In response to my blog last week a reader commented:
I am a (borderline personality) BPD in love with a sociopath, I want to share the depth of sadness and emptiness that occurs in my soul knowing, I will never know the love and security that regular people have, Imagine how long life would be knowing you are not equipped with the same emotion’s as everyone else.
I have never understood why there is no compassion for those of us who were abused when we should’ve bonded. I did not ask to be this way and every day watch and listen to what others do in their relationships so I can do it too ( not that I have been successful , but I try).
It is not that I can’t love, it’s the opposite actually, that I am so consumed by not being loved that pushes me to that bored space that propagates my self destruction. I just feel that most socio/bpd’s wish that they had the same emotions as others, it is exhausting pretending and I wish I could go back and be my own mother and love me in a way that created a secure human not a scared , detached one like me. Bless”¦
PS , I pray every night for healing of my heart and my emotions”¦ still I am who I am.
I debated on whether to respond as a comment but the above is so well written and so touching that it deserves more visibility.
The scientific literature has documented that it is common for women with borderline personality and psychopathic personality traits to hook-up with males who are more pathological than they are. These hook-ups drag already vulnerable women down a path of terror and destruction. In speaking with many victims, I too have noted that a subset have borderline personality disorder.
To make matters worse, relationships between women with BPD and sociopathic men typically begin when the women are in their late teens and result in early pregnancy. The pair is unprepared emotionally and financially to be a couple and to care for their children, who are also then exposed to domestic violence and the sociopath’s “friends.”
Please consider that treating borderline personality in young women will reduce/prevent sociopathy in the next generation for two reasons. Treatment will reduce partnering with sociopaths and also improve parenting ability.
Why do women with BPD and sociopathy have such a high rate of partnering with sociopaths? I think the answer lies in their anxiety and in dominance motives. Sociopaths portray dominance and so are sought after as a source of security. Men who have lower levels of dominance and anxiety themselves are a turn off for insecure women. However, it is those more normal men who have the best chance at helping a borderline woman recover.
Also many women with BPD have a high level of power/dominance motivation themselves, so if they do get into a relationship with a less pathological male, they quickly make mince meat out of him. A dominant woman with BPD has the ability to destroy a normal man psychologically, just like a sociopath can.
If I had no hope I wouldn’t bring any of this up, because what is the point of spreading gloom and doom about human nature. I write this week because I don’t believe these scenarios have to play out in this way. As humans, we not only have the primitive brain with its unconscious motives of fear and dominance, we also have a “wise mind.”
If you have borderline personality (or sociopathy for that matter), your life challenge is to find your wise mind and work to connect with it. Your wise mind should dictate your actions not your primitive brain.
To discover your wise mind, you have to learn techniques of anxiety management. Anxiety interferes with the functioning of the wise mind.
Having a wise mind means deciding on values based on facts, not how I feel in the moment. For example, as I raise my son I am teaching him to have a wise mind. He knows that if left to his own devices at the age of 6 he would eat unhealthy food, not get enough sleep and entertain himself in a way that harmed him.
My son says, “I want to be the boss of myself!” Well to the extent that our primitive pleasure/fear brains choose our actions, whatever feeling of being the boss of ourselves we have is an illusion. It is only when we use our wise minds to make thoughtful decisions that we are really the boss.
Disordered parents are unable to impart the wise mind to their kids. This failure to teach impulse control is just as bad as a failure to teach love. In fact as you see by this writing, poor impulse control leads directly to an inability to love.
That gets me to the pleasure balance. In order to experience pleasure we have to be relatively free from anxiety. Thankfully, there are also medications for that.
So starting from a relatively low anxiety state, we have social and non-social pleasures. People with borderline and antisocial personality disorder also have trouble with non-social pleasures. They never learned to manage their entertainment/recreational needs. Most turn to substances for this purpose.
The wise mind knows that exercise, playing music, doing art, having hobbies and intellectual interests are important for personal growth, mental and physical health. The wise mind can choose to do these things.
The wise mind can also choose to do work to earn a living.
Social pleasures come in three forms, sex, power/dominance and affection. To the extent that sex is tied to affection and a healthy relationship, that pleasure can be fulfilling. Dominance/power that robs another person of autonomy never brings fulfillment. Love is the only real healthy social pleasure.
Our pleasure balance is not fixed and can be modified with time and practice. So my friend you can “go back and be my own mother and love me in a way that created a secure human not a scared , detached one like me.”
To start you have to use your wise mind to understand your own pleasure balance. Begin by developing healthy non-social pleasures. Every person needs a healthy diet, exercise and meaningful hobbies. Stop using recreational drugs. These things will not feel good to you when you first start them, but over time as you apply yourself you will feel better.
Then really look at your social behavior, not how you feel. Most sociopaths and people with BPD think they do feel “love.” If you dominate and control others, no matter what your reason for this is, you have to stop. As long as your relationships center around dominance you will never experience love.
To learn more about the wise mind, enter a DBT treatment program. If anyone has used a good self-help DBT book, please give us the title.
Came across this because my BP/BDP spouse of 5 years left me for a Sociopath who is now back in prison (some abuse to another woman).
