Editor’s note: Diane Dawber is a founder of the Health Pursuits Reading Group. A Lovefraud reader suggested the following contribution on alternative health strategies. Please remember that Lovefraud is not a medical resource, and if you are suffering from symptoms like those discussed below you should consult a doctor.
Adrenals and PTSD
By Diane Dawber
In 1996, a small group of mostly professionals, felled too early by chronic illnesses such as Fibromyalgia (FM), Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS), Multiple Chemical Sensitivities (MCS), asthma, arthritis, etc., started studying together to see what they could do for themselves since the medical system did not have much to offer. With books recommended by the few doctors who were studying nutrition, environment, diet, etc., they read, tried out the strategies, discussed results and compiled data.
After spending a million dollars on diets, supplements, therapies, etc, they have narrowed down to some strategies that are cost, time and results effective. All the original members, as well as many others, are using these strategies and they are so much better than they were 15 years ago, despite all being in their sixties. The group is now incorporated as a Canadian not-for-profit, Health Pursuits Reading and Research: MEND. The goal is to help as many people as they can, despite no funding other than memberships. Diseases receive funding. Political action receives funding. Getting well doesn’t rate.
Background
I myself was the worst case of FM my Toronto doctor had ever seen. After 25 years as a teacher, in 1990 I was disabled and totally unable to be active in my career. I was in terrible pain 24/7. I could check my email once a week with difficulty. I could lift only a pound without repercussions. I couldn’t sit or stand or walk for 5 minutes without worse pain. Plus, I have contradictory reactions to opiates like codeine. I was so chemically sensitive that I couldn’t read a newspaper or go downtown without headache and nausea from fumes. I thought my life was over.
The worst thing was that doctors took one look at my file and saw that my mother had committed suicide when I was 8, and a string of other unpleasant events through the rest of my life. My illness must be psychological. Just didn’t want to work. The hypnotherapy doctor told me that I was just showing off when I got a Masters degree. You can read the horror story in my book, Lifting the Bull (Quarry Press, 1999), which I assembled page by painful page as the reading group and I explored the alternate medical universe.
In 1995, I started working with Dr. Kathleen Kerr and Dr. Lynn Marshall at the Environmental Health Clinic in Toronto. Dr. Kerr recommended books on nutrition, diet and environmental clean-up. We learned of other books from the few similar doctors. I got rid of chemicals and mold. I did the IgG allergy testing and changed my diet to eliminate problem foods. I had blood testing to identify some deficiencies. I had osteopathic treatment for biomechanical problems.
Now I’m 65 and today I cleaned up the house, did errands, went to my exercise class, made a big batch of soup, walked for an hour, worked in the garden, did emails and other writing all without pain or fatigue.
Adrenal function
One particular nutritional area of study has proven most useful. That is adrenal function. Adrenals mediate allergic/stress responses, in other words, PTSD. When a situation provokes an adrenaline response, blood vessels narrow, blood pressure goes up, rational thought is suppressed in favour of ‘flight or fight,’ glucose dumps into the blood stream driving up blood sugar, fluids are lost, digestion either stops or empties you get the picture. This is not a good state in which to make decisions about anything from what to eat to what do with your future.
Adrenaline spikes, you get a buzz, and then what? Adrenaline must be processed by our bodies. Then the adrenals need to make more.  After many such episodes, the nutrients the adrenals require to function may become deficient so they cannot respond as well. Then when an incident provokes an adrenaline response, you become extremely fatigued and have lots of other symptoms. Uzzi Reiss’ book, The Natural Superwoman, has a good chapter on adrenaline, explaining different stages of adrenal wear and tear. (Research cortisol as well.)
Supplements
The biochemical elements that are used in processing adrenaline are being studied. Many years ago, Dr. Jonathon Wright wrote a newsletter on adrenals in which he stated that B5, B6, magnesium and salt were nutritional supports for adrenal glands. There is also a supplement made from the actual ground-up adrenal material from ovine, bovine or porcine sources.  In our group, we discovered the work of Dr. Lendon Smith and Dr. John Kitkowsky, in Lendon Smith’s book, Feed Your Body Right. Their olfactory test has proven to be a useful tool in figuring out what nutrients we need and how much; and monitoring the balance. We found, using the olfactory test, that we are very individual in our supplement needs. Our research in this area is on-going.
Myself, I had been taking 1000 mg of pantothenic acid (B5,) 700 mg of magnesium, 120 mg of the special B6 (pyridoxal 5 phosphate or P5P) as well as one of the ground-up adrenals supplements daily. I found that I was not having the overwhelmed, hitting-bottom feeling that signals much stressed adrenals, but I wasn’t feeling very perky either. With 500 mg more of B5 and 50 mg more of P5P, things improved dramatically. Using our nutrient test kit, I checked to make sure this was not driving something else down and sure enough riboflavin, B2, also needed an increase. Since doing these things, I no longer need the ‘ground-up adrenal’ supplement, which pleases me as it indicates that I am coming closer to healing my adrenals. I also notice more tolerance of all the different types of stressors as you will see enumerated below.
