By Sarah Strudwick
Sarah Strudwick, based in the UK, is author of Dark Souls—Healing and recovering from toxic relationships.
For the three years since I broke up with the psychopathic ex I have remained single. I’ve met a few wannabe boyfriends, but unfortunately they have turned out to be disordered, so I never took it past the going for a coffee stage. Like many other victims, I’ve focused on my own recovery and have even written a couple of books on it to help other women.
During the time I was dating this man, whom I call “Oliver” in the book, I was also friends with another man. We had met long before on a dating site but never consummated the relationship (i.e. had sex), and had just stayed in contact as friends. There was just something I didn’t feel comfortable with.
Every time I was single or on a breakup from the psychopathic ex, this man (We’ll call him “Lurch” for want of a better word) would miraculously appear out of nowhere and try and rekindle our friendship. In the past he declared his undying love for me, but has a long history of failed relationships with women and an even longer track record of past drug abuse.
The last time we spoke was about three years ago when he tried to rekindle the relationship. I told him to go and sort himself out and got a long email from him saying he was planning on getting off the weed, stopping drinking and was going to move overseas and become a teacher after he finished his university degree.
Apart from a brief couple of emails from him, where he bragged about this new relationship he was in and how “sorted” he was, I’ve not really heard from him and have avoided all contact. Up until now ”¦
They always turn up again like a bad penny
Just before Xmas, Lurch contacted me saying he was returning from overseas and that he had been on many temple retreats and “sorted” his head. He said he had stopped drinking and was no longer smoking pot, and had had this epiphany moment where he realised he wanted to stop being an “asshole” and a “bastard” and settle down.
I know that people can change. Despite bumping into a few disordered people over the last couple of years, there was a big part of me that didn’t want to end up as cynical old woman who thought all men were either psychopathic or had some kind of character disturbance.
Lurch is a very charming character. He’s funny, somewhat sarcastic and intelligent, but at the same time he has lots of “issues,” all of which he had promised he’d sorted out.
Lurch sent me an email saying he wanted to meet me over Xmas and New Year and start a relationship. In my efforts not to be this horrible old cynical cow, I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt and meet up with him, albeit it very tentatively.
The big meeting
The night before he was on the telephone saying how much he was looking forward to coming up the following day. Lurch said he had originally planned to come early. He was planning on visiting two women he had known from about 15 years earlier, and was going to spend New Year with them and a bunch of other friends.
The morning he was meant to come up I received a text message saying he wasn’t going to leave until I texted my postcode. I was surprised that he hadn’t even got in the car at this point and so I called him, apologising for not answering his text sooner. He said he would jump in the shower and be there as soon as possible.
Six hours later he finally arrived.
Red Flag One — Putting others down
He explained that he had planned on seeing this other friend, but that she had “blown him out.” That’s a British colloquial term for being stood up. He said that he was delighted that she had blown him out because it meant he didn’t have to fork out for a ton of petrol money. He also talked about another one of his ex-girlfriends saying she was crazy. He compared to having sex with another one as “shagging a wet fish.” He also talked about another girl whom he had met overseas and said “she was boring as f**k, I felt like a walking dictionary.” The final insult came when he talked about another woman saying, “She has the biggest Konk (nose) on her he has ever seen.” He described his sister as a “flying mattress.”
Red Flag Two – Stalking
I have two brothers, and I have been estranged from my eldest brother for a number of years, after having therapy and realising that he’s not so healthy. Lurch explained that he had asked my brother to build a website for him. Lurch then went onto to say that my brother managed to rip him off for thousands of pounds by building a website that was no good. I asked to see the evidence, and was surprised that he was actually telling the truth for once. I was also surprised that he had got my brother to do the site, out of the thousands of people whom he could have contacted.
He then went on to say that he had gone to “great lengths” to try and track me down, because my phone number had been changed. He also mentioned how jealous he was when I was going out with the pathological ex.
Red Flag Three — Gut Feeling kicks in
During the five years I was with Oliver, I suffered from extreme cluster migraines. Now I have stopped taking the prescription pills I was put on for nearly 5 years, and very occasionally have a migraine. That evening my head started to spin and I could also feel this very big knot in my stomach, but couldn’t understand why.
After talking about my brother I decided to call my younger brother, who I still have contact with. Having grown up with pathology in the family, both of us had had tons of therapy and share our new found knowledge if we get a sense that something is wrong. After explaining to him what our older brother had done to Lurch, he suggested we both come round and see him.
