The Call – December 12, 1987
I came home in the late afternoon one day and put the news on before going to work. We had a sunken living room and I was standing in the middle of the room when I saw the report. I had been watching the news very closely lately (with good reason). I was looking for news about a recent murder”¦but I wasn’t ready for this. It was one of the local news stations. I immediately recognized the artist sketch of the suspected murderer. It was my father.
They had just identified the body of a missing woman and they described the suspect. They had found her body three days earlier, in the same field where two bodies were found just days before. My father was responsible for them too”¦and I knew it.
As I watched the TV they described the suspect. His “hanging jowels, blond hair, age” and then, the kicker”¦he “used an inhaler and was driving a Cadillac.” That was my Dad alright. He had been very busy. He was paroled in April of 1987 and this was only December. One missing and three dead. Only this one was different. This was an innocent woman. They were all innocent, but this one”¦wasn’t involved with my father in any way. That is, until she put an ad in the paper to sell Diamonds.
I watched the story and felt faint. I didn’t know what to do. I paced as my mind started racing. What the hell had he done? Could I have stopped this? What do I do now? I felt like I was on a runaway train that I could not stop.
I drank. That was the only solution I could come up with. I had several beers and called work. They wanted to know why I had to miss work. I told them it was serious, very serious, but I couldn’t tell them why. They didn’t understand, but I didn’t care. I never went back to work there again.
It seemed obvious to me that it was John Bruce Vining (on the news). I thought everyone would be looking for him and that anyone who had seen that report would pick him out immediately. Maybe it was so obvious to me because of what I knew.
Suddenly, it all became clear to me. Unfortunately, it was crystal clear. He had visited me days earlier and said that he was back to being “Dr Jekyll” again. He said he had been “Mr. Hyde” the day before and he was feeling good about it. He was headed to Miami to cash something in. He put his foot on the bumper of the car, raised his head back and laughed. He was feeling very good about himself and he couldn’t hide it. He loved that he could be “Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde”. That was his edge. Nobody would suspect a nice “old fart” like him of anything. That’s what he said about the little stuff he did, but this is where he really believed it. He was excited. He also left me the black Cadillac.
The car smelled awful. It had an indescribable sick odor that had been covered up with Brut cologne. He said Ethel (the dog) had a terrible accident and that he had to rip out the carpet and cover up the smell with cologne. That smell stuck with me, but it would be awhile before I put two and two together. I drove that car for several days. Years later I realized that the smell was that off a dead body. I think I knew deep down at the time but I couldn’t handle it so I dismissed the thought, quickly. These things were happening so fast and I apparently wasn’t ready to deal with it. That’s the only way I can explain it today.
Well, after drinking for a while I finally got enough nerve to call him. I paced and paced until I was finally able to pick up the phone. It felt like it weighed a thousand pounds. I thought by telling him what I saw on the news, he would run. I wanted him to run. I asked him to go. I wanted him gone. He asked if I would meet him at a bar in Apopka. I did. It was a hole in the wall. He was wearing jeans, a white T-Shirt and his brown leather jacket.
We talked and had a beer. He told me to calm down and not to worry. He was very bothered that I was so unnerved confronting him with this. I could sense the disgust in him over my inability to be calm about this. It was as if I was letting him down. He asked me specifically what I saw that would make someone believe it was him. I don’t think I ever asked him if he did it, it was just understood. He was concerned, but calm. He was very calculating in his thinking. He simply told me not worry, said “I was overreacting” and we walked outside and switched cars back.
I’ll never forget the drive home that night. What was I doing in this world and why was this all happening I kept asking myself. It seemed to me that I was supposed to be able to go to my father for help in life, but he was the bad guy. My father was the boogeyman I had always feared as a little kid. I didn’t know anybody in the world that I thought could help me.
I got home and sat in the kitchen by myself, my mind racing out of control. I thought and thought and thought. I cried and felt sick. Drinking wasn’t enough to drown this out, and I knew it. I called Crimeline Tips and gave them my fathers name in connection with her murder. I was scared, panicked and didn’t know what else to do. After the call I cried not knowing if I did the right thing because he was my father. Trying to understand that my father was the bad guy was very difficult to wrap my mind around. In fact, even after this experience I would continue to have problems with this. It doesn’t make sense, but that was my experience. For now though, I believed it was only a matter of time before they picked him up. I was wrong.
He would remain free for another seven months before finally being arrested in Savannah, Georgia for another crime (kidnapping & attempted murder). That runaway train wasn’t going anywhere for a while. And I was along for the ride.
