Editor’s note: Diane Dawber is a founder of the Health Pursuits Reading Group. A Lovefraud reader suggested the following contribution on alternative health strategies. Please remember that Lovefraud is not a medical resource, and if you are suffering from symptoms like those discussed below you should consult a doctor.
Adrenals and PTSD
By Diane Dawber
In 1996, a small group of mostly professionals, felled too early by chronic illnesses such as Fibromyalgia (FM), Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS), Multiple Chemical Sensitivities (MCS), asthma, arthritis, etc., started studying together to see what they could do for themselves since the medical system did not have much to offer. With books recommended by the few doctors who were studying nutrition, environment, diet, etc., they read, tried out the strategies, discussed results and compiled data.
After spending a million dollars on diets, supplements, therapies, etc, they have narrowed down to some strategies that are cost, time and results effective. All the original members, as well as many others, are using these strategies and they are so much better than they were 15 years ago, despite all being in their sixties. The group is now incorporated as a Canadian not-for-profit, Health Pursuits Reading and Research: MEND. The goal is to help as many people as they can, despite no funding other than memberships. Diseases receive funding. Political action receives funding. Getting well doesn’t rate.
Background
I myself was the worst case of FM my Toronto doctor had ever seen. After 25 years as a teacher, in 1990 I was disabled and totally unable to be active in my career. I was in terrible pain 24/7. I could check my email once a week with difficulty. I could lift only a pound without repercussions. I couldn’t sit or stand or walk for 5 minutes without worse pain. Plus, I have contradictory reactions to opiates like codeine. I was so chemically sensitive that I couldn’t read a newspaper or go downtown without headache and nausea from fumes. I thought my life was over.
The worst thing was that doctors took one look at my file and saw that my mother had committed suicide when I was 8, and a string of other unpleasant events through the rest of my life. My illness must be psychological. Just didn’t want to work. The hypnotherapy doctor told me that I was just showing off when I got a Masters degree. You can read the horror story in my book, Lifting the Bull (Quarry Press, 1999), which I assembled page by painful page as the reading group and I explored the alternate medical universe.
In 1995, I started working with Dr. Kathleen Kerr and Dr. Lynn Marshall at the Environmental Health Clinic in Toronto. Dr. Kerr recommended books on nutrition, diet and environmental clean-up. We learned of other books from the few similar doctors. I got rid of chemicals and mold. I did the IgG allergy testing and changed my diet to eliminate problem foods. I had blood testing to identify some deficiencies. I had osteopathic treatment for biomechanical problems.
Now I’m 65 and today I cleaned up the house, did errands, went to my exercise class, made a big batch of soup, walked for an hour, worked in the garden, did emails and other writing all without pain or fatigue.
Adrenal function
One particular nutritional area of study has proven most useful. That is adrenal function. Adrenals mediate allergic/stress responses, in other words, PTSD. When a situation provokes an adrenaline response, blood vessels narrow, blood pressure goes up, rational thought is suppressed in favour of ‘flight or fight,’ glucose dumps into the blood stream driving up blood sugar, fluids are lost, digestion either stops or empties you get the picture. This is not a good state in which to make decisions about anything from what to eat to what do with your future.
Adrenaline spikes, you get a buzz, and then what? Adrenaline must be processed by our bodies. Then the adrenals need to make more. After many such episodes, the nutrients the adrenals require to function may become deficient so they cannot respond as well. Then when an incident provokes an adrenaline response, you become extremely fatigued and have lots of other symptoms. Uzzi Reiss’ book, The Natural Superwoman, has a good chapter on adrenaline, explaining different stages of adrenal wear and tear. (Research cortisol as well.)
Supplements
The biochemical elements that are used in processing adrenaline are being studied. Many years ago, Dr. Jonathon Wright wrote a newsletter on adrenals in which he stated that B5, B6, magnesium and salt were nutritional supports for adrenal glands. There is also a supplement made from the actual ground-up adrenal material from ovine, bovine or porcine sources. In our group, we discovered the work of Dr. Lendon Smith and Dr. John Kitkowsky, in Lendon Smith’s book, Feed Your Body Right. Their olfactory test has proven to be a useful tool in figuring out what nutrients we need and how much; and monitoring the balance. We found, using the olfactory test, that we are very individual in our supplement needs. Our research in this area is on-going.