Red Flag Four — Bragging, putting other people down, objectification and more stalking behaviour
The moment Lurch met my brother and his girlfriend, he started bragging about all of his accomplishments. My brother asked him what he did overseas, and he explained that he was fed up of being with people from Korea. He said he just did the job for the money and hated every day of it. He liked to “take the piss” out of the students who didn’t understand what he was saying because they couldn’t understand English properly. He then went on to “brag” about how he used to be a bastard and a nasty piece of work, but how sorted he was because he no longer took coke, ecstasy and pills. He said he only drank occasionally, but bragged about what a good laugh he was when he was pissed up (drunk) and how everyone liked him.
When my brother asked him why he hadn’t confronted our eldest brother about ripping him off for a bad website, his reply was, “In the old days I would have gone round and bashed his head in with a baseball bat” but “I’ve done enough work on myself and lots of temple retreats to calm my anger.”
When he pulled out his laptop to show my brother all the invoices for the payments he made, I was shocked to see that his screen saver was a somewhat saucy photograph of me! At which point he hurriedly tried to hide it, but was laughing. I asked him where he had found that picture of me and he said, “It’s amazing what stuff you can find on the internet.”
Red Flag Five — The flattery, projection and love bombing
We arranged to go and have a meal. On the way we collected his bags from his car, as he planned on leaving that night to stay with friends. He gave me a box of Thornton’s chocolates (unwrapped), which in hindsight, was probably meant for the woman who had “blown him out.” He described my eldest brother, who had ripped him off, as being an “oxygen thief.” This was kind of interesting, considering how Lurch behaved with others. Lurch again reiterated how tired he was of being around people that lied to him.
On arrival at the restaurant, he kept saying how wonderful it was to see me again. How he missed my upbeat, fun personality, and that he had never laughed as much as that in nearly three years.
Red Flag six — The deer in the headlights
It was this point, I had what can only be described as a “deer in the headlights” moment. Although I knew something was clearly wrong long before the dinner, and I wanted to run, I felt frozen and couldn’t move. Coming from a childhood background of sexual abuse, I’ve discussed this a lot in therapy. Many targets want to do “something,” but feel powerless. After suggesting it was time to go home we left the restaurant and he went onto his other engagements.
Red Flag seven — Love Bombing and mirroring
That night I couldn’t sleep, and left my mobile in the kitchen overnight. The following morning I awoke to six or seven texts that said, “Anyway you are still ravishing, very sexy, but most of all you still have your hot wonderful personality which I have missed badly.” Then a load more texts including how he wanted to “give me long hot slow sensual massages and how much his ex hated having them and how he hoped I liked having massages.” He then sent texts saying how alike we were. I mentioned I hadn’t slept well the night before because of restless legs and snoring, and he called us a “perfect match.”
Red Flag Eight — Ignoring, shifting the goal posts, minimizing, the silent treatment, devalue and discard
I texted him the following day, asking what time was he planning on coming and he replied with a question. A few hours later, after no response, the same thing happened. He said he would be coming in the evening of the 1st, although previously he said he was coming in the morning. He wouldn’t respond to any calls, at which point my gut feeling said run away as quickly as possible.
My brother called me up on New Years Day and I told him that I’d felt uncomfortable around Lurch. I asked him if he thought I might be imagining it. His response was that both he and his girlfriend felt very uncomfortable around him. He described Lurch as cocky, arrogant and full of himself, and both he and his girlfriend were “creeped out” by him and he thought he was dangerous.
More silent treatment continued and I finally plucked up the courage to tell him I didn’t feel comfortable seeing him again. To which I got a final childish message back saying, “bye, your loss, bye,” then another saying “You fucked it up. You need to heal more and do a temple stay.”
Red Flag Nine — Devalue and Disregard, Grandiosity, Rendering me Silent, Crazy Making
The next day I was surprised to get yet another text from him, as if nothing had happened!
There was no apology, no explaining why he couldn’t answer his phone for two days to firm up our plans. The text said he “hadn’t left yet and could drop by and see me on his way back down south.” At this point I called him. No answer. No response.
He finally answered his phone and I expressed concerns about his behaviour, using the silent treatment and so on. He listened with the utmost calm. There was no apology, no concern that I had been upset and in fact at one point he laughed at me and put me on speakerphone. I realised that there was no point in getting angry or upset. He wanted me to act upset so his friends could see that I was the crazy one. He had the same calmness and flat effect my psychopathic ex displayed when called out in a lie. Then he suddenly said, “I’m not talking to you,” and hung up.
During the whole conversation, he called me “Lisa.”
After rendering me silent because he hung up I sent him a text. I said there was no point in seeing him, since he wasn’t prepared to answer his phone. Nor was there any point in discussing anything if he was going to hang up like a five-year-old. I received a whole lot of texts back, which included how much of an “enlightened being he was” was, how he was of a “higher consciousness,” and that I should go and have some therapy about my trust issues. After I calmed down I read back his texts, I realised that much of what he said was complete projection.
