Editor’s note: The following post was written by the Lovefraud reader “Adelade.” Names have been changed.
One of the most important undertaking in divorcing from a sociopath is to remain, at all times, factual during legal proceedings.
When I first entered my attorney’s office to tell her why I wanted a divorce, I was hysterical and incomprehensible. This was immediately after I had been arrested for Domestic Violence, and I was in a state of sheer panic and anxiety that I had never believed possible. I didn’t unload my “feelings” so much as the ugly facts about my action I had discovered that Kerby had not only been living a double-life since before we ever even met, but that his interests were so repellant that I was unable to process them. This was well before I discovered the forgeries and truths of how 300K vanished in 2 ½ years.
Remaining emotionally detached during legal proceedings is no simple task, especially when we’re divorcing from a sociopath. If there are children in common, anxiety, stress, and despair can be compounded to the point where we’re unable to do anything better than obsess about what the spath did, and continues to do. This becomes all-consuming and affects our employment positions, our personal interactions, and family dynamics.
Courts and Attorneys are not interested in how you “feel”
First and foremost, we must realize, understand, and accept this fact: attorneys are not counseling therapists. The Law deals in facts only, and an attorney is not interested in how their client “feels.” This is harsh and seems unreasonable, but it’s vital to understand that it is 100% true. Courts are not interested in how litigants “feel,” either. As harsh as it may sound, the Law cannot afford to engage in the emotional aspects of any given matter it simply can’t. So, having made this clear, anyone who is intending on divorcing from a sociopath should, without fail and across the board, seek strong counseling therapy with someone that “gets it” about what they experienced. The counselor will hear, identify, and assist in the emotional carnage and help the client move towards recovery. The attorney requires facts, only.
Get tested for STDs
If the spath had one or many affairs, get tested for STDs immediately, prior to filing your divorce. Every State (to my knowledge) provides punitive damages to be awarded for a spouse who received a STD from their philandering husband or wife. In some States, these damages cannot be bankrupted and can be very harsh. Additionally, collect all medical information that may be pertinent to your case with regard to disability and medical conditions.
Keep emotions out of your fact finding
Collecting information about the divorce can be a frustrating experience be prepared for this and separate the emotion from the processes. Gathering financial documentation, joint account information, personal credit reports, vital documentation (marriage certificates, etc.), and any physical evidence of malfeasance requires a very cool head. We cannot accomplish these tasks if we are running hot on emotion. We can become hysterical when a banking representative responds that we must pay $1 per page for transaction records, or when someone is short with us, or even if someone is kind to us. Get that emotion out of your system before making phone calls or walking into offices.
When the complaint is drafted for the divorce action, this document speaks specifically about why you are seeking a legal divorce, and what you will present to support this matter. Name-calling, insulting, and bashing are not allowed, although the spath’s attorney will likely resort to these tactics. These tactics may be abominable, but they have a purpose: to place the plaintiff on the defensive.
As an example, Kerby’s response to my complaint was that I was obese, lazy, and a “failed artist.” These words were intended to incite outrage and a strong emotional response. Because I was involved in counseling therapy, I was able to process this effort for what it was, and remain detached from the emotional outrage in counter-responses. This is not to say that these claims didn’t infuriate me, because the most certainly did! But, that outrage was addressed in counseling and not on the phone with my attorney.
Read over the complaint draft and make absolute certain that your attorney presents facts, only. No insults, no “feelings,” and no conjecture: facts, only. If the defendant (soon-to-be-ex) has failed to pay utilities, then make this clear without accusations or emotional rants and substantiate this claim with documentation. Make certain that your complaint says only what needs to be said, and nothing more. Make certain that all facts are accurate: dates, names, financial information, etc., all must be 100% accurate and supported with evidence.
Maintain control at all times in court
In the courtroom during hearings, there will be intense anxiety. It is unavoidable. Donna suggested that I express and release my anxiety, anger, rage, disappointment, despair, and grief BEFORE appearing in court in any healthy way that I was able to. This advice was priceless. Releasing the emotion prior to appearances prevents the emotions from spilling out in the courtroom. If necessary, speak to your physician about your anxiety and definitely keep your counseling therapist in the loop, at all times.
