Editor’s note: This article about the importance of boundaries and belief in herself was submitted by a Lovefraud reader.
It has been about a year since my story was posted on Lovefraud, Not one thing about him was real. It has been two years since I broke off the short relationship with this disordered man. It is a year and a half since he stalked me. I hope to share at least some practical points that have helped me in the healing process. It does get better. And it is a process.
I wish I could say that others may be helped PRIOR to involvement with a sociopath, but as we all know, sometimes the inevitable entanglement occurs before we even realize we have been manipulated. This entanglement would have ended much earlier if I had had clear boundaries, zero tolerance for lies and bad behavior, and the will to walk away alone and create my own closure.
There are many events and bizarre experiences with him, his family, his indiscretions, the pathological lies. I now realize that the ONLY purpose to ANYTHING he did was to make himself look good, please himself, hide the truth, devalue others for his own perceived greatness, impress people and get off on his lies and deceptions. He loves that he manipulates people to admire him as the hero, and to come to his defense as the broken victim that he plays so well. He doesn’t want you to realize he IS the stereotypical villain. He was just good at imitating the qualities that are truly admirable like modesty, bravery and dependability. Telling people he was a Navy SEAL hero, working for the NSA, CIA, using aliases, killing terrorists, giving away fake medals, telling stories of being tortured. It’s always about him. And what he calls LOVE is more like an OBSESSION.
He surrounds himself with people who are weak, easily manipulated and vulnerable. They WILL turn their heads to the truth. He wants them to need him. It’s tantamount for HIS very survival. Smart people will question him. Weak people will live the lie, sometimes because they need something from him and sometimes because they are just too weak to admit they have been conned. It’s tantamount for THEIR survival. I know because I was there for a short time. It’s a vicious circle and a world of denial that feeds his sociopathic hunger. In reality, he needs his victims more. He is only as good as the reflection he sees in the eyes of the victim. When I questioned his veracity, I was disloyal. But I was right. I asked good questions (eventually) and he could not keep up the rotting facade of his fabricated life.
Back to basics
I had to get back to basics in order to trust others, myself, my instincts, my intuition, my belief system, religion and all the rules I used to live by. I had to respect myself, gain back my self-esteem and learn to be tolerant but ONLY of those who do not violate my beliefs and boundaries. I also had to learn to stop accepting bad behavior much earlier and stop the self defeating behavior I recognized in myself.
I made lists of those “boundaries” and used them along with real life examples of behaviors that were no longer tolerable. The will to keep those boundaries safe came from the anger I felt after revisiting conversations and events and learning all of the lies. It was painful. I needed to forgive myself, not him, and I decided I would never allow that behavior again EVER.
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I was mind raped. No doubt. I lost an innocence, not unlike being a rape victim. The abuse and exploitation is so ambient at times that you don’t even realize what has happened. It is ridden with intermittent generosity and professions of love while your thoughts, actions and behaviors are so closely controlled through undermining manipulation, guilt and shame. You are in a whirlpool of words and actions that are so inconsistent. And manipulation that has you believing you are wrong, and that everything you learned to date is wrong and that what you are witnessing must be real, while all you know to be right and good has defied you. My intelligence and good rationale failed me. Still I wanted to believe and have hope and faith.
I made lists
It was therapeutic for me to make lists:
- Things he took from me.
- Things I gave up to him.
- Lies he told.
- Red flags I ignored.
- Names he called me.
- Things he did and said to violate me and my children and friends and all the things he did (behaviors) which were inconsistent with the things he said.
I was too manipulated for far too long. NO MORE. Finally I understood that there was nothing of substance there in him to begin with. I thought he had more to offer me than I had to offer myself. But it was I who had what he wants and needs desperately. Perhaps he saw an innocence, a vulnerability, a naiveté about me and he knew I could be conned.
As much as I read and studied narcissism, sociopathy, and any number of disorders, I still could not comprehend why he lied and cheated as he did and why I allowed him to keep coming back for more. Someone told me that normal, healthy people cannot make sense of irrational, impulsive and sometimes delusional behavior because we simply rationalize. People who are disordered and impulsive just do what they do because they can and it benefits themselves in some way. It truly is that simple.
Creating boundaries
There are things I have learned to practice that have allowed me to find closure, take my power back, regain my confidence, which hopefully will keep me from EVER making this mistake again. I don’t need someone else to provide closure to a bad relationship or situation I never did. It was in me all along.
Creating Boundaries: These are mine:
- HONESTY — I ignored my instincts and the facts even when I caught him in lies.
- INTEGRITY — He was not and never will be a man of his word.
- FIDELITY/LOYALTY — The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. (He cheated constantly on his previous wife, on me and on his current wife. I have been told she is wearing the same engagement ring I wore.)
