In response to my blog last week a reader commented:
I am a (borderline personality) BPD in love with a sociopath, I want to share the depth of sadness and emptiness that occurs in my soul knowing, I will never know the love and security that regular people have, Imagine how long life would be knowing you are not equipped with the same emotion’s as everyone else.
I have never understood why there is no compassion for those of us who were abused when we should’ve bonded. I did not ask to be this way and every day watch and listen to what others do in their relationships so I can do it too ( not that I have been successful , but I try).
It is not that I can’t love, it’s the opposite actually, that I am so consumed by not being loved that pushes me to that bored space that propagates my self destruction. I just feel that most socio/bpd’s wish that they had the same emotions as others, it is exhausting pretending and I wish I could go back and be my own mother and love me in a way that created a secure human not a scared , detached one like me. Bless”¦
PS , I pray every night for healing of my heart and my emotions”¦ still I am who I am.
I debated on whether to respond as a comment but the above is so well written and so touching that it deserves more visibility.
The scientific literature has documented that it is common for women with borderline personality and psychopathic personality traits to hook-up with males who are more pathological than they are. These hook-ups drag already vulnerable women down a path of terror and destruction. In speaking with many victims, I too have noted that a subset have borderline personality disorder.
To make matters worse, relationships between women with BPD and sociopathic men typically begin when the women are in their late teens and result in early pregnancy. The pair is unprepared emotionally and financially to be a couple and to care for their children, who are also then exposed to domestic violence and the sociopath’s “friends.”
Please consider that treating borderline personality in young women will reduce/prevent sociopathy in the next generation for two reasons. Treatment will reduce partnering with sociopaths and also improve parenting ability.
Why do women with BPD and sociopathy have such a high rate of partnering with sociopaths? I think the answer lies in their anxiety and in dominance motives. Sociopaths portray dominance and so are sought after as a source of security. Men who have lower levels of dominance and anxiety themselves are a turn off for insecure women. However, it is those more normal men who have the best chance at helping a borderline woman recover.
Also many women with BPD have a high level of power/dominance motivation themselves, so if they do get into a relationship with a less pathological male, they quickly make mince meat out of him. A dominant woman with BPD has the ability to destroy a normal man psychologically, just like a sociopath can.
If I had no hope I wouldn’t bring any of this up, because what is the point of spreading gloom and doom about human nature. I write this week because I don’t believe these scenarios have to play out in this way. As humans, we not only have the primitive brain with its unconscious motives of fear and dominance, we also have a “wise mind.”
If you have borderline personality (or sociopathy for that matter), your life challenge is to find your wise mind and work to connect with it. Your wise mind should dictate your actions not your primitive brain.
To discover your wise mind, you have to learn techniques of anxiety management. Anxiety interferes with the functioning of the wise mind.
Having a wise mind means deciding on values based on facts, not how I feel in the moment. For example, as I raise my son I am teaching him to have a wise mind. He knows that if left to his own devices at the age of 6 he would eat unhealthy food, not get enough sleep and entertain himself in a way that harmed him.
My son says, “I want to be the boss of myself!” Well to the extent that our primitive pleasure/fear brains choose our actions, whatever feeling of being the boss of ourselves we have is an illusion. It is only when we use our wise minds to make thoughtful decisions that we are really the boss.
Disordered parents are unable to impart the wise mind to their kids. This failure to teach impulse control is just as bad as a failure to teach love. In fact as you see by this writing, poor impulse control leads directly to an inability to love.
That gets me to the pleasure balance. In order to experience pleasure we have to be relatively free from anxiety. Thankfully, there are also medications for that.
So starting from a relatively low anxiety state, we have social and non-social pleasures. People with borderline and antisocial personality disorder also have trouble with non-social pleasures. They never learned to manage their entertainment/recreational needs. Most turn to substances for this purpose.
The wise mind knows that exercise, playing music, doing art, having hobbies and intellectual interests are important for personal growth, mental and physical health. The wise mind can choose to do these things.
The wise mind can also choose to do work to earn a living.
Social pleasures come in three forms, sex, power/dominance and affection. To the extent that sex is tied to affection and a healthy relationship, that pleasure can be fulfilling. Dominance/power that robs another person of autonomy never brings fulfillment. Love is the only real healthy social pleasure.
Our pleasure balance is not fixed and can be modified with time and practice. So my friend you can “go back and be my own mother and love me in a way that created a secure human not a scared , detached one like me.”
To start you have to use your wise mind to understand your own pleasure balance. Begin by developing healthy non-social pleasures. Every person needs a healthy diet, exercise and meaningful hobbies. Stop using recreational drugs. These things will not feel good to you when you first start them, but over time as you apply yourself you will feel better.
Then really look at your social behavior, not how you feel. Most sociopaths and people with BPD think they do feel “love.” If you dominate and control others, no matter what your reason for this is, you have to stop. As long as your relationships center around dominance you will never experience love.
To learn more about the wise mind, enter a DBT treatment program. If anyone has used a good self-help DBT book, please give us the title.
