and read, read, read and post questions & vent = this is part of the healing process.
Wishing you all the best. take care. 💜💜
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February 20, 2022 at 8:52 pm #67318Jan7Participant
Hi Snowfire, for your mother…have her look up Adrenal fatigue symptoms most victims of abuse have adrenal fatigue. She most likely exhausted emotionally, mentally & physically from her abuser mental mind games.
She also needs help to open her mind up from the brain washing her abuser is doing to her daily plus she might be at the age of peri menopause or menopause where her hormonals are naturally changing and this can cause additional brain fog & depression. see sites Dr Lam. com and Adrneal fatigue. org (these helped me when I escaped my ex & my new doctors told me I was suffering from adrenal fatigue)
My advice is to show her Donna’s site here (lovefruad) and ask your mother questions. One at a time but, dont expect an answer and dont demand an answer just plant seeds to open your mothers mind up from his brain washing. This is what cult experts do for those that are in cults. Domestic abusers are cult leaders and their victims are cult followers.
DONT aruge with your mother ever about her abuser or the abuse she is enduring = this will just bond her more to her abuser. Instead lift your mother up emotionally. Tell her she is doing a good job with your silblings and tell her if she does a task like cleaning the house etc that she is doing a great job.
Abuse victims feel like they can not do anything right because that is what the abuser tells them. So lift your mothers spirit up. Send her a card in the mail with kind words (not about her abuse) just life her spirit up. Buy her flowers or a shirt (say I was thinking about you and thought you would like this). If you dont have the money then just write a note and hand it to her. Nothing about her situation just show her love. This will help her to know that she has a safe place and a support network outside of her home. Very important for abuse victims to know this.
Also, show your mother the National Domestic Violence hotlie website and sit with her and read up on “What is emotional abuse” show her their hotline number. But, dont push to go just tell her they have free counseling if she ever wants to go. NEVER pusher to do anything…her abuser pushs her boundaries daily so you dont want to do that…you have to guide her gently but, never pusher.
Wishing you & your mother all the best. take care.
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February 21, 2022 at 5:46 pm #67321Donna AndersenKeymaster
Hi Jan- thanks for the info. I am familiar with some of it.
To start a new topic, just go to the front page of the forum and scroll down. There are instructions.
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February 26, 2022 at 8:46 pm #67338polestarParticipant
Hi snownfire – I am glad that both you and your Mom know that the healthiest thing to do is to be in a safe environment and are in agreement that it will entail living elsewhere. It also sounds like the two of you have a good supportive relationship which is so beneficial. Be sure to let her know about your exhaustion level so that you don’t overextend yourself physically, psychologically or emotionally. Learn to be on the receiving end and allow others to help you too. It seems that you will be moving out so do everything you can to save up the energy that you will need to do so. I know this is a difficult time with so much transitions to go through, but you will get through it and in the end will feel much better in all ways.
Blessings
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