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Develop your wise mind

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August 15, 2009 //  by Liane Leedom, M.D.//  131 Comments

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In response to my blog last week a reader commented:

I am a (borderline personality) BPD in love with a sociopath, I want to share the depth of sadness and emptiness that occurs in my soul knowing, I will never know the love and security that regular people have, Imagine how long life would be knowing you are not equipped with the same emotion’s as everyone else.

I have never understood why there is no compassion for those of us who were abused when we should’ve bonded. I did not ask to be this way and every day watch and listen to what others do in their relationships so I can do it too ( not that I have been successful , but I try).

It is not that I can’t love, it’s the opposite actually, that I am so consumed by not being loved that pushes me to that bored space that propagates my self destruction. I just feel that most socio/bpd’s wish that they had the same emotions as others, it is exhausting pretending and I wish I could go back and be my own mother and love me in a way that created a secure human not a scared , detached one like me. Bless”¦

PS , I pray every night for healing of my heart and my emotions”¦ still I am who I am.

I debated on whether to respond as a comment but the above is so well written and so touching that it deserves more visibility.

The scientific literature has documented that it is common for women with borderline personality and psychopathic personality traits to hook-up with males who are more pathological than they are. These hook-ups drag already vulnerable women down a path of terror and destruction. In speaking with many victims, I too have noted that a subset have borderline personality disorder.
To make matters worse, relationships between women with BPD and sociopathic men typically begin when the women are in their late teens and result in early pregnancy. The pair is unprepared emotionally and financially to be a couple and to care for their children, who are also then exposed to domestic violence and the sociopath’s “friends.”

Please consider that treating borderline personality in young women will reduce/prevent sociopathy in the next generation for two reasons. Treatment will reduce partnering with sociopaths and also improve parenting ability.

Why do women with BPD and sociopathy have such a high rate of partnering with sociopaths? I think the answer lies in their anxiety and in dominance motives. Sociopaths portray dominance and so are sought after as a source of security. Men who have lower levels of dominance and anxiety themselves are a turn off for insecure women. However, it is those more normal men who have the best chance at helping a borderline woman recover.

Also many women with BPD have a high level of power/dominance motivation themselves, so if they do get into a relationship with a less pathological male, they quickly make mince meat out of him. A dominant woman with BPD has the ability to destroy a normal man psychologically, just like a sociopath can.

If I had no hope I wouldn’t bring any of this up, because what is the point of spreading gloom and doom about human nature. I write this week because I don’t believe these scenarios have to play out in this way. As humans, we not only have the primitive brain with its unconscious motives of fear and dominance, we also have a “wise mind.”

If you have borderline personality (or sociopathy for that matter), your life challenge is to find your wise mind and work to connect with it. Your wise mind should dictate your actions not your primitive brain.

To discover your wise mind, you have to learn techniques of anxiety management. Anxiety interferes with the functioning of the wise mind.

Having a wise mind means deciding on values based on facts, not how I feel in the moment. For example, as I raise my son I am teaching him to have a wise mind. He knows that if left to his own devices at the age of 6 he would eat unhealthy food, not get enough sleep and entertain himself in a way that harmed him.

My son says, “I want to be the boss of myself!” Well to the extent that our primitive pleasure/fear brains choose our actions, whatever feeling of being the boss of ourselves we have is an illusion. It is only when we use our wise minds to make thoughtful decisions that we are really the boss.

Disordered parents are unable to impart the wise mind to their kids. This failure to teach impulse control is just as bad as a failure to teach love. In fact as you see by this writing, poor impulse control leads directly to an inability to love.

That gets me to the pleasure balance. In order to experience pleasure we have to be relatively free from anxiety. Thankfully, there are also medications for that.

So starting from a relatively low anxiety state, we have social and non-social pleasures. People with borderline and antisocial personality disorder also have trouble with non-social pleasures. They never learned to manage their entertainment/recreational needs. Most turn to substances for this purpose.

The wise mind knows that exercise, playing music, doing art, having hobbies and intellectual interests are important for personal growth, mental and physical health. The wise mind can choose to do these things.

The wise mind can also choose to do work to earn a living.

Social pleasures come in three forms, sex, power/dominance and affection. To the extent that sex is tied to affection and a healthy relationship, that pleasure can be fulfilling. Dominance/power that robs another person of autonomy never brings fulfillment. Love is the only real healthy social pleasure.

Our pleasure balance is not fixed and can be modified with time and practice. So my friend you can “go back and be my own mother and love me in a way that created a secure human not a scared , detached one like me.”

To start you have to use your wise mind to understand your own pleasure balance. Begin by developing healthy non-social pleasures. Every person needs a healthy diet, exercise and meaningful hobbies. Stop using recreational drugs. These things will not feel good to you when you first start them, but over time as you apply yourself you will feel better.