Stressors
One stressor for me, which no one picked up until just two months ago, was my ribs. My 11th and 12th ribs on the left were jammed up under my 10th rib. This was probably caused by a childhood fall. I was a free-range child with my mother very ill and then gone, so I had some nasty falls on my back from a hay loft, on my chest when my sister and I were playing cowboys and she tied me up and another on my middle when standing on a large log that rolled. The effect on my digestive, respiratory and adrenal system of having these ribs poking my innards can only be guessed. Fortunately, my osteopath finally was able to figure it out and release them. I’m now having the fun of stretching out very old scar tissue.
Members of Health Pursuits Reading and Research would define stress on a wider basis than most:
- Air-borne exposures such as chemicals, molds, pollens and danders;
- Water-borne exposures such as bacteria, chemicals, hormones, lead, asbestos, chlorine, fluride and varying mineral content;
- Food reactions including IgE (anaphylactic symptoms) and IgG sensitivities (non-anaphylactic, inflammatory symptoms such as fatigue, brain fog, muscle pain), and inability to digest some foods such as gluten (wheat family grains) or casein (dairy products);
- Deficiencies of crucial nutrients whether macronutrients such as protein or essential fatty acids or micronutrients such as vitamin D, vitamin C, B vitamins or minerals;
- Movement difficulties such as poorly-integrated reflexes, scars from surgeries, injuries or birth trauma, genetic malformations, as well as
- Life events or situations (which are more commonly viewed as stress).
When you add in the natural hormonal variations of the female body, especially as it approaches big changes like pregnancy or menopause, then you can see this is a big complicated task to manage.
One story
A member of Health Pursuits Reading and Research did a brilliant thing recently. She has PTSD (from abuse) and was having anxiety attacks lasting 5 hours or more. She decided to try our nutrient test kit at the beginning of an anxiety attack to see what nutrients would become deficient. She did this and took the items indicated. The anxiety attack was gone in about half an hour. She has repeated this strategy in order to hone in on her specific requirements when anxiety does attack. A complication is that different combinations of stressors can trigger the anxiety attacks.
This member had a long history of relational trauma from first family to later partners and an equally long history of psychological therapies to deal with these. Like so many members of our group, she did not begin to realize the effect of other factors until she joined us four years ago. At that point, she began by using our nutrient test kit to monitor, at first almost daily, her nutrient requirements.  She also started to investigate her food sensitivities, finding a big difference in the effect of some foods, e.g., she is quite sensitive to poison ivy, and foods like cashews and mango, which are related, cause trouble. Gluten and dairy were also found to be problematic. Then there was the damp, moldy basement of her home. A death in the family, the realization that her home was not a safe place for her and possibly stress from sudden release of stored toxins with the improvement of nutrition all caused a temporary slide into dysfunction. From a women’s shelter, she was still able to arrange to sell her home, buy another one and move within a few months.
Once in a non-moldy home, other stressors revealed themselves. Hormones were out of balance, so testing and supplementation of estrogen and progesterone with bioidenticals were a relief. Paint, renovation materials, traffic fumes, oil furnace fumes all caused reactions anxiety reactions, which she was at first unused to relating to chemicals. Through it all, she maintained her nutritional program, adjusting it as she (and we) learned more. She tried to deal with the dietary issues too. These are difficult because reactions to chemicals and other stressors can make food cravings worse. I myself become very hungry when exposed to petrochemicals as at a gas station. Then she did the experiment with the anxiety attacks.
Now she is back in her circle of family and friends, has a stable relationship, runs her own business, works out with a friend, and walks and plays with her new puppy all of which continue to pump in the positive neurochemicals that help her keep well. She is a fan of movies with humor and fun as well to keep her spirits up. She is quick to cancel events that are overload items and to use groups like Weight Watchers, Al-Anon, as well as help-phone lines to bridge the gap as the nutrients take time to heal the basic problems.
More information
To work through the issues, you can go to our web site www.healthpursuitsgroup.com, the content of which is our whole basic workbook. For more detailed help, you can then go to our blog at http://ddawberblog.wordpress.com. That is what we can supply for free. Hard copies of our book on diet are available for $20 and our whole test kit costs $185 (which a group of people could share since it is reusable for at least 2 years as many times as wished.)
When the dominos fall, prying up just one is difficult and will not make it easier to lift the others. Action on as many dominos as possible is necessary. Awareness of the possibilities, observation and patience in trying strategies will help you succeed.
no worries Hens, since tomorrow never comes, ya got plenty of time to measure up.
thats right katy – from one ole hen to another!!!
One Joy, you will notice my lack of participation in this thread….the reason being that much of what is put out about “alternative” medicine is pseudo-science by people selling “products” that are actually shown in legitimate double blind RESEARCH (as opposed to pseudo-science) to be harmful at worst or at best useless.
