Editor’s note: Lovefraud received the following from the Lovefraud reader who posts as NewLife43.
I not only read Lovefraud to help me with the backlash from my 8-year relationship with my spath. I also read an interesting blog written by and for sociopaths, answering some of their questions, presenting criteria about what makes a sociopath what s/he is. It’s very enlightening, particularly when I am sorely missing my ex-spath and need to remind myself why we are no longer together. Since it’s on the Internet, the spaths are surprisingly honest. Sometimes, the posts can be very chilling, when they are honestly posting about the way they think, causing a shiver to run down my spine that I escaped from such trauma. It helps me to have gratitude and a sense of good fortune I am no longer caught up in that mess. And I stop missing him, which was the whole point of reading the site.
An interesting question that came up on their board was: Do animals have a sense of morality?
This question was derived from one of the spaths reading an article that was printed in the British online publication, The Telegraph. That article was entitled, Animals can tell right from wrong.
One of the spath responses to the article was that of course, evolution played a HUGE part in our human abilities to be empathetic and moral, citing dolphins, great apes and even elephants as being altruistic and helpful to other members of their flock, pack, herd, etc. with no apparent gain to themselves. They can even be helpful to other species. (For instance, dolphins protecting humans from sharks). But of course, sociopaths missed the boat when it came to empathy.
Another of the respondents said that cats were probably psychopathic. I beg to differ and told them so. Here is my response to the sociopath article:
Over the years, I’ve had several cats. Currently, I have a two-year-old little guy, who I can honestly say is sociopathic, intent only on himself and what I can do for him. He derives great pleasure from me, but shows no emotion or feelings back to me unless it can benefit him in some way. Then he can charm the pants off me. He is a great troublemaker to boot and plagues everyone in the household (animals included) with his actions! Lots of fights are started by this little cat, while he walks away smirking. Very smart, easily bored, destroys household items for the fun of it and targets others. He doesn’t have an altruistic bone in his body. HMMM…sounds sociopathic to me! He gets thrown outside A LOT but never seems to learn from the consequences of his bad behavior. Sigh!
I have another cat, whom I’ve had for 18 years; she wants to know the rules and not only follows them to a “T” but expects all the other cats in the household to follow them also…or she will beat the “carp” out of them. Routines are to be observed at all costs. She has to be let in and out at certain times, food and water have to be fresh and put down on a certain schedule, etc. Although she is very reserved, she can also be very loving on rare occasions (funnily enough, to me only, I suppose as the main caregiver), but it is genuine, as she never wastes time with false emotions. She is honest through and through. Definitely OCD, though, don’t you think? Think “Monk” here.
Finally, I have a very sweet, loving black cat who is 13 years old. His sole purpose in life is to find a way to spend all his time with me. If I sit down, he is in my lap; going to bed, he not only wants to sleep with me but also has to be as close as he can, preferably touching my skin in some way. He always stops and thanks me for his food, before he dives in to eat. Follows me everywhere. And he is incredibly empathetic, always knowing when I am sad and offering comfort to the best of his ability. My friends marvel at this loyal little cat, who pesters them to go home at the end of the evening, so that we can go to bed together! Apparently, he can’t go to bed without me. One friend said he was worse than her husband! No other creature in the world has ever loved me like this, including my kids and two ex-husbands. And I don’t treat him any differently than my other cats, so I don’t know why I deserve so much love. Empath, borderline…I don’t know. I just know he loves me very much and shows it. And he was born that way.
So, no, not all cats are sociopaths. But from my experience, I would have to say, all have different personality disorders/traits, just like humans. Certainly completely different from each other. Since I treat them all the same, I have to conclude that they are the product of their genetics, i.e., they came to me that way, I didn’t make them the way they are. Just like the world is not environmentally responsible for creating sociopaths; you were all born that way, and there is nothing we “NORMALS” can do about it, except to stay as far away from you as possible, for our own sakes. Surely, you spaths can understand self-protection and putting ourselves ahead of you. For once. And if you lack the ability to understand that, well, as my ex-spath was so fond of saying to me, “I DON’T CARE!” 🙂
RCG, I’m glad that you are doing better (from the sound of your post) I hope your wife will heal herself as well….we start out learning about them, but in the end is is about ourselves.