I’m sure he knows the exact right things to say. As something I read said “if you need them to cry, they’ll sob, if you need them to funny, they’ll tell jokes, if it means getting what they want and controlling you”
Wife now sends the bulk or her $$$ to jail, and collect calls. Selling the rest of her belongings to keep doing that.
She knows she may be being played, but to her, it’s ‘true love’. Says I never loved her, or she doesn’t think I did, and may kill herself if this current one goes south. Grandiose plans of travelling the country and having his babies.
This started about 7 weeks ago, after she met him at a party. Before she left, she said she loved me, we kissed/hugged, and I think she meant it. She was manic (now un-medicated), I couldn’t go [work].
Attempting not to talk with her until the end of the month because this has all been a whirlwind of emotional pain for me. I told her in that email that I think she’s being used for $$$ and she’s with a psychopath.
“He’s a starving artist, not insane” was the reply.
I agree with the article in that Borderlines, their inner emotional landscape, and their “search for true romantic love” are an easy catch for Psychopaths.
Confidence is easy if you’re making up the answers along the way.
Thanks for opening my eyes, and I hope those reading this article who are being used by a psychopath know the mantra:
“Run!”
Thanks justabouthealed and shabbychic – I really got a lot out of your insights here.
Oxy – I was a little confused about your post ( I am not the brightest spark) but I think I know what you are saying, its the nature nurture thing? I am terminally fluffy about things, and have often thought that even when born into dire circumstances some can still feel the moral or spiritual wrongs in their society and surroundings ‘naturally’. I think I did, I felt my life was a constant trauma because I couldnt make the behaviours of my care givers ‘sit quietly’ within what I instictively felt was right or wrong… luckily for me at about 9 years of age I had glimpses of other lifestyles… a particularly wonderful Nanny, her family her husband, how they behaved….a particularly wonderful Head Mistress, her family, how they behaved… gave me a kind of validation of how I felt and idea of how good relationships work… I realise though, how your cultural surroundings , even if you are blessed with such insights into better ways of living are so HARD to kick against. Did I invite the relationship with the sociopath into my life because, even though I told myself at the time that this was a way to the ultimate construction of the ‘good life model’ I had seen and wanted for myself,I actually was buying back into the familiar abuse? Maybe part of it. The other part is he read and tapped into that ‘dream’ and recognised it for the important jewel it was, took it, and smashed it to pieces. I dont know if I make any sense.:(
Oh, I guess none of it matters now anyway, the important thing is what I do next.
xxxxx
Blueskies
It makes perfect sence! We are manipulated by Dreams and Fears! We are promised a rose garden and given a Tangle of thorns!
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrolinformation#mindcontrolvideos
God. (thanks Easy, havent met you before so, hey:) and I will look for your posts:)xx but this makes me want to puke… and become a hermit:( Who is this site aimed at?
Dear NYD,
Welcome to LoveFraud, sorry you “qualify” to be here by association with psychopaths.
It sounds as if your wife is a (now) unmedicated bi-polar in a mania stage. That is a particularly vulnerable person for a psychopath to target, and they are very good at picking the vulnerable targets. Unfortunately, too, many psychopaths are ALSO bi-polar which makes those ones particularly dangerous I think. (There are some articles here you might search the archives for.)
It is pretty clear to anyone except your x wife that she is being played, but her own condition makes it impossible for her to see the truth.
For us—the ones who are “left behind” in the wake of the storm, in order to protect ourselves we must learn the red flags the psychopaths wave so that we do not become involved with another one, even by accident.
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER, and the more we know, the better protected we are. Again, welcome.
Dear Blueskies,
You got the gist of my post, and yes, others outside the family can teach us about the larger (outside of the family) concepts of right and wrong when our family is teaching us another thing. The main point is though that what is “right” and what is “wrong” (our conscience) is TAUGHT us. I think it was you who said you pulled wings off a butterfly when you were a kid. A kid can be taught this is a good thing, or taught it is a bad thing by the “culture” or an individual, they aren’t BORN knowing not to tear apart a butterfly and natural curiosity of “what happens if” is what kids do. They aren’t born knowing what is “right.” Children are TAUGHT the content of the conscience, some how the psychopaths get the teaching part–i.e. “it is wrong to tear wings from butterflies” (as an example of right and wrong) but the psychopaths “know” that, but they don’t care, they ENJOY doing it ANYWAY. It (a rule) doesn’t apply to them.
I have NO doubt that my P-son knows it is “wrong” to kill people, but he thinks that rule doesn’t apply to him doing it. He sets his own rules, and since she “snitched” him off, he feels justified in killing her, proud of it actually.
This is a site talking about how this kind of human fear/dream scenario can be tapped into by no-goods (socios?) on a global scale.
Oxy – I NEVER PULLED THE WINGS OFF A BUTTERFLY!!! Jeese! I cant IMAGINE doing that.
Where did I say that? I am really into lepidopterology (spellcheck) in an amature way… this upsets me, where did I say that?xx
The Media is controled by Corporations! notice the news we get is really just entertainment and 80% advertizement for drugs!
For the real truth in information and real news you have to reaserch the independnts.
http://www.soulofmoney.org/about/about-the-book/excerpts/
We are not as dumb as they want to believe
In Our experience on a personal level with the N/S/Ps our eyes are opened to Real Danger!
Bytheway It is not Personal for them (N/S/P) they do it to whom ever!