- RESPECT — (The verbal abuse, the cheating, the lying, the inability to do as he says are ALL encompassing of issues of respect). The bad behavior, spitefulness, drug abuse and allowing all of the above with his adult daughters.
I learned all over again to verbalize my rule of zero tolerance. I didn’t always speak up in the presence of the sociopath because he HAD to be in control and raged or had a tantrum for days.
The closure I seek these days, which I learned as a practice from my therapist, is that when someone is disrespectful, lies or doesn’t treat me well, that I need to close it off with direct communication about what I think and feel and to NOT let them back in again. When I do, I feel like I am in control of my life, my beliefs, and displaying respect for myself (and in an appropriate way). I have truly taken my power back. It is important for me to say, “Don’t contact me again. You are behaving inappropriately. I am not interested in you any longer. I don’t like what you just said to me.” IT IS ok to protect yourself first. I explain this at the risk of sounding juvenile or patronizing but I truly had to relearn these practices, which came so naturally to me previous to the sociopath.
Recognizing my value
All of our lives are eventually a result of the decisions we make. This is particularly true of the sociopath. In fact, I prefer to believe that his life is like a constant panic of desperation to gain what others have, what he needs to see in our reflection to fill the emptiness of his disturbed soul. He can’t fulfill his own fantasies fast enough and so he scrambles daily to find victims to manipulate in order to feel superior.
Listen now — Don Shipley: Exposing phony Navy SEALs
Recently, this man’s family and new friends found the truth about him on an internet site where he has been exposed as a military impostor and con man. He has known of the exposure for two years after an investigation. He chose not to respond then. He has dishonored those who served and gave of their lives. Other women/people have now come forward and also identified him and his stories. Justice comes in strange ways sometimes. He counted on all of his victims to cower to his intimidations but HE is the coward. Those who continue to live the lie are the cowards. Yet he still has potential to be prosecuted for his crimes. HE IS EXPOSED. I prefer to be on this end simply observing the drama that he is creating with his new followers and family, with no involvement.
At some point I saw more value in what the sociopath had to offer me than in what I had in myself. And I was willing to give myself up to be what he wanted, demanded, expected. The abuse I suffered as a target of a sociopath has taken a toll. To recover, I first had to clear the fog, find myself, and understand my value and importance.
There is a kind of confidence that is exuded when we know who we are and what we want and don’t deviate too much from that. People see it in us and respect it as well. The road is long and this experience with this dysfunctional man will stay with me for a long time. I found myself through recognizing my value and making sure it is respected and appreciated, if not by someone else, by ME. After all, I am the one who has to face me every day.
Learn more — Survivor’s guide to healthy people and healthy relationships
Lovefraud originally posted this story on Dec. 9, 2009.
Just about healed:
I have done this! In fact, when we broke up initially, I did this as it works well with my clients. I wrote about 4 pages worth of ‘reminders’ of all the assinine things he did and referred back to it ALOT…in fact, I still do, and have added more and more things to it!
Im not quite there yet and sometimes the thought of pulling my notepad out, re-reading it, and swallowing it is overbearing…so I avoid it. Other times, when Im pissed to no end, I read it, and read it, and read it…then I get mad and Im okay…
Thank you, this is good to know others really do use it too 🙂
robxsykobabe: I’ve learned from reading here that there are nurses, therapists and others in helping professions. It would be interesting to know what this means, if anything. There are also lawyers and journalists (journalism is my previous career area) who’ve blogged here.
In terms of whether he loved you, I became convinced by what so many others have shared here — that these N/S people are unable to fully see/hear others as individuals (they view people as extensions of themselves or prey, and feel they are above us normal humans).
I would never presume to know whether someone else’s relationship had genuine love or not, but I do think there is a clear lack of empathy going on with these disordered people. I don’t think they even love themselves.
There are a lot of articles on this site that address this topic, because one issue that comes up for so many people is whether their ex is able to love a new person after the end of a relationship.
Based on my experience, I think the N/S are operating from such a different worldview that it is impossible to know what they think, believe or feel from a normal person’s perspective. They are balls of confusion, both for themselves and others.
My ex still tells me he loves me (when we talk occasionally). I am not moved by it at all.
I think that even if we don’t love someone, the degree of harm these people do for no apparent or good reason (outcomes for them or another) definitely suggests they are incapable of empathy and basic decency on many levels.
In a previous relationship I had (with my son’s father) before I met my N/S ex, there was a lack of closeness and he sometimes lied (related more to financial irresponsibility), but it never rose to the level of emotional abuse, gaslighting and other straight-up confusion and routine non-sense that I experienced with the N/S.