At which point I finally found my power again and told him not to contact me and to kindly f*ck off.
He continued to send multiple texts, saying it was my fault because I had “f*cked up,” in between sending other texts saying what a shame because he would “Go to the ends of the earth for me.” I finally received one more text from him, which said, “Wanna last try?” I thought to myself, “Wanna last try at what.” Text ping pong.
Escaping quickly
He had relentlessly pursued me over the last couple of years, finding pictures of me on the internet, sending me multiple emails, and was quite miffed because I was the only woman that had never slept with him. I realised that the “relationshit” that never was, was now over, thankfully.
Although I had a very upset stomach and migraine after all the head games he’d played, I realised that if you have the right tools, it doesn’t have to take years or months after giving someone the benefit of the doubt before you see the light and discover that they are disordered, whatever his label is.
No matter how upset they make you, or however vulnerable you feel in their attempts to disarm you emotionally, it is possible to escape very quickly with minimal harm.
I read that many victims of borderlines end up having long term health problems such as colon disorders and migraines. With a history of Chrohn’s, which stopped after my last relationship, this was firm reminder to listen to my own body whenever my intuition screams run!
For all the flattery, love bombing, mirroring, mind games, gas lighting and silent treatment, it was also a stern reminder at how someone who proclaims they want to be with you can quickly can turn around, to the point where you are discarded like a piece of dog doo.
So on a positive note, remember it’s easy to “speed date a sociopath” by standing back and observing their behaviour. It took me exactly three days to figure it out.
I also learned that, whilst I might still have trust issues, I was thankful to Lurch for stepping in to remind me exactly what I do NOT want in a relationship ever again.
Louise, one of the HALLMARKS of BPD and PPD people is that the very MINUTE THEY MEET YOU, they want to BE YOUR BEST FRIEND, and Want to know what they can DO FOR YOU right then.
When I meet someone who immediately wants to be my “best friend” and do things for me, I BACK OFF IMMEDIATELY and watch them. Most of the time it doesn’t take long to see that they are personality disordered in some way.
Now, “just nice” people may also come on too strong, too fast and I may find later that these “just nice” people REALLY ARE “JUST NICE” but that coming on too quickly is a RED FLAG.
BBE you are right about the self harm (cutting etc) is almost a diagnostic spot light, and I have only known one male who self cut though I am sure there must be others. The “labels” BPD and PPD etc. on the “Cluster B’s” are very difficult to draw lines between the different disorders. As for there being a high percentage of PDs among gay and bi-sexual groups, I agree. And there is a high percentage of PD people who ALSO have BI-POLAR, and ADHD as well. Interestingly people with PPD’s are a higher number of left handedness tan would be normally expected as well.
In some ways I think possibly that BPD is the “female version” of PPD and maybe the hormones make a difference in the slightly different behaviors.
It is NOT UNUSUAL though for two people BOTH WITH PERSONALITY DISORDERS to “hook up” and I call it “gasoline and fire” because it is GOING TO EXPLODE EVENTUALLY.
When it explodes, the loser will present themselves as “the VICTIM” when in fact they are a CO-abuser who lost the fight with their last partner. It is difficult to decide who is a “true” victim in my opinion versus a PD who lost in the last fight.
I think in any case, we must be cautious in giving our TRUST to people. Trust should be EARNED over a long period of time, not instantly given.
Louise, you may be right, and I would wish that you don’t stop being “too nice” since this is your genuine nature.
In my past men who were “too nice” or too complimentary always wanted something in the end game. Power. Control. Money. Sex. Material things. You know the game.
I now surround myself only with people who are genuine and compassionate. I have cut loose a lot of people in my life, including some women friends that I have had for many years.
I try to listen to my “gut” and how a person makes me feel, and to listen carefully not only to what they say, but what they don’t say. It’s a process, and I’m still learning.
Oxy:
I know what you are talking about when you describe someone who wants to be your best friend right off the bat, etc.! I have also encountered those types and you have to be leery. As a matter of fact, looking back to 2005 when I first met OW in the new department I was transferred to at work, that is how she came on…interesting, isn’t it??? But I am NOT like that. I don’t push myself on people and want to become their best friend. I am just genuine. I think that does put some people off though because I think in general and this is only my opinion, but I think in general people are not nice; people are downright nasty to be honest. So when people meet someone like me who is nice, they are not used to that…it makes them take a step back I think.
peggywhoever:
Well, you are right…I guess I really can’t stop who I am.