Courtroom outbursts are simply not allowed. Any emotional display, such as, “He’s LYING!” or, “She’s CRAZY!” will not, under any circumstances, win any points for you. Even rolling your eyes, sighing, or shaking your head in disgust is not going to do you any service. Quiet, reserved dignity is essential. Let the spath slip a cog and rant in the courtroom, but you are in control of your behaviors and you are not obligated to react to lies you have provided your attorney with the necessary documentation to prove your case, and that’s it.
Tell your attorney everything in advance so there are no surprises in court
Let your attorney do the talking, always, and make sure that you are both on the same proverbial page. Tell your attorney if there are issues that you do not want brought up and, specifically, why. He/she will be prepared to counter any sneak-attacks by the spath’s attorney. If there are issues of custody/visitation before the court, remain calm and factual. Accusations of bad parenting, etc., are not going to be entertained by the court. Only facts need be presented, and you will be keeping a factual log throughout these processes that will only contain dates, times, actions, and results. No emotional observations or accusations are allowed save the emotion for your counseling sessions.
Don’t discuss details with children or outsiders
If your legal matter involves children in common, keep the children out of all adult matters. I cannot stress this strongly enough. DISALLOW any discussion of what the other parent is, has done, is doing, or any child support discussions. You are not obligated to explain your actions to your children and a simple, “I’m not discussing these matters with you. They are between your mother/father and me, and regardless of our differences, we both still love you.” A spath parent in a divorce/custody/visitation matter is going to do everything within their power to force innocent children to choose sides. If you respond to your child’s demands to “know” everything, you’ll only be playing the same vicious games that the spath is playing, and this will only further damage the children. Counseling sessions for the children may be a very good option, as well.
Although we are compelled to do this, it is a personal imperative that we not discuss our divorce proceedings with others except our closest friends, family, and/or counseling therapist. Divorcing a sociopath is unlike any other drama/trauma that we’re equipped to process and “outsiders” will quickly either tire of our emotional state, or they’ll eagerly drink up the drama/trauma for their own purposes. Do not discuss details of your case with anyone other than your attorney and counselor. Well-meaning people will open their mouths at the most inopportune times to bring up your dirty laundry as a part of the human condition.
Know in advance what outcomes are possible
Finally, remember that you aren’t the first person to experience this and, sadly, you will not be the last. The Laws in most States in the U.S. maintain “no fault” divorce which means that nobody is held to be “at fault” for the collapse of a contract of marriage. Court involves “equitable distribution,” only, and it is imperative that you understand that you’re not going to be awarded punitive damages because he/she has slept with half of the town’s population, defrauded you of your personal finances, or any other misdeed or misconduct.
Nobody “wins” any divorce/custody/visitation matter except the representing attorneys. Be prepared for this fact and make sure that your attorney explains this to you, in detail. It is a very rare event that one party walks away with the whole kielbasa and the other party is left destitute when assets, incomes, and personal property are “distributed equitably.” It may not be “fair,” but it is a fact that will not be changed unless and until “No Fault Divorce” is either amended, or repealed.
The ultimate “win” will be to keep your self-respect in tact
Cool heads prevail in courtrooms, and it’s very easy to get caught up in the drama/trauma of it all. Spaths create such widespread carnage that we want everyone to understand and appreciate what was done to us. Divorce court is not the venue to accomplish this task, if there even is one that’s appropriate outside of counseling sessions and this blog site. Separating the emotion from facts will not only assist your attorney in preparing your case, but you will likely be amazed that your worst fears don’t manifest inside the courtroom after all is said and done. Keeping the emotion out of your legal matters will allow you to process the events and recover more quickly and with a sense of accomplishment, regardless of how your matter is settled.
Thank you for your suggestions. I had a time remembering where I asked this question and kept getting sidetracked!
I wonder why my counsellor hasn’t suggested this. It seems spot on. I’ve been doing this without really understanding why, but since going on anti depressants it’s not so easy for me to cry. Oh the irony!
