Editor’s note: This article about the importance of boundaries and belief in herself was submitted by a Lovefraud reader.
It has been about a year since my story was posted on Lovefraud, Not one thing about him was real. It has been two years since I broke off the short relationship with this disordered man. It is a year and a half since he stalked me. I hope to share at least some practical points that have helped me in the healing process. It does get better. And it is a process.
I wish I could say that others may be helped PRIOR to involvement with a sociopath, but as we all know, sometimes the inevitable entanglement occurs before we even realize we have been manipulated. This entanglement would have ended much earlier if I had had clear boundaries, zero tolerance for lies and bad behavior, and the will to walk away alone and create my own closure.
There are many events and bizarre experiences with him, his family, his indiscretions, the pathological lies. I now realize that the ONLY purpose to ANYTHING he did was to make himself look good, please himself, hide the truth, devalue others for his own perceived greatness, impress people and get off on his lies and deceptions. He loves that he manipulates people to admire him as the hero, and to come to his defense as the broken victim that he plays so well. He doesn’t want you to realize he IS the stereotypical villain. He was just good at imitating the qualities that are truly admirable like modesty, bravery and dependability. Telling people he was a Navy SEAL hero, working for the NSA, CIA, using aliases, killing terrorists, giving away fake medals, telling stories of being tortured. It’s always about him. And what he calls LOVE is more like an OBSESSION.
He surrounds himself with people who are weak, easily manipulated and vulnerable. They WILL turn their heads to the truth. He wants them to need him. It’s tantamount for HIS very survival. Smart people will question him. Weak people will live the lie, sometimes because they need something from him and sometimes because they are just too weak to admit they have been conned. It’s tantamount for THEIR survival. I know because I was there for a short time. It’s a vicious circle and a world of denial that feeds his sociopathic hunger. In reality, he needs his victims more. He is only as good as the reflection he sees in the eyes of the victim. When I questioned his veracity, I was disloyal. But I was right. I asked good questions (eventually) and he could not keep up the rotting facade of his fabricated life.
Back to basics
I had to get back to basics in order to trust others, myself, my instincts, my intuition, my belief system, religion and all the rules I used to live by. I had to respect myself, gain back my self-esteem and learn to be tolerant but ONLY of those who do not violate my beliefs and boundaries. I also had to learn to stop accepting bad behavior much earlier and stop the self defeating behavior I recognized in myself.
I made lists of those “boundaries” and used them along with real life examples of behaviors that were no longer tolerable. The will to keep those boundaries safe came from the anger I felt after revisiting conversations and events and learning all of the lies. It was painful. I needed to forgive myself, not him, and I decided I would never allow that behavior again EVER.
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I was mind raped. No doubt. I lost an innocence, not unlike being a rape victim. The abuse and exploitation is so ambient at times that you don’t even realize what has happened. It is ridden with intermittent generosity and professions of love while your thoughts, actions and behaviors are so closely controlled through undermining manipulation, guilt and shame. You are in a whirlpool of words and actions that are so inconsistent. And manipulation that has you believing you are wrong, and that everything you learned to date is wrong and that what you are witnessing must be real, while all you know to be right and good has defied you. My intelligence and good rationale failed me. Still I wanted to believe and have hope and faith.
I made lists
It was therapeutic for me to make lists:
- Things he took from me.
- Things I gave up to him.
- Lies he told.
- Red flags I ignored.
- Names he called me.
- Things he did and said to violate me and my children and friends and all the things he did (behaviors) which were inconsistent with the things he said.
I was too manipulated for far too long. NO MORE. Finally I understood that there was nothing of substance there in him to begin with. I thought he had more to offer me than I had to offer myself. But it was I who had what he wants and needs desperately. Perhaps he saw an innocence, a vulnerability, a naiveté about me and he knew I could be conned.
As much as I read and studied narcissism, sociopathy, and any number of disorders, I still could not comprehend why he lied and cheated as he did and why I allowed him to keep coming back for more. Someone told me that normal, healthy people cannot make sense of irrational, impulsive and sometimes delusional behavior because we simply rationalize. People who are disordered and impulsive just do what they do because they can and it benefits themselves in some way. It truly is that simple.
Creating boundaries
There are things I have learned to practice that have allowed me to find closure, take my power back, regain my confidence, which hopefully will keep me from EVER making this mistake again. I don’t need someone else to provide closure to a bad relationship or situation I never did. It was in me all along.
Creating Boundaries: These are mine:
- HONESTY — I ignored my instincts and the facts even when I caught him in lies.
- INTEGRITY — He was not and never will be a man of his word.
- FIDELITY/LOYALTY — The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. (He cheated constantly on his previous wife, on me and on his current wife. I have been told she is wearing the same engagement ring I wore.)