Exactly! I think when people are nice, we think they want something from us. This was certainly the case with spath…he was only communicating with me when he wanted something…whatever that something was at the moment. I just had another lightbulb moment!…that is why I didn’t see his niceness as a red flag. Because I am “nice,” I don’t see that as a red flag when someone else is. It’s the same when someone is a liar and cheat…they think everyone is like them…a liar and cheat. Hmmmm, I am having a lot of aha! moments today.
I have also let a few women friends go recently for the same reasons. I think it’s great we are learning and no longer in the dark!!
Louise;
Good for you! Fairmont Hotels are all very nice and the ones in Canada are spectacular! I have been to the Rene Elizabeth, Chateau Frontenac, and Empress.
You should have gone here!
http://www.fairmont.com/lake-louise/
Louise, once when my son D and I went to visit Patrick, Patrick was trying to manipulate D and while I was gone to the rest room Patrick looked at D and said “I KNOW YOU, You’re just like I am” and was FURIOUS that he could not manipulate Son D…the psychopaths think that We are just like them. Because they can NOT understand what we feel, and actually they not only don’t understand, the don’t care…they are out to get all they can from us and they figure we are out to get from them as well…
We, on the other hand CARE and we figure everyone else CARES LIKE WE DO…so we get stung when we are WRONG and the other person does NOT care. LOL
BBE:
Thank you! I am going to the Fairmont Chateau in Whistler…almost the same as Lake Louise from the pictures I have seen! Such beauty! Wow. I have never been to Canada. I hope the flights are OK and not too long. I am glad you have experienced these.
Oxy:
You got it! That’s exactly how they think! Boy, do we ever get stung when we realize they do not care the way we do. It takes a long time to accept.
Ox;
I agree 100%. There is such a blur among Cluster-B personality disorders even trained professional often cannot make a proper diagnosis. Comorbidity is high with other problems such as depression and bipolar disorder.
I forgot, the guy I dated after the spath was also a BPD. He was a cutter. Perfect bookends: a BPD, a Spath, a BPD…
The cutter x-BPD was very typical in latching. He was in love with me after one date and did not want to let go even after I told him that he was not right for me. Like the other two, he was a smoker and heavy drinker. All three came from troubled backgrounds.
I completely agree that BPD can be viewed as the female expression of Sociopathy, probably due to hormonal differences. This is also why of male BPDs, perhaps half are gay (and that is just those who admit such in studies) as gay males are very interesting. While in many ways they are hyper-masculine (very sexual, larger genitalia, ) they can also be very “feminine” as shown by camp behavior, fashion obsessions and preferences for female singers. This is furthered by studies showing gay men and straight women have, on average, equally proportioned brain hemispheres. Lesbian women and straight men have, on average, slightly larger right brain hemispheres.
I am a gay male and obviously support all efforts of equality and acceptance. However, in a politically correct over-reaction to past discriminations, I think the mental health profession has done the gay community a disservice. We are not “normal” people with a same-sex preference.
We are a group of people with a much, much larger set of psychological issues than the general population. In the past, this was considered a result of discrimination, shame, childhood bullying and such. However, recent studies show that among gays, the highest level of mental health issues are in the most open and accepting countries, not the least. My personal dating experience agrees with such: the most functional gay men I have dated came from repressive countries, for example, Lebanon and Russia.
Given the very high levels of Cluster-B personality disorders among gay men, I suggest that homosexuality might very well be a Cluster-B disorder, at least among gay men. Further evidence is the continued high rate of HIV infections among gay men…
Yea, Louise, I can remember thinking when Patrick was a 17 yr old teenager trying to get into prison “If I could just open a hole in his skull and pour in what I am trying to say so he would get it, everything would be okay”
I just kept trying to get across to him if he had a criminal record it would RUIN his chances for a career, life, etc. and I wanted….I WANTED….him to have a career and a college education and so on…I WANTED. the **I** wanted part is the problem, HE did not want for himself what I wanted for him. He wanted “excitement” and the “adrenaline rush” he got from RISK TAKING…he wasn’t willing to WAIT and get his adrenaline rushes LEGALLY and legitimately. He wanted them NOW, and the way HE WANTED, not what I wanted. He really SHOWED ME that I could not control him didn’t he? FIXED ME! spent 23+ years of his life in prison, more than half.
Spent 2 years in prison from 18-20, got out and 5 months later back in for murder in January 1992—he will be 42 in march, and he has spent 23 + years of his life in prison..almost 55% of his ENTIRE life and 96% of his adult life in prison. and has spent 100% of his ADULT life on probation, parole or in prison. And still has not followed the rules of any of it.