Physically I’m not well, or I’d run around the block a few times.
It’s blowing off steam isn’t it? So obvious now that I see it 🙂 🙂
Speakout, it may be an option to start asking your counselor for techniques and tools. Unless I had made it clear that I wasn’t engaging in sessions to just “talk,” I don’t know if my counselor would have given me tools and management techniques.
I identify with the physical limitations. I used to rant and rave when I was driving, alone. I’m sure that passersby must have thought I was crazier than a shithouse rat! My face would be livid and I would be screaming at the tops of my lungs! LOL. Even throwing eggs at a tree gets it out of our systems – there is something extremely satisfying about hearing and seeing the “SPLAT” that an egg makes whn the Laws of Physics are applied.
Brightest blessings
EDIT ADD: the computer that I’ve been using finally bid a “Fare thee well” so I’m using an old cell phone that connects to WiFi even withou cell service. So, there will be MANY typos to come!
I went thru a divorce with a spath. The spath played the courts, lied, and my atty. never presented anything. Prior to the trial, the Judge summoned myself, and my atty. in her chambers-no court reporter-and stated that I would loose everything, if I proceed with the trial, she would give me over to the States attorneys office on a felony for abusing the power of attorney. My attorney never said a word, and I spent months to give my attorney every piece of documentation-he did absolutely nothing. I walked out with 10,000 and lost everything. Three days before the trial
I discovered that the spath had closed out an investment fund over 85,000, and nothing was done. I never thought
people like this existed, now I do. It made me stronger. I
knew the attorneys were all being played by the spath and they were getting paid off. I contacted the IRS, and told them everything. My attorney was relunctant when the IRS
was to meet in the attorneys office, because he knew he would implicated down the road. Spaths are bullys. They
labeled me crazy in the court, and during my deposition, they were going to appoint a guardian ad litem. The spath and the spath attorney had wanted me to take a psychological test that was 6 hours long. I was threatened by the Judge, that if I did not take this test , I would be sent to prison. I took the test, and the Dr. stated that I was not disordered, it was a conspiracy. My attorney knew I never abused the poa, and that the spath and his spath brother never paid corporation taxes over 14 yrs, so if he was not going to turn him in, I did. Hope justice is served.
Dear Edge of sanity,
Unfortunately, we don’t always get justice in the courts, sometimes not even in this life time….but don’t give up! There is liife after the psychopath. (((Hugs))) and God bless.
Howdy to All,
I am new to this blog and I’m getting so much out of the articles and a lot more out of what all you guys are sharing.
Thank you “Truthspeaks” for sharing what you did about our emotions and putting them aside for business. I too, really need to hear that since my divorce is coming up as well. Holding myself together is the last thing I can think of when I would much rather “””feel””” like jumping over the court tables and choking every inch of life of him!! This article has been VERY helpful!!
Hope all goes well for you Radar_On!!
Hey Speakout,
I can relate to you with all the anger, rage anxiety etc.!! Big time!! I really like what Donna and darwinsmom said. You can also email yourself on your own personal email and just let it rip. There are so many things I’m sure you might want to tell your ex/soon to be, so you can say it here and even delete it afterwards. This way, you release it and get some anger out. This has helped me tremendously…also getting on the eliptical machine and doing some exercise!! (I too, have a long way to go in this process.)
Hang in there Gal, you will get through this and be a stronger person!!
God Bless…
Freedombound, welcome to LoveFraud, and I’m glad that you found this site. Reading, processing, and posting during (and, after) your legal matters will be invaluable in your recovery.
