I do my best to read all of the comments on lovefraud.com because I think they are a good barometer as to what people are thinking and questioning. One recent theme/question has been the issue of the realm of jerkdom. Just what is a jerk?
Merriam-Webster’s online dictionary defines a jerk as an annoyingly stupid or foolish person b: an unlikable person ; especially one who is cruel, rude, or small-minded. But how would a psychologist approach answering this question?
Psychologists studying personality tend to fall into two categories, with members of the first category being far more numerous. The first category of psychologists is composed of trait psychologists. A trait psychologist is someone who studies personality by looking at traits. Traits are words, primarily adjectives that are used to describe people.
The dictionary says jerks are foolish, unlikeable, rude, cruel and small minded. We might take the process further and ask everyone reading this to list adjectives describing jerks. We would then find jerks and make our own determination as to whether or not the adjectives describe them.
This trait approach is similar to that used to identify sociopaths and narcissists. This process allows us to put people in a category. So with this approach, we could find traits that differentiate between jerks, narcissists an sociopaths. Most of us think of traits when we think about people and personality.
There is another way to look at people and personality that considers motives rather than traits. Although the fundamental motives of love, power and achievement exist in all people there are individual differences in the degree to which these motives rule a person.
A motive psychologist might say that a jerk is someone with too little love motivation and too much power motivation. But then that also describes a sociopath and a narcissist. Aren’t motives after all more basic than traits? If you are interacting with someone, aren’t you most interested in understanding that person’s motives as opposed to observing their traits?
Consider the following letter we received this week:
There are certain things about my daughter-in-law that I just don’t understand. I am not a psychologist so I don’t know for fact what is wrong with her.
She and my son had a rocky relationship before marriage. She was pulling him away from his best friend but was herself going to spend time with the guy after she dropped my son off at work. She played them off of each other until they just went their separate ways. It was always his best friends fault.
This is what truly hurts me….. after she married my son they lived with my husband and I. We worked long hours and came home to a mess. She and my son neither one worked but expected us to clean up after her. She would cook and I was to play maid. When this didn’t go over she belittled me. She asked to talk to me privately. There wasn’t one thing about me she liked. She told me that she was tired of fighting for my sons attention. They moved out to my relief. I took what she said to heart and didn’t contact my son for anything. I left it to him to contact me if he needed me. This hurt him even though I explained I didn’t want to come in between them.
They had a beautiful daughter and she uses her against us at every turn. We have gotten used to it and don’t let her get satisfaction from it any more. She has planted pills on the floor of my mother-in-law’s home to make it look like her home isn’t safe. She has done that scam twice. She has told my other daughter-in-law that she is only with my son because he puts up with things other men wouldn’t. She has admitted to sleeping with other men but made it out to my son that she was made to share a blanket. I am truly worried for my son and his daughter. She is such a good liar. Oh by the way she makes it out as if she is the only person capable of watching my granddaughter. At my grandma’s funeral she became angry with my son for not catching the baby before she put chalk in her mouth. but then she didn’t catch her stick a holly berry in her mouth and that was ok. She was too busy flirting with my son’s cousin who btw is working on his masters”¦
Am I a paranoid mother and grandmother that just needs to continue watching people she loves be hurt? Or is there maybe something to this behavior?
What do you think?
southernman42: Indigoblue had me look for his profile and in order for me to do that, I had to log in and assign myself a profile … which, I am assuming if I did it right it should be Wini.
I’m not sure, no one’s written me yet … so if you want to search for Wini and you find it, write … then I’ll write you back (LOL). That goes for Indigoblue too – who still has his profile blocked …!!!
Peace.
Wini.. there are over 200 “Wini’s” on myspace… On your page there will be a url.. example.. http://www.myspace/southernman429
Need the url to get to your page.
southernman429: If that’s your profile, I’ll write you … and then you can tell me what my profile is (LOL).
Gee wini… it’s so easy …..lol…. yes.. that is my page… before you know it.. you’ll be a queen bee at myspace.. complete with a custom background and images and blogs and 100’s of friends…
Wini.. you have to write me from your myspace page.
correction. http://www.myspace.com/southernman429
southernman429: I suspect that you are correct … I will write as soon as I finish this debate I’ve got going ….
Peace.
Who would be dumb or brave enough to debate you wini?…….lol
southernman429: I don’t mind a good debate, just tell me how you got to the bottom line?
Peace.
today is a bad day for me. its been awhile since ive had a bad day. i need my fellow lovefrauders support bc i have no one to vent to that even understands this stuff.
last night i went to a halloween party of a co-worker that is a mutual friend of the x. the x was not there thank god but to make a long story short i ended up seeing this picture of the x with the other women and everyone else who i used to hang with when i was with the x. it was like killing to my chest. its not like i didt know they were together but to see it was different.
i’m so angry that i ever dated him, i hate him, i hate myself. i wish i never knew him. he is such a horrible person. seein the pic i just felt so betrayed. the pic was taking when he went on vacation which he said he didt take her but he really did. this was at the point where we just broke up but i was still talking to him and he said oh i need to get away and clear my head. HA what a joke! i feel like for the rest of my life he will bug me. he will make up stories about me to other people. he will make me look bad to people im friends with by saying we talk or hang out when we dont at all. GOD I HATE HIM
i think i need to change my phone number so he can never call ever again, even if its once a month. i dont ever want it. i dont answer now but i dont even want him to know anything about me. im just so fed up with the way this eats at me inside. how i feel like i just dont fit in, fed up with his lies about me behind my back. feeling like everyone was just my friend when i was with him and now there friends with her..makes me puke.