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“He is the lie, from hello to good-bye”

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March 26, 2008 //  by DrSteve

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Donna Anderson’s important latest post reminds me that one topic which will never be worn out is that of the psychopath’s lies and their impact on others.

This week I want to very briefly introduce yet another take on this inexhaustible topic. Everyone lies, but there’s something else at stake in the case of the psychopath’s lies.

To illustrate: you might say about any regular (non-psychopathic) person, “Things would be better if s/he was to lie less often. Her/his soul or psyche would be healthier as would her relationships.” That’s true. Now try this on for size and notice how wrong it seems: “Things would be better if the psychopath was to lie less often. His soul or psyche would be healthier as would his relationships.”

Weirdly, this is patently not the case. The psychopath will be just as sick/evil no matter how many or how few lies he tells. It’s not a quantitative but a qualitative matter.

It is commonly said that a defining characteristic of psychopaths is that they are pathological liars. This is right if you mean that they are profoundly dishonest and not to be trusted. It does not mean, though, that psychopaths lie a lot. They do lie a lot and those lies cause havoc. But as I hope my illustration above shows, lying less will not make them better people.

So, how does this work? The thing about psychopaths is that even their truths are lies! Or rather, whether or not they happen to be telling the truth or a lie at any particular moment is not what makes them psychopathic. What makes them psychopathic is that they use and destroy people; truth or lies are for them just so many weapons for pursuing their prey.

M.L. Gallagher said a lot when she wrote this:

He is the lie….

From hello to good-bye. I love you to I hate you. You’re beautiful to you’re ugly.
It was all a lie….

When friends or my family ask, but what about this, or what about that, I tell them. It was all a lie. There was no truth in him.

If I spend my time trying to figure out fact from fiction, all I am doing is trying to prove I wasn’t so stupid. See, this was true. That’s why I fell in love with him.

Truth is. I fell in love with him because I believed his lie.

When I discovered the truth, I was so enmeshed in his lie, I couldn’t find the truth in me. And so I sank.

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Ox Drover
14 years ago

Dear EDEN,

4 months! FOUR MONTHS!!!! FOUUUUUUR MONTHS!!!
Try four DECADES!
ROTFLMAO LOL ROTFLMAO SNORT CHOKE SNARF LOL PITH MY PANTS! LOL

Whew—okay, now that I have composed myself.

It takes a while WHILE to get your immune system back in check and for all the rashes, immune system crap outs and INSANITY back on track….I’m still working on it. The HITS just keep on coming but it is slowing down—I am doing better! I’ll keep on doing better! But don’t put the rush on anything…..it takes TIME and more time. You can’t get a baby in 1 month by getting 9 women preggers! It still takes 9 months to get a baby! PATIENCE!!!! AND I WANT IT RIGHT NOW!!!!! LOL

lesson learned
14 years ago

Eden,

YOU GO GIRL!! FOUR MONTHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**THROWING CONFETTI AND BALLOONS!!
YOU GO GIRL, YOU GO GO GO GO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YAY FOUR MONTHS!!!!

YOU GO GIRL, YOU GO GO GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LL

lesson learned
14 years ago

Eden,

We need to stop Oxy’s SNORT, CHOKE, SNARF!

BOINK!!

LOL!!

OMG where would we BE WITHOUT HER HERE and that STUPID EFFING HEAVY DUTY FRYING PAN!!

**just between you and me, my eldest son reads the blog and he loves Ox’s skillet over my head…and he’s a chef, he gets it**

**Sigh**

LL

LL

hens
14 years ago

Ox you are just full of something aint ya… :~>

Ox Drover
14 years ago

Yea, I’m full of it and I’m going to bed now you guys. Have a happy time tonight! I’m yawning and can hardly keep my eyes open. Hope I don’t have another “theme” dream again tonight were I’m trying to rescue something helpless from wolves or a raging bull or something! I’m getting tired of saving the world, it’s time someone else does that for a while! LOL G’nite you guys! Love Oxy

hens
14 years ago

oh silvermoon I know I know…..forgive me, it’s like reflux – come’s and goes….

Goodnite Oxy sleepwell because we have Charlie Sheen to save the world now – he is so awesome – puke puke puke – maybe you will dream of charlie and lilo having nine babies in one month…..

Eden
14 years ago

Thank you, OX and LL… Hello there, Hens! What up?

LL, thank you for the celebration.

Ox, I need you to tell me that since I was only in the relationship for 9.5 months, that the aftermath will be ending soo, K??

Love, E

PS: Sweet Dreams, and God Bless!

hens
14 years ago

Hello Eden Ox is asleep so I will tell you the aftermath will end – I promise…probably not as quick as you would like but these life lesson’s have to be learned so we dont repeat them…hugz

Eden
14 years ago

Thank you so much, Hens. I appreciate your warm words. This is the biggest, most intense life lesson that I have ever had to learn, and has packed a wallop of a punch!

I’m done learning now… Can you make it go away?

Thanks!

Eden

hens
14 years ago

Eden I don’t think it goes away. If it did then that would mean we have not learned anything. Yes it is intense, the pain does go away just not the lesson. That’s what you get with a education – now look under your chair for your Bozo certificate..

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