- RESPECT — (The verbal abuse, the cheating, the lying, the inability to do as he says are ALL encompassing of issues of respect). The bad behavior, spitefulness, drug abuse and allowing all of the above with his adult daughters.
I learned all over again to verbalize my rule of zero tolerance. I didn’t always speak up in the presence of the sociopath because he HAD to be in control and raged or had a tantrum for days.
The closure I seek these days, which I learned as a practice from my therapist, is that when someone is disrespectful, lies or doesn’t treat me well, that I need to close it off with direct communication about what I think and feel and to NOT let them back in again. When I do, I feel like I am in control of my life, my beliefs, and displaying respect for myself (and in an appropriate way). I have truly taken my power back. It is important for me to say, “Don’t contact me again. You are behaving inappropriately. I am not interested in you any longer. I don’t like what you just said to me.” IT IS ok to protect yourself first. I explain this at the risk of sounding juvenile or patronizing but I truly had to relearn these practices, which came so naturally to me previous to the sociopath.
Recognizing my value
All of our lives are eventually a result of the decisions we make. This is particularly true of the sociopath. In fact, I prefer to believe that his life is like a constant panic of desperation to gain what others have, what he needs to see in our reflection to fill the emptiness of his disturbed soul. He can’t fulfill his own fantasies fast enough and so he scrambles daily to find victims to manipulate in order to feel superior.
Listen now — Don Shipley: Exposing phony Navy SEALs
Recently, this man’s family and new friends found the truth about him on an internet site where he has been exposed as a military impostor and con man. He has known of the exposure for two years after an investigation. He chose not to respond then. He has dishonored those who served and gave of their lives. Other women/people have now come forward and also identified him and his stories. Justice comes in strange ways sometimes. He counted on all of his victims to cower to his intimidations but HE is the coward. Those who continue to live the lie are the cowards. Yet he still has potential to be prosecuted for his crimes. HE IS EXPOSED. I prefer to be on this end simply observing the drama that he is creating with his new followers and family, with no involvement.
At some point I saw more value in what the sociopath had to offer me than in what I had in myself. And I was willing to give myself up to be what he wanted, demanded, expected. The abuse I suffered as a target of a sociopath has taken a toll. To recover, I first had to clear the fog, find myself, and understand my value and importance.
There is a kind of confidence that is exuded when we know who we are and what we want and don’t deviate too much from that. People see it in us and respect it as well. The road is long and this experience with this dysfunctional man will stay with me for a long time. I found myself through recognizing my value and making sure it is respected and appreciated, if not by someone else, by ME. After all, I am the one who has to face me every day.
Learn more — Survivor’s guide to healthy people and healthy relationships
Lovefraud originally posted this story on Dec. 9, 2009.
Hello All,
The making-choices piece is what came to me after reading this article this morning and letting it percolate. How at every turn during my encounter with the suckhole I had a choice to make. And I can say I made poor choices. Self-defeating, self-doubting, self-negating choices. I chose to ignore my gut feelings, my rational thoughts, my friendsand therapist’s admonitions, my emotional turmoil. I chose to believe in someone else more than I did myself. I chose fantasy over reality. I had been doing this my entire life.
And the deal is the longer I negated myself, the worse the consequences, until, POOF!, the suckholes began to appear!
I made these choices because I had false beliefs about myself along the lines of “I am not capable of knowing what I want…..I am not deserving of individual attention and care…..I am emotionally disabled……I cannot think for myself…..etc”. Things I learned from my momster (thank-you Henry!), and other abusers from my childhood/past.
And for me too, the encounter has opened me up in such a way that I am learning to live my life as fully awake and aware as I have ever been. I never thought I would hear myself say this. I could not have imagined it two years ago.
I am still ‘shaky’ with this new powersuit, with jet propulsion, on. But I am getting the hang of saying no, and meaning it. Of staying away from anyone who ‘vibes’ me out, without needing to get close enough to ‘validate’ my senses….trusting my guts. Of making comittments to myself, and keeping them. Of resisting the need to always be nice, of manipulating others into loving me because I am. Of not always being ‘helpful’ (thank-you Oxy for your ceaseless examples of what real help is, and is not!).
I have been here about a year, with over two years no contact. I am so grateful for this blog. For the wisdom and truth of healing.
Congratulations to all of us…..where ever we are on our journey of healing and awakening…..Slim
“I saw more value in what the sociopath had to offer me than in what I had in myself.”
I resemble that remark. Very powerful. Thank you for this. I too made lists… mine is here somewhere on LoveFraud Land.
Thanks for sharing your story and about your recovery. Truly
Love this post (love ALL the posts) and it’s that huge shift from them to us that’s the tough bit. We’re many of us, because of our history, primed to give away our power and believe we’re bottom of the heap, last in line, the one who has to MAKE it right and not the one who HAS any rights. When you come out of the fog it’s like being hit by a truck when you see what you’ve allowed. Gotta be kind to ourselves then, instead of turning the hatred inward and creating even more shame.