Hens
I am a spring chicken. Born in April even. 🙂
Oxy,
I have tried various vitamins/minerals and take the ones that I can FEEL a difference, making sure not to overdose (zinc being one of them). What do you think of herbs? I take an herb to flush my innerds b/c I have a side effect from calcium and since I am allergic to milk, I must take a supplement. If I don’t, my bones aches and my hips really ache. How does a person KNOW the truth about herbs? There is so much hype. I am trying to reduce inflammation and I am very tired much of the time. I sleep 10 hrs and still need a good nap during the day. Thanks for your advice.ps food allergies dairy, gluten, garlic, tomatoes, caffiene, msg, corn syrup. Allergies trigger athsma.
Katy,
wow, you have a lot of food alergies. I do too.
I agree, you have to feel the difference in a big way, not just a slight, “well, maybe I feel better… ” kind of way.
That’s why when I started taking magnesium in large quantities, it was so obvious that it was helping my muscle pain. What I didn’t understand was WHY it was helping. Yes, it does relax the muscles, but it also gives you diahrea, which flushes the bowel of the strychnine poison that the spath was putting in the food.
(I still want to kick his ass hard for that)
When a vitamin or mineral is water soluable, it’s ok to take larger amounts (after researching side effects) because then you can figure out whether it is helpful or not.
Skylar,
Well, my gut stopped working, then the allergies starting piling up. Thought it was symbiotic that my husband and I ran a dairy ranch and I became allergic to MILK!! HA! What a metaphor!
How large a quantity of magnesium did you before it triggered the side effect? I take 1600 to 2000 a day. I rarely have that problem. B/c I also take ibuprophen as well as calcium, I have the opposite problem, and worries about appendix b/c that’s my hot spot.
Ugh, Katy, that is typically how it happens.
When the gut slows down, we sometimes get leaky gut syndrome. Look it up if you aren’t already aware of it. Once the integrity of the intestine is compromised, the toxins leak through and get into the blood stream and the immune system react to large particles that shouldn’t be in the blood stream. We then learn an autoimmune reaction to otherwise healthy food.
I began taking the homeopathic magnesium and was shocked by how well it worked. No, it was not a panacea, but compared to the way I felt before, I could feel a huge difference. So then I thought, “why not take a large quantity?
I started to take magnesum oxide (chelated with iron) at 400 mg x3 . 3x a day. It made a large difference and the diahrea started. then, I read that magnesium malate was more effective for fibro, so I switched and I didn’t take as much. I took 175mg, x3, 3 times a day.
(yes, I do mean 9 capsules.) It calmed the diahrea but made me feel better.
Still, I don’t know how much of this was from the spath adjusting his dosage as well.
My thoughts are to take as much as you can UP TO the point that it causes diahrea and then back off. (I’m assuming your don’t have poison in your food) This is what I’ve read will be the most beneficial.
Hi Oxy – Yes, of course i noticed and I not only know and understand your bias from your own writing, but also from my mother, who was an RN.
My first question is did you read the health pursuits website and diane’s blog? Do you realize that their is uptake in the medical community for what they are doing? That some of their work was recently published in a medical journal?
I was dubious about the Dr. Lendon Smith protocol (I have been around the block many times inre gards to complimentary medicine), but I know these people and I have seen the change in their lives and in mine by following the protocol (albeit incredibly imperfectly) – most dramatically around PTSD.
Nothing you said in your post in any way is in contradiction to the usefullness of what diane has written and what I support and practice. The paradigm you presented of psuedo-science and placebo does not apply in this case.
My whole reason for asking Diane to contribute something is that she understands body chemistry; and that vitamins are not only for maintaining health but regaining/ gaining it, and that each individual is an individual – their needs are different than the next persons, and we might not be able to abosrb vitamin x until we have done a course of vitamin y. This is extremely important – and this is the thing people don’t often get. There are fads in vitamins and we rush over to taking extra this or that – when we often don’t need it or can’t process it yet. Individual programs based on individual needs at any given point in time, are what make the difference. For those of us who are interested in exploring this route, Diane is an invaluable resource. She is a pragmatic and sensible woman and I am thankful that i met her. She has put thousands of hours into helping people, no charge, and sinking her own money into the group. So she isn’t a snake oil salesman – she is providing tools and information to people who want it, and who are benefiting from it.
you have worked out a regime that works for you, and you are managing your diet in such a way to stay away from pharma that is known to have pretty difficult side effects. You take an SSRI because it works for you. You have worked out something for yourself that you feel supports your health and that is comfortable for you. Placebo effect? don’t think so.
The reason I mentioned the B5and P5P (a form of B6) is because they have been VERY useful to folks involved in health pursuits for PTSD, and I know you still struggle with it. Usually, I don’t go around suggesting people take anything, BECAUSE it is so individual, but you spelled out your regime, and knowing what i know, thought it might be useful, so mentioned it. it’s a gift of knowledge – unwrap it, regift it, or throw it in the bin. But understand the spirit it was given in.
Their are folks on here who are very ill from the stress they have lived through – and this article opens a portal for them if they are interested. I asked Diane to write this so that they would have the chance to explore some possibilities that they might not otherwise have access to – sensible advice, no placebo, no fads, no quackery. She is the real deal.
katydid – how a person knows about herbs is to talk to a registered herbologist. If you want to know about vitamins, immune system response, allergies and food allergies, get in touch with diane who wrote this article.