Then really look at your social behavior, not how you feel. Most sociopaths and people with BPD think they do feel “love.” If you dominate and control others, no matter what your reason for this is, you have to stop. As long as your relationships center around dominance you will never experience love.

To learn more about the wise mind, enter a DBT treatment program. If anyone has used a good self-help DBT book, please give us the title.

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  1. hens

    August 15, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    Oxy – I hope your stress level is down and things are running more smoothly for you, cause what would we all do if you flipped out on us? I think my granny was the stable force in my childhood, she instilled alot of good things in me. She was 1/4 choctaw indian and she had a calmness about her and was very intuned to earth. She knew my mother, her daughter was flawed and stepped up to the plate many times for me. Actually just before granny died she told me ” your parents should both die in prison for what they did ‘ I am not sure what she was referring to but at least I know she knew. I have had a good life despite the horrific childhood, I survived. As a child I was a victim, as an adult I was a target, now at fifty four maybe I will have my shit together as a sexy senior…cellphone in the microwave? hmm wonder what drove me to do such a thing?

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  2. Tilly

    August 15, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    JAH:
    “I’ve learned self-defense moves, etc.but at the end of the day, your best bet is simply to ram a nose into the brain, rip out an eye, and NEVER give up, even if you are blacked out for awhile. Once I was attacked while taking a shower, all alone, and guess what? I didn’t get raped. Because I’m willing to defend myself, no matter what I have to do.”
    Me too JAH, I was attacked on every level for my whole life. Until I knew that I wasn’t scared to fight back (which came through being attacked again ( I didn’t fight the P husband back) but as a much older adult), until then, I didn’t have a hope in hell of survival in any way.

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  3. super chic

    August 15, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    I guess I’m not BDP, but it sounded like a good idea at the time.

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  4. super chic

    August 15, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    oops, BPD, I can’t even arrange the letters correctly!

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  5. neveragain

    August 15, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Shabbychic….sometimes we think we fit a criteria, but therapists who have seen the real deal can tell you, no way! Or confirm. Sometimes we’ve learned defeating behaviors, but they come from bad examples, not from our core, and are pretty easy to fix.

    I think the best cure for emptiness is to find someone in more need than you are. Some conditition that speaks to your heart. Abused animals, abused children, starving children, homeless families, the elderly, rape victims…whoever…..there is someone who NEEDS YOU!!!!! I really do think that is the best cure for so many things.

    Off to do MY volunteer work!

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  6. slimone

    August 15, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    Shabbychic,

    I don’t know you. So I cannot really address this with certainty.

    But, think about this. Could it be that your willingness to diagnose yourself with BPD is another symptom of owning the sick projections of an abusive partner? And the projections, maybe, of a society that does not fully recognize, let alone understand, the reality of Post Traumatic Stress reactions in victims of ‘abuse’?

    I don’t have any idea if you are BPD. But I do know you have survived something horrible, where ‘projection’ is a key defense of the victimizer.

    I salute your courage to examine this possibility. But I also encourage you to go easy on yourself.

    With love, Slimone

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  7. Easy

    August 15, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    I found this discription of people in a course I am taking.
    See if it is me or are they describing ASPD at it’s most destructive position in our society!? Oh , personaly I think they are evil.

    They’re not evil. These organizations consist of well-educated elitists who’re self-absorbed perhaps, but not evil. They look at the world as a biological experience where the strong survive, the powerful thrive, and the secretive control. They are the ultimate control freaks not for the sake of adoration or ego-gratification, but because they genuinely believe they’re the best at making policy decisions that effect the world’s economy and security. They simply want to protect their life’s agenda like anyone else would. ~ Dr. Anderson

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  8. PInow

    August 15, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    BPD – the disorder may be about seeing things in “black and white”. The book “I hate you, don’t leave me” – is excellent for resource and learning. But, the traits are not “black or white”. One can have Borderline Personality Organization structure and not a full blown disorder. At the end of the day it is only classification used by mental health professionals to treat patients. Most of our Ps are not even patients (though should be)…
    I hope we don’t start putting ourselves in boxes.

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  9. ANewLily

    August 16, 2009 at 12:11 am

    Easy, it took me awhile to accept it but I, too, they are evil. At least, mine was/is.

    My interpretation of Dr. Anderson’s description of them as “not evil” may be the difference from a therapist from the humanist viewpoint (mankind is all powerful) and a therapist who has a spiritual orientation (the Creator of the Universes is all-knowning.)

    I personally think any human who is pervasively self-absorbed considers themselves to be all-knowing as if they were God Himself and thus mistreat others in very evil ways.

    Just my 2 cents

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  10. Easy

    August 16, 2009 at 12:22 am

    Thanks Lily

    The Course I am taking is a personal Growth course and it is being taught from the perspective of there is no Good or evil.

    That would be fine , except that there is Good and evil and evil is Alive and well and wealthy!

    http://www.911truth.org/?page=1

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