You don’t have to be a door mat because she volunteered to be a victim…just as I volunteered and Moon Dancer did as well. It was our own needs to be loved by them that they mirrored back at us.
Hope you have a wonderful and healthy new year!
Arianna,
thank you SO much for sharing that article. It is exactly what I’ve been looking for to inspire the direction I want to take in my healing. Yes, VULNERABILITY, is the key to living authentically, because we are all vulnerable and accepting that is freedom.
It is the exact opposite of what spaths do, that’s how I know that the article is spot on.
Spaths serve a function: an example of how not to be.
Ironically, I remember telling my mother, (before I knew that my spath was a spath), that I had figured out how to make fail proof decisions. I would simply ask spath what to do and then do the opposite. Everything would work out right. I didn’t know the reason for this, but I had noticed the pattern. What I didn’t know was that when I asked spath for advice, he would assume that I was following it and sabotage the results. If he assumed the opposite of what I really chose, then my plans would succeed. LOL!
The funny part is that unwittingly, he had played out the reality of what a spath is actually good for: to show us how not to be and what not to do.
Skylar, I’m glad you found the article so inspiring! It really is a gem. I came across it accidentally when I was looking for info on how NOT to be vulnerable, lol. What kind of a life would it be to batten down the hatches, live in an emotional bunker and never be open or trusting again? (although I will be a LOT more discerning about who will gain my trust in the future).
Ox Dover said “we start out learning about them, but in the end it is about ourselves.” So true!
rgc, you said “…she needs to love herself before she can feel acceptance that is ADEQUATE, not total, and be reasonable about what is enough.” Exactly. When I think back to how “over the top” my love was with the psychopath, I realize it was so absolutely UNREAL.
Now, I’ll be thrilled to have the REAL but imperfect love of an actual man…and I’ll know that my offering of real but imperfect love is quite a beautiful thing, whether I offer it to another or to myself.
Happy New Year
RGC are you and she still trying to make a go of the marriage?
Donna,
Darwin is exactly like the last cat you mentioned. If I go to the toilet, he must give me attention. In whichever room I am, he must be with me. Just today, while I was reading a book in a hot thub, he came to lie down next to the bath. And when I go to bed, he will snuggle close to my back, even if half the bed is his to use. Yes, I give him food, and yes I play with him (let him run from one end of the apartment to the other like a galoping horse), and I give him affectionate attention. But he is by my side as well, knowing full well he won’t get any of the above three because I’m busy with something else. If I go to another room and he has no clue which, he’ll do his peeping mauw (he has no other, was neutered before 3 months old by the cat-saving-lady) to find out where I am, so he can come to me. And though he’s curious, he’s not really mischievous. If he’s doing something I don’t like and say his name in a certain way to warn him, he’ll look at me and leave whatever he was doing. I never needed to train him in doing that even.
No wonder that the ex-spath was envious of the relationship Darwin had with me.
ox drover,
Yes we are. and some things (most) feel pretty good right now. then theres the big but. it has become apparent to us that she still tries to predict what i am feeling or thinking a lot. we stumbled on this the other day as we were together helping our son through his jaw surgery (or rather the recovery). the day we brought him home, we were both bustling around taking care of things and i had the feeling something was off. later in the day she let me have it. she felt that i was encroaching on her mothering and i guess looking back i was. i have become so accustomed to helping where i hadnt before. no i guess it would be more accurate to say that it feels good to me to help with things around the house that she found herself maybe feeling left out. and perhaps she should have said something sooner rather than allowing it to become an irritation. we talked of it and both agree that we both spend way too much time worrying what the other is thinking.
Darwinsmom – the author of this article – and the owner of the cats – is NewLife43. Sorry, I forgot to change the “written by” link.
Its gonna work. i just am waiting for her to realize that she can bring some of the positive things she learned into our marriage. i get the feeling she buried them because she is ashamed
RCG
PRESUMING TO KNOW WHAT SOMEONE ELSE IS THINKING OR FEELING IS DANGEROUS. “I get the feeling she buried them because she is ashamed”
My guess from what little I know about your relationship with your wife is you have both PRESUMED to know what the other was feeling or thinking rather than talking about it.
I’m sorry about your son’s jaw surgery…hope he is improving. As for you helping out, I would expect you to, and expect you to WANT to.
If you two are not in counseling, I would STRONGLY suggest that you do that, both as a couple and as individuals. Good luck.