Dear Easy,
VERY WISE WORDS, my friend!!!! You are so right that so many people seem to think “if I just had XYZ or $$$, I would be happy” but THINGS do not determine our happiness.
The Apostle Paul advised his followers to “be content in whatever state you are…” He even advised the Christians who were SLAVES that if they could not obtain their freedom, to BE CONTENT and to serve their masters with all their hearts and not be dis-content even as slaves.
That is some PROFOUND WISDOM….I am and have said for years “one of the RICHEST people in the world, richer than Bill Gates”—but NOT in money, but in CONTENTMENT WITH WHAT I HAVE.
There is really nothing that money can buy that I crave, desire, want or need. I have a home, transportation, clothing, all the food I could need (and then some) reasonable medical care and health. I traveled the world as a teenager and saw the REAL financial poverty of people who don’t even have CLEAN WATER, who watch their children die of hunger and malnutrition and diseases easily preventable here in “civilization” and yet it seems our society, where even most poor people have enough to eat and clean water, does not appreciate the RICHES we have in material things, and crave and desire “more”–where children kill each other for a pair of “fashionable” shoes or a coat just out of DESIRE for MORE.
We are all of us blessed not to be born in Darfur or 1,000 other places I could name. Counting our blessings and being content where we are rather than always dwelling on the LOSSES we have all suffered as victims of the greedy, the malicious, etc. is a good thing for us all to do. I know I don’t do it enough. Thanks for reminding me to COUNT MY BLESSINGS.
Amen to the above posts! It really DOES help.
Here is a great series on setting boundaries, and there is lots of good stuff here, even though it is more about the garden variety bad guy…which is bad enough.
http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/10-fundamental-lessons-onboundaries-in-relationships-part-1/
I took the image of the boundary and made it my desktop background!
Jah- great link from what I have read so far:)xx
Boundaries don’t work with psychopaths because they view them as a CHALLENGE, BUT, that said, when they cross the boundary that has been clearly set, it gives us the WARNING: RUN!!!!!! and at that point it is up to us to ENFORCE the boundary.
Any time you set a boundary, it is possible that the relationship will end.
Of course there are some “boundaries” that are sort of unspoken…..we think….but since the psychopaths do not respect ANY boundary they will cross some of these “unspoken” boundaries that most of us have just as part of “social life.” Thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not kill, etc.
If we have a person (we’re talking adults here not small children) STEAL from us (even something small) do we ever want that person in our lives? If so, WHY? If someone steals something small, even, they have cross the boundary with you, and made it clear to you that they are NOT trust worthy and will take whtever you have that they want and think they can get away with.
I am by the telling of a lie the same way, lie to me ONCE, and if I catch you, OUT! No second chances. It shows that the person is sneaky, untrustworthy, and doesn’t respect me. Saying what you mean, keeping your word, doing what you say yyou will do (unless there is a VERY VALID REASON WHY NOT) is important to me. I’ve “over looked” these things before to my sorrow.
A “mistake” is adding 2+2 and getting 5, a DELIBERATE is lying, stealilng, etc. it is NOT a “mistake.” P’s do DELIBERATES, not mistakes.
JAH, good link, what do they call them? Assclowns? LOL
Oxy, yes, I too have overlooked a lot… to my own sorrow… Thank you for the post, I can’t let fear run my life.
N/S/P Detection 101
1. What are considered unwriten natural social laws do not apply to the N/S/P. Boundaries/social behaviors that are accepted.
OxDrover,
You wrote, “Boundaries don’t work with psychopaths because they view them as a CHALLENGE.”
Thank you for that insight!! I don’t know why I hadn’t come to that conclusion before, but I had not!
I have tried and tried and tried to examine myself for how I don’t set boundaries and have come up blank. In other relationships, I don’t see that any of my boundaries have been broached.
But, I have only known ONE psychopath!! The “empty suit” I was married to! And it is clear to me NOW that our “relationship” was based on broken boundaries at the very beginning because he saw them as “chaloenges.” YES YES YES
I feel such relief after so many years of wondering about boundaries. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry with this insight!
I think I’ll do neitherl, just keep on keeping on.
Dear all,
I hope you all can rejoice with me that I CAN attend my sister’s funeral! I’m absolutely amazed that several MIRACLES have paved my way to go. Without them, it would have been impossible!
I’ll be back here on the 21st or 22nd.
Be assured that my thoughts and prayers will be with all of you while I’m gone. You have all (even the newbies) become very precious to me.
Dear Lily,
Miracles do happen, and I am so glad that you are going to be able to attend your sister’s funeral. I hope it will give you peace and closure. funerals are for the living. Take care and travel safely! (((hugs)))))
Dear Easy,
I of course know that not every person who ever told a lie is a psychopath, but by eliminating all known liars out of my sphere, I ALSO eliminate all the psychopaths so I would rather be safe than sorry on this one, besides, what do I want a liar in my “circle of trust” for anyway? Even if they aren’t a P, they are not someone I want close to me.
N/S/P Elimination 101
Keep all liars and thieves out of your circle of trust.