Brightest blessings
UPDATE: In Nov. 2011, the spath-hole that I am married to (we’re not divorced yet) bought a 2005 Honda for me. (now i know it was just another way of him having a control over me). He has made all of the car payments thus far. With my current financial situation, there is no way I can do $300 for the car. So he has been paying on this gift he purchased since then. He is primary on the loan, i am secondary. The vehicle is in my name, i pay the insurance. NOW: Seeing as i have “blown his spathy cover” he knows blown. I do know for a fact he wants to buy a new sport utility vehicle this spring, sooo that is why he NOW wants the car back! He knows i cant afford the car payments, i believe he wants the vehicle back so he can use it for a trade in! Last nite i get this txt message from him: “next week my attorney will call you, so you can read the paperwork… if you don’t want the car, I will take it. Sign it over to me, if you do not agree we will take it to court! You will pay half of court and I will pay half of court!” (end txt). Upon seeing this, i thought, WTF!!!!! He must be out of his freaking mind, To think that I would engage in a conversation with his atty over the phone! The last time I talk to him, I told him, you are going to pay for the car, because of all the shady s*** you were doing behind my back! So now he’s trying to blow smoke up my arse, for him to think that I would fall for his intimidation tactic? And I know for a fact, he does not want to pay for the car, and he does not want it to be taken in a repossession,, because that would go against his credit. Besides if he can chisel the car back out of me, he can use the car he bought for me as a freakin trade in! Ohhhhhhhh, This is going to get very interesting indeed! Any input on this matter would be greatly appreciated! (yeah, there are no bus service is not that I can utilize if I don’t have a car, and no, certainly no help from family. They are in no position to help me.)
Radar_On, first of all, who contacted you with regard to this vehicle? His attorney? You do NOT SPEAK to his attorney – let YOUR attorney speak for you.
Next, you do NOT discuss the shady shit that the exspath (soon to be) has done and attempt to use his actions as some sort of veiled threat or bargaining tool.
Lastly, you have a choice, here. You can allow your attorney to do their job, or you can try to do it YOUR way. I just finished my divorce in January, and I lost real estate equity in the amount of 40K. I lost my only mode of transportation in a repossession. I lost about 300K from coercion and outright forgeries. I lost a job that I very much enjoyed. I lost a great many things, Radar. But, what I did NOT lose was my cool. That is NOT to say that I didn’t get on this blog and rant, vent, and carry on about my situations, but I did not try to do my attorney’s job for her.
Whenever a threat comes up, it’s a trigger to FEAR. WHAT IF I LOSE MY CAR?!?! WHAT IF?!?! It’s an intentional trigger, as well – make a snap decision without thinking anything through or discussing it with your attorney. HURRY!! HURRY!!!! The spath believes that you will make a decision out of fear that will benefit him – so does his attorney. THIS is why it’s best to rant, vent, and entertain the understandable fear in a “safe” environment like this blog or with a strong counseling therapist. Do NOT take panic to your attorney – they are working within the confines of the Law and are not counseling therapists.
The response that would BEST serve you, at all times, is simply this, “Speak to my attorney. Goodbye.” Do not attempt to tell the spath all about himself. Do not attempt to tell HIS attorney what he is. Save all of that venom for your counseling therapist and this blog.
Right now, at this very moment, concentrate on controlling your breathing, observing where you are (physically recognize), describe to yourself what you are physically touching, smelling, hearing, etc…..get yourself back into the present. Then, tomorrow, let the dipshit and his attorney contact YOUR attorney.
I hope this is helpful to you.
Brightest blessings
EDIT ADD: Radar, it just occurred to me that a 2005 vehicle shouldn’t cost $300 per month. Ever. Did you ever close out your joint bank accounts? Did you ever get joint bank records that reflect deposits and withdrawals (including joint credit cards)? It may be a good idea to focus on gathering documentation on finances, this week. Don’t worry about the vehicle – he cannot, by Law, take it from you and, if he stops making payments, it takes a LONG time for a vehicle to be repossessed. Avoid trying to predict what’s going to happen – attempts to predict only entertain our very worst fears.
Radar,
As long as you are financially bound (co-signer ) to the dipshit, he will be able to twist and manipulate you.
I am not sure of your situation but if you cant get the car loan and title in your own name then I would give it back to dipshit, otherwise he has a hook that prevents you from moving on and staying no contact..And no that is not fair but nothing is when it comes to dipshits..count your loss’es and get out and get on with a new life without the dipshit..
just my opinion.