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Is this person a jerk, a narcissist or a sociopath?

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October 24, 2008 //  by Liane Leedom, M.D.//  161 Comments

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I do my best to read all of the comments on lovefraud.com because I think they are a good barometer as to what people are thinking and questioning. One recent theme/question has been the issue of the realm of jerkdom. Just what is a jerk?

Merriam-Webster’s online dictionary defines a jerk as an annoyingly stupid or foolish person b: an unlikable person ; especially one who is cruel, rude, or small-minded. But how would a psychologist approach answering this question?

Psychologists studying personality tend to fall into two categories, with members of the first category being far more numerous. The first category of psychologists is composed of trait psychologists. A trait psychologist is someone who studies personality by looking at traits. Traits are words, primarily adjectives that are used to describe people.

The dictionary says jerks are foolish, unlikeable, rude, cruel and small minded. We might take the process further and ask everyone reading this to list adjectives describing jerks. We would then find jerks and make our own determination as to whether or not the adjectives describe them.

This trait approach is similar to that used to identify sociopaths and narcissists. This process allows us to put people in a category. So with this approach, we could find traits that differentiate between jerks, narcissists an sociopaths. Most of us think of traits when we think about people and personality.

There is another way to look at people and personality that considers motives rather than traits. Although the fundamental motives of love, power and achievement exist in all people there are individual differences in the degree to which these motives rule a person.

A motive psychologist might say that a jerk is someone with too little love motivation and too much power motivation. But then that also describes a sociopath and a narcissist. Aren’t motives after all more basic than traits? If you are interacting with someone, aren’t you most interested in understanding that person’s motives as opposed to observing their traits?

Consider the following letter we received this week:

There are certain things about my daughter-in-law that I just don’t understand. I am not a psychologist so I don’t know for fact what is wrong with her.

She and my son had a rocky relationship before marriage. She was pulling him away from his best friend but was herself going to spend time with the guy after she dropped my son off at work. She played them off of each other until they just went their separate ways. It was always his best friends fault.

This is what truly hurts me….. after she married my son they lived with my husband and I. We worked long hours and came home to a mess. She and my son neither one worked but expected us to clean up after her. She would cook and I was to play maid. When this didn’t go over she belittled me. She asked to talk to me privately. There wasn’t one thing about me she liked. She told me that she was tired of fighting for my sons attention. They moved out to my relief. I took what she said to heart and didn’t contact my son for anything. I left it to him to contact me if he needed me. This hurt him even though I explained I didn’t want to come in between them.

They had a beautiful daughter and she uses her against us at every turn. We have gotten used to it and don’t let her get satisfaction from it any more. She has planted pills on the floor of my mother-in-law’s home to make it look like her home isn’t safe. She has done that scam twice. She has told my other daughter-in-law that she is only with my son because he puts up with things other men wouldn’t. She has admitted to sleeping with other men but made it out to my son that she was made to share a blanket. I am truly worried for my son and his daughter. She is such a good liar. Oh by the way she makes it out as if she is the only person capable of watching my granddaughter. At my grandma’s funeral she became angry with my son for not catching the baby before she put chalk in her mouth. but then she didn’t catch her stick a holly berry in her mouth and that was ok. She was too busy flirting with my son’s cousin who btw is working on his masters”¦

Am I a paranoid mother and grandmother that just needs to continue watching people she loves be hurt? Or is there maybe something to this behavior?

What do you think?

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  1. bird

    October 27, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    good ideas here today! Nanny cams and recorders. I am all over that one just in case I get another visit! Why didn’t I think of that before. What a great idea. Of course if it shows him doing us in, what good will it be?

    Isn’t the news about that reporter being killed in the middle of the night horrible? She was targeted, I wonder who was stalking her?

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  2. Stargazer

    October 27, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    Indigo,
    It is very common for sociopaths to be drug addicted. They have a painful emptiness inside that they can never fill. You know how we feel connections with others, and how important that is in our lives? How much it occupies our thoughts and dictates our actions? Well the sociopath has NONE of that. So what does he have to occupy his thoughts with? He (or she)lives in a one-dimensional world with not depth, no feeling, no connection to others. So there are the games they play. They are constantly scheming. Other than that, they are painfully bored. They can never fill the boredom with meaningful activities. Now that I think of it, my ex must have been addicted to all the pain killers he was taking for his alleged head injury, too. The first time I ever spoke to him (by phone) he was telling me how bored he was.

    BTW, Indigo, there is a very beautiful snake called the indigo snake. I saw one at the last reptile show and was knocked out by its beauty. It is black with a blue irridescence (sp).

    And Dear God, may I NEVER meet a malignant narcissist sociopath! I can usually spot a narcissist, though, and I’m quite put off by them. But the sociopath took me totally by surprise. I had never seen anything like that before!

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  3. Indigoblue

    October 27, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    Star

    Hence the name !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Duh :)~

    Back in the day A friend of mine walked down my Driveway and sold me an 8 foot 3 inch INDIGO it was a record breaker and It wanted nothing to do with being a pet !!!! It would raise up three feet and HISSSSSSS at me I kept it for a couple of days and returned it to it’s home in the wild I sure wish I had taken Pics DAM! :)~

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  4. Stargazer

    October 27, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    Indigo,
    I have only seen one indigo snake–the one at the Rocky Mountain Reptile Expo–and it was one of the most beautiful creatures I’ve ever seen. Good choice of user names you have. I tried very hard to go to Daytona this year, but didn’t make it. In fact the S and I had planned to go together (thank God THAT didn’t happen). Maybe next year.

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  5. Indigoblue

    October 27, 2008 at 9:56 pm

    Yeah it is a Great show I think the largest in the country

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  6. Stargazer

    October 27, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    Indigo,
    If you have the time and the inclination, I warmly invite you to drop in to redtailboa.net . Look for my thread called “Your Veronica Fix”. Veronica is my precious BCI and is a very famous and beloved snake on the site!

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  7. Indigoblue

    October 27, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    My 12 foot Albino burmeses was named Precious from JRR tolken The Hobbit ! :)~

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  8. Wini

    October 27, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    Indigo & StarG: Interesting conversation you two have going (LOL) … put sugar down where you don’t want insects. Kills them instantly … the crystals of the sugar are like razor blades.

    Peace.

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  9. Gemini_Fairy

    October 27, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    Oh My precious! That’s what I say when I see McCain take the stage. Oh, I’m sorry if I’ve offended any one. I can tend to be a touch sarcastic at times.

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  10. Stargazer

    October 27, 2008 at 10:08 pm

    Sugar kills insects? That’s a new one. I thought it attracts ants, which I sometimes get here. I heard cinnamon repels ants (I guess you never know which direction a blog will go…………I’m famous for hijacking threads over on my other site. LOL).

    GemF, I love the sarcasm and concur with your comment! 🙂

    Indigo, we have a member on RTB who has a large retic named Precious.

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