It’s impossible to explain how I felt that night and what I felt when in his presence after calling Crimeline. I tried not to think about what he would do to me if he knew. Part of me still wanted to believe that he was my father and the unthinkable was not possible. Deep down I knew the truth. It was about survival. Now I was conning him. Trying to remain cool so he would believe that I was OK with what he was doing. Like it was no big deal.
I repressed many of these memories for years but did move on after my father was arrested. It was about four years ago that I finally came to understand all of this, or at least started to understand it. I am still learning about it.
The first step was accepting that my father was a sociopath, a man without a conscience. Being able to label it and find other people with similar experiences has truly been a blessing. I hope these experiences will help others to better understand these characteristics and help society to begin to look more closely at this disorder.
or maybe it’s because it is a lie, sky. not everybody lies, and not everybody tells lies that a spath would tell, or an n.
OneJoy,
I know that not everybody lies, but I see the key component of this personality disorder as envy and a desire to hurt someone because of that envy and then hiding the fact by pretending the opposite is true.
That is something that just slipped right past me. I couldn’t really grasp it. I’m sure I had seen it in movies or read about it, perhaps even experienced it, but never really grasped the enormity of the hatred experienced by the hater. When I did, it was like a punch in the gut. Shocking.
How is it that other people know about this and they are OK with it, but I find it so frighteningly disturbing?
who is ‘okay’ with it?
people who have only a theoretical idea of it?
My spath sister said, “everybody is evil, you’re evil, I’m evil.”
Granted she doesn’t get it, but my parents, get it. They know what spath did to me. So why don’t they do everything in their power to remove their evil kids from their lives?
My BF, had an evil mom. He knows this but he took care of her while she was dying. My spath believes he is actually an evil demon. He likes it. Other people who know he was planning to kill me, were not only ok with it but participated.
Oxy’s son C, knew that her egg donor and the spath were plotting to drive her crazy. But he said nothing. He was OK with it.
So maybe they don’t have more than a theoretical idea of it, but neither did I at 4 years old, but I knew to be afraid of it.
I guess that’s what I mean, why aren’t these people afraid of evil while I have understood its dangers all my life?
Sky,
I’ve heard that too before. I often wonder though, while having heard it if they know that what they’re doing is wrong, but just justifying it with the “Everbody is” this or that stuff.
I think with that level of denial required to be a spath or those who don’t understand it for what it is, put it into common terms in the form of generalities. They are the always, never, everybody people. Justifying it with their skewed perceptions of reality and projection in that “everybody” does it, makes it okay in their twisted minds.
LL
It is disturbing to me that my son C knew what was being done to me by the Trojan horse P and my X-DIL, and my egg donor, and my P son, and C did not warn me…when I asked him about it later, why he didn’t DO something when he found out the TH-P was farking around with my cell phone account and running up the bill to 100s of dollars, etc. he said “Wellllll, I told him he shouldn’t do that.” (Excuse me while I PUKE!) When you (that is the universal “you”) are aware of evil and you do NOTHING, you are part and parcel of the evil. If you observe someone beating or raping someone and you don’t at least call the cops, (if you are not able to physically stop the attack) I think you are just as guilty as the perp.
The story in the Bible about the traveler on the road who was beaten, injured and lying in a ditch and several “upright” citizens passed by the man, even walking on the other side of the road so as not to come too close to him, but a Smaritian (a lower class Jewish person) who was looked down on by the “upright” citizens of Jerusalem stopped, bound up the man’s wounds, took him to an inn, left money for his continued care and was compassionate to the wounded and injured man, where the “upright” citizens did NOTHING for the injured man.
When my son C lied to me last year, I realized that he had not truly had compassion for me, or respect for me in any way, but was willing to stand by while I was “injured” and DO NOTHING for me, to stand by and watch while others actively drove me from my home like a scape goat into the wilderness. He isn’t a psychopath, but he isn’t the kind of man I want for a friend, much less a son. I can’t trust him. I don’t hate him, but I don’t trust him. I don’t want to be around him.
I don’t completely comprehend why C is the way he is, why he makes the choices he does. I don’t think he is a psychopath, but he isn’t the empathetic and kind man I wish my son was, that I would like my son to be, but I can’t control what he is or what he thinks. He is an adult and he is responsible for himself now. I am responsible for myself and my choice is to keep him at “arm’s length” from my life.