So your guess is as good as mine. There are some excellent books on these people in case you have not already read them:
Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of Psychopaths Among Us
The Wizard of Oz and Other Narcissists
Why is it always about you? (not sure if title is exact)
The Sociopath Next Door
The Betrayal Bond (about trauma bonding)– Breaking Free of Exploitive Relationships
And many more: Mary Jo Buttafucco’s book is excellent; old Alfred Hitchcock movies explore sociopathic men and women in everyday life situations — just amazing how deep Hitchcock was, in addition to being humorous.
I can tell you I don’t want to experience another personal relationship with one of these creatures, but I am becoming a better therapist/healer (a wounded healer who is recovering from family-of-origin/co-dependency stuff I had been working on over 20 years — and the N/S experience helped uncover other things at a deeper level) because of it.
read that and its brilliant…Im in crisis again but this time its my own fault…I had to come back for more and now I live a half arsed life, where I am no longer me..I am unfeeling and cold..dead..and today its kicked off again..amnd because I dont react and jst ignore hiom he has been in bed since 7pm…I could scream…
Muldoon:
The ex s’s psychologist told me……
EB….you know the facts here…and he’s NOT going to change.
You just keep on touching the hot stove and getting burned.
Muldoon…..you know the facts…..and I’m gonna ask you again…..
WHAT IS YOUR LIFE WORTH???
What kind of mother do you wish to be????
(and are you that woman?)
It’s up to YOU to break the cycle.
UP TO YOU!!!!
There is NO WAY possible your going to ‘make it better’….your going to extend the enevitable.
BUT…..the more time you let pass, you will have less resources to work with. Emotionally and financially and backing/support from your family, friends, neighbors, kids etc…
Trust me….I tried every door, angle, opening, change, improvement, digression…..and the only thing that made a difference…..WAS BOOTING HIM FROM MY LIFE!!!!!
You have kids to be a mother too? You need to show them the meaning of love…..not abusive treatment from a spouse…..Do you want them entering into the same type of relationship they have been shown an example of?????
I THINK NOT!
PAY ATTENTION HERE>>…..
GET THE HELL OUT!!!!!!
I care, I’m concerned and there is no way you can avoid what you are living by staying there.
NO WAY!!!
Only you can make this choice…..CHOOSE A BETTER LIFE!!!!
XXOO
EB
Recovering …
you HAVE to get the book Women who Love Psychopaths (I think I should have some sort of associate selling deal – I can’t stop recommending it lol) It spells out in intricate detail the types of women who get involved with psychos and there are definite elements that are very very common …
You are spot on about the helping professions – if we go into this type of work, we are far more empathic than the regular population. We also have other traits that are likely to make us stick around the P when things get bad – think patience, tolerance, hope, support, e ncouragement. So because of the traits we are attracted to this type of work and then the work and training reinforces and grows the traits. I downloaded an ecopy so I will have a quick look to find a small excerpt to post. You can buy the book (both electronic and paper) at this site or at Sandra Brown’s site. Dr Liane Leedom who posts here co-authored and the research is incredible.
“Our survey found the temperament traits elevated in women who love
psychopaths are:
1. Extraversion and excitement-seeking
2. Relationship investment and positive sociability
3. Sentimentality
4. Attachment
5. Competitiveness
6. Concern for having others’ high regard
7. Harm avoidance”
Brown, S. (2009). Women who love psychopaths. Page 104
Each of those traits is broken down individually in great detail to explain how it supports the sick relationship.
This quote is about professions and comes from page 104 and 105
“Her Extraversion52
The women who love psychopaths overwhelmingly tested as
extraverted, which wasn’t surprising. Those I have worked with are mostly gregarious and powerful women! Most are highly educated or have done well in their own line of work—successful by anyone’s standards. The average woman in the survey had a minimum of a Bachelor’s Degree or higher. Many are professionally trained as:
Attorneys
Doctors
Therapists or social workers
Female clergy
Nurses or other medical professionals
Teachers or professors
Editors
CEOs of companies
Non-profit agency directors
These are a formidable group of women who have knowledge, education, and strength. Before the psychopath landed in their lives, they were financially secure or successful in their field or school, had good self-esteem, goal direction and competitive attitudes. How does the women’s own extraversion influence how they ended up in a relationship with a psychopath?”
This passage explains the cue reading on page 116 …
” Her Social Sensitivity
These women are also socially sensitive. They are sensitive to the needs of others which explained why they were so sensitive to the needs of a psychopath. They are sensitive to environmental and emotional cues about other people and can pick up when others are hurt or wounded by an
act or something said. Many psychopaths play the ”—empathy’ card early in the luring stage. Picking up on a woman’s hyper-empathy, they use their chameleon tendencies to morph into whatever she is. If she is hyperempathic then she needs something to empathize with. Quickly the psychopath has the sad story for her to connect to”“his abusive childhood, his wife who runs around, his lost job, his stolen opportunity, his children he never gets to see. Her ability to hyper-focus on the needs of others puts the psychopath dead center as the recipient of her social sensitivity.”