Myself, I had been taking 1000 mg of pantothenic acid (B5,) 700 mg of magnesium, 120 mg of the special B6 (pyridoxal 5 phosphate or P5P) as well as one of the ground-up adrenals supplements daily. I found that I was not having the overwhelmed, hitting-bottom feeling that signals much stressed adrenals, but I wasn’t feeling very perky either. With 500 mg more of B5 and 50 mg more of P5P, things improved dramatically. Using our nutrient test kit, I checked to make sure this was not driving something else down and sure enough riboflavin, B2, also needed an increase. Since doing these things, I no longer need the ‘ground-up adrenal’ supplement, which pleases me as it indicates that I am coming closer to healing my adrenals. I also notice more tolerance of all the different types of stressors as you will see enumerated below.
Stressors
One stressor for me, which no one picked up until just two months ago, was my ribs. My 11th and 12th ribs on the left were jammed up under my 10th rib. This was probably caused by a childhood fall. I was a free-range child with my mother very ill and then gone, so I had some nasty falls on my back from a hay loft, on my chest when my sister and I were playing cowboys and she tied me up and another on my middle when standing on a large log that rolled. The effect on my digestive, respiratory and adrenal system of having these ribs poking my innards can only be guessed. Fortunately, my osteopath finally was able to figure it out and release them. I’m now having the fun of stretching out very old scar tissue.
Members of Health Pursuits Reading and Research would define stress on a wider basis than most:
- Air-borne exposures such as chemicals, molds, pollens and danders;
- Water-borne exposures such as bacteria, chemicals, hormones, lead, asbestos, chlorine, fluride and varying mineral content;
- Food reactions including IgE (anaphylactic symptoms) and IgG sensitivities (non-anaphylactic, inflammatory symptoms such as fatigue, brain fog, muscle pain), and inability to digest some foods such as gluten (wheat family grains) or casein (dairy products);
- Deficiencies of crucial nutrients whether macronutrients such as protein or essential fatty acids or micronutrients such as vitamin D, vitamin C, B vitamins or minerals;
- Movement difficulties such as poorly-integrated reflexes, scars from surgeries, injuries or birth trauma, genetic malformations, as well as
- Life events or situations (which are more commonly viewed as stress).
When you add in the natural hormonal variations of the female body, especially as it approaches big changes like pregnancy or menopause, then you can see this is a big complicated task to manage.
One story
A member of Health Pursuits Reading and Research did a brilliant thing recently. She has PTSD (from abuse) and was having anxiety attacks lasting 5 hours or more. She decided to try our nutrient test kit at the beginning of an anxiety attack to see what nutrients would become deficient. She did this and took the items indicated. The anxiety attack was gone in about half an hour. She has repeated this strategy in order to hone in on her specific requirements when anxiety does attack. A complication is that different combinations of stressors can trigger the anxiety attacks.
This member had a long history of relational trauma from first family to later partners and an equally long history of psychological therapies to deal with these. Like so many members of our group, she did not begin to realize the effect of other factors until she joined us four years ago. At that point, she began by using our nutrient test kit to monitor, at first almost daily, her nutrient requirements. She also started to investigate her food sensitivities, finding a big difference in the effect of some foods, e.g., she is quite sensitive to poison ivy, and foods like cashews and mango, which are related, cause trouble. Gluten and dairy were also found to be problematic. Then there was the damp, moldy basement of her home. A death in the family, the realization that her home was not a safe place for her and possibly stress from sudden release of stored toxins with the improvement of nutrition all caused a temporary slide into dysfunction. From a women’s shelter, she was still able to arrange to sell her home, buy another one and move within a few months.