LL,
thats the thing. knowing something is wrong and feeling it are 2 different things. some people think wrong and right are just social constructs. They feel no connection either way, unless the hurt is on them.
Oxy, that is one thing you and I have in common, we both come from a long line of spath family members.
I’m not sure I’m stating my question correctly. It’s more like, why am I more horrified, or empathetic when I see someone getting hurt, than all those people who would just walk by. My BF says he has compassion fatigue. I told him you have to have compassion first before it can fatigue you. He replied, “I had compassion” I asked “when was that?” His response, “when I was six” LOL. He was being flippant, we both were, but I’m not sure he wasn’t mostly telling the truth. I’m no longer afraid of being hurt by spaths like I was, because I know the red flags and I also understand how spaths think.
What I don’t get, is the “normal” people. If you aren’t a vampire, how can you get off watching vampires suck others dry? My BF said, that maybe it’s like driving by a car accident. You crane your neck and look because, deep down, we know there is a law of averages. If it happened to someone else, there’s less chance it will happen to you. I can see people talking like that here on LF, when they are relieved that the spath goes on to the next victim because they are finally free and hope he won’t come back. We are just battle weary.
That’s kind of what happened in the neighborhood I used to live in. We had a water association with a board of directors. There was a woman, Alice, who was controlling the whole thing for 12 years. Every once in a while she would pick on someone to threaten with a lawsuit. We all kind of felt relieved when it wasn’t us. I finally got on the board and ousted the bitch. I uncovered all the mismanagement and irresponsible behavior in front of the entire community and she resigned. took me 3 years of back spathing but I felt great. But little did I know that the rest of the board members (whom I personally recruited) were on my spaths list of buddies that were planning to see me commit suicide. What a fiasco. Then I resigned, it was too hard to fight the spath and the spathettes at the same time. It has left me battle weary.
I got off the point, I think. I’m just wondering what made me unaware of how dangerous people’s envy is. how could I have been unable to see that other people didn’t want the best for me. What made me blind to it? There are lots of people who have not studied sociopathy and they don’t get targetted by spaths. What makes us different? Can spaths see that we are more empathetic and will fall for their pity ploy? But if we have compassion fatigue they will have to find another hook and that’s a more difficult con job?
hey sky – when do you have your therapy appt.?
hi One,
Thursday at noon. It’s an intake appt where they just evaluate their ability to help me.
It’s with Catholic Community services. There is one Psychologist that monitors several therapists in training.
It is a sliding scale fee so that’s the only reason I can afford it.
If it helps it will be the first thing the Catholic Church has ever done to help me! LOL.
Sky, my entire family is spaths. Did you not read that?
I think it probably goes back generations. I’d like to study it. For sure, my grandmother was as spath as anyone could be. Her mother as well.
She was a horrible, awful, mean little bitch who abused and ruled her three children. One who is dead from the anxiety she put upon her her entire life. Then there was my father, whom she knew was sensitive so she kicked the Fucking SHIT out of him his entire childhood, yes this was verified
By the time the youngest came along (an accident) my spath grandmother was too fucking tired to do anything but spoil his rotten ass.
I loved my uncle And I know he knew something was wrong and that I loved him, as I know his wife knew….but as they grew older and had children of their own (my uncle was a major CEO of what is now QWEST communications, but now retired), and got into serious “money” they became jaded………..then downright abusive and greedy…it wasn’t until I was older that I saw something wrong with my aunt and uncle….they were trying to bribe me, suck me in, so they could get the ring off of my finger that was given to me by my Spathdaddy (to piss off his neice of course), after my grandmother died…the 50th anniversary “wedding” ring. WELL WHO GIVES A FUCK!!
well, apparently poor Megs did. She was so so so upset!
I took that fucker and SOLD it to a pawn shop
I told that to my aunt…(after they manipulated me and called me to tell me they had a “dresser” for me that they wanted me to have-bullshit, when they knew the ring was gone, they never showedu p with said dresser), and she completely freaked out on me………..gasping for air, “LL, you know what that ring meant, I can’t believe how abusive you are, I can’t believe you’d say that to me”
FUCK YOU Auntie……………..it isn’t about me and it never was.
Not for my uncle either. They learned well. It was about the money, bribery and sucking someone in for ONLY those purposes
Money doesn’t mean SHIT to me now. It’s been used against me my ENTIRE life and did NOTHIGN for me……….
But it’s really important right?
Shut down…………………
Can you say PISSED OFF?
This is my family. Gosh, I’m proud 🙂
LL