I strongly recommend everyone read this book – it points out both our strengths and weaknesses and is important in learning how to go out safely into the world so we never experience this kind of relationship again.
pollyannanomore — ok, this sounds like something I’ll definitely want to explore more in depth.
Thanks for the info, and Happy New Year.
I am not a women so i have not read that book about loving sociopaths. But have often thot it might also apply to men. But the traits you have shown make it obvious I dont love them, just feel sorry for them. If I went to a homeless shelter I would prolly bring most of them home with me. The sociopathic ones any who. So I have blinder’s on when it comes to the needy, just like I no longer rescue stray dogs, I just cant afford to feed them or care for them.
Henry I would be willing to bet the traits are very similar for men – it is a pity they didn’t do a chapter on same sex relationships as well in the re edit – there would be similar dynamics but with an added layer of context and culture. Do you recognise those traits within yourself or are there some differences?
I so know where you are coming from re the stray pets – I seem to be a magnet for them. If there is a dog that has e scaped it’s yard or a kitten wandering on the road, you can guarantee I will come in contact with them and take them home till their owner’s or a new home can be found. I am the Princess of Strays lol. In fact just tonight I was walking my dogs at the park and found a little white rabbit nestling in the periphery. I took the pooches home and prepped a box with newspapers and blankets, grabbed some gloves and cabbage leaves and carrots and was all set to go back and bring it with me as the heavens had opened and it was pouring down. But when I got back it was gone – probably a pet rabbit that got through a fence – was a bit of relief for me! Last time I did a park rescue it was an injured bird and I picked it up, spent ages negotiating with a shelter and finally got a vet to agree to see it. I flew in the car with it in a box and it died on the way unfortunately. I cried for a good few hours after that – even though the vet was very kind and said it was shock and it would have died anyway.
I think it’s ok to rescue as long as we don’t actually keep them. I will still pick up wandering animals (well not big dangerous dogs!) if I see them – my conscience won’t let me do otherwise – fortunately I don’t seem to be meeting as many lately 🙂
PS the book is worth reading anyway – only about two chapters are devoted to women’s traits – the rest focusses on the traits and behaviours of the psychopaths and the dynamics that occur in the relationship – it’s a fascinating read. I read it in one go – just was glued to the screen for hours!
Hope your New Year is off to a flying start! And you make a good point – it won’t kill any of us to remain single for a few years 🙂
DearEB,
Your above post to Muldoon wins the first “Silver Cast iron Skillet AWARD for 2010.” Good Advice!
I had a GREAT New year’s Pity Party and head banging marathon, but I am back to myself now, I have literally worn out a 10 inch skillet, beat a hole through the bottom on MY OWN HEAD, which is now flat and cracked but functioning much better. I smashed my ROSY COLORED glasses as welll, and I hope I never get stooo-pid enough to ever put on another pair.
It is AMAZING how much we can work at denial, excuses, and trivalizing other’s bad behavior just because we love these “people” (to use the word losely) or we over look dysfunction in Non-Ps that is just about as toxic to us, whew! But, I am turning over a new leaf in 2010.
MY FARM IS NOW THE LIAR-FREE ZONE, and my rosy colored glasses are smashed to pieces, and I am armed to the teeth with a skillet in each hand, and a Bowie Knife in my teeth, with my sheeet stomping kick arse boots on and I don’t care who the SOB is, I don’t tolerate liars and I ain’t a gonna cry over no more of the f’s either! So there ! Take THAT!!! Now all you liars get gone or I will sic the hound dogs on your sorry butts and BOINK you on the haid with two skillits.!!! LOL
Happy New Year to us all, and a PSYCHOPATH-FREE year for us all, and try out Oxy’s new brand of NO- MORE TEARS LOTION, just rub it on a psychopath and they vanish and you don’t have to cry any more.!!! (((Hugs)))) and prayers for you all, your prayers worked for me! Thanks to you all!
robxsykobabe – you wrote:
‘… only to have ’reverted’ to his ’true’ self because that ‘self’ worked so much easier for him?’
with me, the ‘sweet boy’ character was SOOOOO kind, and i htink with the rest of the folks who ‘he’ was connecting with. I remember thinking that this must have been a HUGE burden for the spath to be this nice (and intelligent and articulate) and to so many for so long – the latest characters she brought to the fore were NOT nice. mean, threatening, histrionic, poorly spoken, manipulative, gas lighting, stupid, etc.