Once in a non-moldy home, other stressors revealed themselves. Hormones were out of balance, so testing and supplementation of estrogen and progesterone with bioidenticals were a relief. Paint, renovation materials, traffic fumes, oil furnace fumes all caused reactions anxiety reactions, which she was at first unused to relating to chemicals. Through it all, she maintained her nutritional program, adjusting it as she (and we) learned more. She tried to deal with the dietary issues too. These are difficult because reactions to chemicals and other stressors can make food cravings worse. I myself become very hungry when exposed to petrochemicals as at a gas station. Then she did the experiment with the anxiety attacks.
Now she is back in her circle of family and friends, has a stable relationship, runs her own business, works out with a friend, and walks and plays with her new puppy all of which continue to pump in the positive neurochemicals that help her keep well. She is a fan of movies with humor and fun as well to keep her spirits up. She is quick to cancel events that are overload items and to use groups like Weight Watchers, Al-Anon, as well as help-phone lines to bridge the gap as the nutrients take time to heal the basic problems.
More information
To work through the issues, you can go to our web site www.healthpursuitsgroup.com, the content of which is our whole basic workbook. For more detailed help, you can then go to our blog at http://ddawberblog.wordpress.com. That is what we can supply for free. Hard copies of our book on diet are available for $20 and our whole test kit costs $185 (which a group of people could share since it is reusable for at least 2 years as many times as wished.)
When the dominos fall, prying up just one is difficult and will not make it easier to lift the others. Action on as many dominos as possible is necessary. Awareness of the possibilities, observation and patience in trying strategies will help you succeed.
I am not a health nut but I do take vitamins, eat well, and I cook for myself. I grow a few veggies, and visit farmers market often.
Dupey.. I lost around 25 lbs,, during and after the relationship from hell, all due to stress and lack of sleep and depression. I am 5′ 11” and my normal weight is 180…I was down to 155 and looked like death. My weight loss is what got my son’s attention and he gave me a lecture that kinda woke me up and pushed me to start taking better care of myself. I am back up to 180lbs.. I also had horrible back and hip problems that have healed with the weight gain.. But I remember feeling like I had dementia, my brain just didnt function, doing simple task was overwhelming….I guess it was all stress and ptsd related…anyway he almost killed me, I think it was his plan,,, but it didnt work,,,I am fat and sassy again ~!!!
Hens ~ I’ve never been a health nut either, but I try to eat healthy. Gee, I haven’t experienced ANY weight loss, in fact it’s exactly the opposite for me. I’m a comfort eater, I guess.
Still trying to work up the gumption to get off my duff and get this bod back into some semblance of decent physical shape. ho hum…
Hi Hope.. I am one of those lucky people that can eat a whole carrot cake and half gallon of icecream and never gain a pound.. I do love to eat.. My cholestrol is good…
I am very active tho. I need to join a gym just for the eye candy…~!
🙂 hens, you are cute: ‘eye candy’! 😉
No, I don’t take extra supplements but try to maintain my diet in a healthy way. I am a sweets kind of person and always am forcing myself away from them.
It’s weird because when NC started 3 months ago, (on monday!), I couldn’t hardly eat at all. I was slowly starving myself and IT saw what it was doing to me. It has no conscious. If I had died right then and there, it wouldn’t have mattered. I was the weak and being eaten. I wasn’t about to let that happen. It took more than a lot from me but it didn’t and isn’t going to take my life for it’s sickness.
H2H: (((hugs))) Hope you and you too, hens, are well and doing alright. I am starting to do well. I have been doing lots of EMDR therapy in the past couple weeks and it is helping me. Since I was formally ‘retired’ due to my medical condition, I spend a lot of time just eating, resting, reading and learning as much as I can. I get LOTS of exercise and try to stay in as good shape as I CAN for 60 years old! Zeesh: this should be ALMOST considered ‘elder abuse’ at this stage of life. 🙂
After almost 9 months since heart attack, I can FINALLY start taking something to relieve aches and pains!!! Imagine that. I was forbidden to take ANYTHING other than heart meds until now so even an extra aspirin was out of the question.
I wouldn’t have survived if I hadn’t of cut it off and NC’d it when I did. I can truthfully tell you this. IT would have killed me (on more than one occasion-I was so in denial…)
And it would laugh and mock me and say: “hahaha: what are you talking about? all the bad things i have done to you, you sat there and allowed it to happen, so what is wrong with YOU?!” hahahaha – yes, it came to THAT ‘chilling’ realization. Then when I had my heart attack, I came to believe that yes, IT in more ways than one, tried to take my life from me.
THAT USED TO BE MY BEST FRIEND.
CAN I be cruel to my best friend? Hmm? IT is HOPING I can’t. IT is hoping I won’t. And, “I” say: I am not giving up one more moment of my lifetime for anymore of this. Once I am out of my ‘mania’, I am closing this door in my life, forever and never looking back. I have almost come to the point where I can say: “WHO?” THAT is how well I have been reconditioning my wires. 🙂 It takes time. It is a process, not an event.
Take care you guys – oh, almost forgot…
My private cell phone number was called tonight and it should never ring. I traced the phone number and know right where it came from although I do not know the party who called. 🙂
The stalking begins….
Let’s see if it escalates over the weekend… hmmm?
Just like “Hannibal”…
Duh duh duh Super Dupey Dupedster
Hens ~ I have never had a very high metabolism, although I’ve heard that it’s something that can change. I used to have physically active jobs. That helped a LOT. Then I got a “real” job behind a desk. Much better bennies, but talk about LOW activity.
My fingers stayed in GREAT shape with all the data entry I was doing lol.
Duh duh duh Super Dupey Dupedster ~ HUGS right back atcha!! You are one amazing woman!!! Keep up the NC and you will be victorious!!!
h2h
DUPED:
Oh, no…I hope it wasn’t him.
Aloong with the PTSD (sudden event) when my husband died, I got mega stress, because for the previous year I had also been primary carer for my stepfather as well who was dying with cancer. My health was the least of my concerns.But during that time I had three major infections that were life threatening. Immune system knocked out by continual stress as well as the loss of the two people closest to me in my life.
Three years after the deaths of both my husband and my step dad, in 2007, the SUMMER OF CHAOS fell upon me and I fled my home for my own safety. That summer I got another serious infection from a tick bite and was very very ill that summer.
A couple of years ago I started to seriously work on my own health. First, I quit smoking which I had done for many decades. Put them down, made a vow and have stuck with it. I also realized I had gained a considerable amount of weight which was causxing my blood sugar to go u and causing my blood pressure to rise, so aM not on a low sodium and lower calorie died. I’ve lost 30+ pounds but now have plateaued and need to get back on the wagon and lose another 30.
My exercise has bee a part of the weight loss as well….eating fruits and vegetables, no salt (Had to learn a different way of cooking and give up processed meats: ham bacon, hot dogs, and cheese) but am learning to have all the rest of the things I love without salt and they still taste good.
I keep my sodium to the recommended below 1500 mg per day, and usually lower. The swelling in my feet has resolved without medication.
I keep my calories between 1500-1800 per day, my blood sugar does not move out of the “normal” range.
I take a multivitamin
four 1,000 mg fish oil capsules
coated Aisprin for pain
B6 for my carpal tunnel syndrome (it is good for nerve conduction)
A complete B_complex as my blood lab showed I was low in B vitamins
I don’t take calcium as my bones are strong and I do eat considerable dairy products
1 eat one ounce of Almonds per day
1 eat one ounce of flax seed per day as well
6-8 servings of vegetables and fruits
Oat or corn flours or meal
Prunes and raisins
4-8 ounces of grass fed LOW FAT organic beef I raise myself and process myself
My blood pressure is normal now, without medication, my blood sugar is normal now, again without medication, and I am sleeping better, and feeling better both mentally and physically.
IN addition to taking care of my nutritional needs, taking care of my emotional needs is as important I think. “Cleaning house” of all the “dirt” (dysfunctional people”) and sweeping them out the door leave my house with enough room for PEACE to move in and stay.
Louise: I have changed my cellphone number AT LEAST six times in the past four months. IT doesn’t have it and IT can’t call my HOME or my cell. So, IT has others call me. I get calls like this from all over the place. Every time a number comes in that I don’t know or don’t recognize, I just block it now. I have a lot of security in order to reach me by phone or in person. That is why I am always suspect when I am contacted like this.
It’s just another way of IT keeping the pot stirred.
That’s all there is to that. It’s alright. You guys should see the logs and logs and logs. I have chronicled everything that transpired between us from the very beginning. I have so much legal evidence against IT I could put it away for a very long time and the saddest and most disgusting part of all this is I have never asked IT for a thing except to live ITS life the right way and to make those changes and IT just doesn’t think there is anything wrong with IT. Although it will openly ADMIT it to me, and has, many times, I see now that was only more gaslighting and love bombing.
Aw, shucks, H2H: “amazing woman”!? 🙂 mwah! xx thanks but I don’t feel I deserve all THAT. I may have to put away something that used to be my best friend. Quite the paradox. Sometimes consuming paradox. But where do you draw the line? For me, I draw the line at personal safety and threats against my life. That is where I draw the line. If it happens once, it will continue happening and I am never going to give up my life for someone who is trying to suck it from me.
I will voluntarily lay down my life or put it at risk but NOBODY takes that or tries to take that away from me because it is MY LIFE and not theirs.
I don’t care if it was him but chances are probably 100% that it was associated with him. It’s always associated with IT somehow. I don’t live my life in drama and chaos. I live a single life; solitary and there is no reason anyone should be butting into my privacy like this other than “IT”. It always has something to do with it.
I can’t WAIT to see if it steps up over the next few days. I would almost be able to set my clock by it. Seriously. I know the patterns. “I” am capable of breaking patterns, IT is not. It can be quite predictable in some ways; other ways – I would trust “IT” about as much as I would a 7ft rattlesnake!
Thanks you guys for your support. We’ll make it through all this. We will. THEY know it too and they resent it. I believe that’s true. Just ‘making it’ through all this makes them jealous because they don’t know or understand where that strength and fortitude comes from. They are small little people, with no soul and no direction – sort of like drowning souls frantically trying to cling to something so they don’t go under. Their ‘ugly’ persona’s come from the frustration of their inability to act and think and feel like we do. They hate anything or anyone that reminds them of how empty their souls truly are. They don’t realize they can change who they are or they do but don’t want to endure the hardship of changing. To them it’s easier to just suck what they can and make it theirs, instead of living their own lives, they are like plankton, attaching themselves to our lives to suck us dry.
It’s alright; I am ready for the 3 month onslaught of harassment. I am ready and stronger and now better able to deal with this – I say: ‘bring it on’! 😉
Dupey Dupedster
Thanks Ox for sharing what you did.
I am happy you are feeling better. I really DO think what we feed our bodies, during this high stress time, is important to consider. I am a poster child for what this can actually DO to your health and well being! 😉 I wish this upon NOBODY and the only way you can keep away from it is by being aware and sometimes forcing yourself to take care of yourself.
I am sorry Ox that things have been so rotten for you.
You have suffered greatly and I never understand why it’s always the good people who have to do the most suffering in this life when it’s them giving out the most good?!!!!
LOVE WHAT YOU SAID:
“IN addition to taking care of my nutritional needs, taking care of my emotional needs is as important I think. “Cleaning house” of all the “dirt” (dysfunctional people”) and sweeping them out the door leave my house with enough room for PEACE to move in and stay.” == so agreed: clean house of all the dirt and dysfunctional people!!! AMEN!!!!
I need to get myself on some fish oil!!!
***Hugs Ox***
Duped
Dupey – I get all kinds of calls on my cell, wrong number, tele marketeers etc….the guy that had my cell phone number before me was a very well liked man named Skeeter, dang he has alot of friends..I think the phone providers give out new numbers to quickly…maybe your hyper sensitive right now and the calls are not related to him. Just a thought.
For the longest time I thought every vehicle going down my gravel road was him or one of his cronies, everytime the dogs barked I was sure it was him, but it wasnt, it was just my hypervigilant over active paranoia…he has showed up a few times but when you dont answer the door they realize it’s a waste of their time..he has not been around in over a year now,,dont know if he is dead or alive…not knowing anything is better than knowing anything. I mean he has no reason to come back.. I wont let him f–k with my mind…