Slimone you say:
I am still ‘shaky’ with this new powersuit, with jet propulsion, on. But I am getting the hang of saying no, and meaning it. Of staying away from anyone who ’vibes’ me out, without needing to get close enough to ’validate’ my senses”.trusting my guts. Of making comittments to myself, and keeping them. Of resisting the need to always be nice, of manipulating others into loving me because I am. Of not always being ’helpful’ (thank-you Oxy for your ceaseless examples of what real help is, and is not!).
Love it. Me too and I’m working Oxy’s brilliant Silver Rule where I can. Shocked myself the other day when I was doing my bit of voluntary work and instead of letting them put it all on me while they sat about with their heads up their a**ses like I always do I found myself strolling up to the table and in a sing-song voice saying, “I’m doing all the f***ing work” with a sarcastic grimace on my face. They sat there and smiled a bit, one weakly said, “Sorry” and made to move to get up and help. I couldn’t believe the words came out of my head! I think I read in ‘The Betrayal Bond’ that where we usually under-react ie have no boundaries, we have to be aware of not over-reacting too and I think I might have done that as it was new to me to have an opinion and not just do what they wanted me to do. Hee hee. It was funny. My therapist says with practise I’ll get the balance right but maybe a few more folk’ll get an earful first. Oh well. They’ll live. 😛
Dear Becoming!!!! TOWANDA and TOWANDA again!!! Setting those first boundaries –ah jmy goodness how I waffled over how to do it and cried at having to do so. LOL I look kback and I think OMG! What a WOOSEEE I was!
Some (Now) X-friends of ours were staying out here at the farm in their RV (a couple) and I had just returned to the farm and my RV was parked out by the hangar where my food-storage freezers are plugged in and I still hadn’t moved back into my house so I was close to the hangar and in the middle of the night, I actually caught (thanks to my little dog) the woman going into my food freezers and HELPPING HERSELF. Now, mind you, IF SHE HAD ASKED I could have given her the food, but she was SNEAKING and TAKING, which just pithed me off good. I didn’t say anything to her but just looked at her and she turned red and made funny noises trying to think of something to say after being caught red handed.
I was so pithed—but I didn’t have the guts to confront her about it, so I simply started locking the freezers and didn’t say anything about locking them to her, though I quite imagine she found out they were locked.
Eventually, though, I had to confront her and her husband, and I did set boundaries, they didn’t respect it, and so I finally asked them to leave the farm. They have sense violated other boundaries, and this time they contacted us again, after 8 months of not hearing from them, my sons and I have notified them that we are “done” with them and they don’t need to contact us again unless they want to pay back the money they borrowed from my son, and they can MAIL THAT BACK.
These people are not even psychopaths, though the wife of the couple does have some serious issues with sticky finigers, but they were my first effort at setting bondaries with people who were “close to” me. I’ve never had any problem with setting boundaries with people who were NOT family or close friends, but it was almost impossible for me to set a boundary for someone close. I would lay down and let them walk across my back. But no more.
It does feel odd to stand up for yourself though, and like you are being “rude” when in fact, you are just confronting rude. It may not make you “popular” with some folks, but I’m past caring about “popular” lilke I did in 10th grade, if “popular” means I have to walk on egg shells around people who oare walking across my back with hobb-nailed boots.
The thing that is important to remeber, I think, about boundaries is that when you set one, be prepared for the relationship to “go south” if they do not respect you. But I am more than prepared to LOSE the relationships that are not honest and good and in which I am not respected. You keep on Becoming, I think you are doing great!!!! You’ll have those training wheels off in no time. (I used my son for my training wheels, because before I would set a boundary I would ask him “is this a reasonable boundary?” before I set it, I was that unsure of myself! Now I just set the boundary, MY boundary!)
Good morning everyone!
Awesome post and all the comments as well.
Survivor, AWESOME article. I have read and re-read it and will most likely read some more. Each time I come away with something new.
“I was mind raped. No doubt. I lost an innocence, not unlike being a rape victim. The abuse and exploitation is so ambient at times that you don’t even realize what has happened. It is ridden with intermittent generosity and professions of love while your thoughts, actions and behaviors are so closely controlled through undermining manipulation, guilt and shame. You are in a whirlpool of words and actions that are so inconsistent.”
This really hit home with me. When I was growing up, my father had a favorite line we all heard on a regular basis. “Don’t lie, don’t cheat, don’t steal. If you do one, you’re doing all 3.” He was right, too. For me, none of those were an option and I’ve come to see that my ex P. used my morals as a front for all of the lying, cheating and stealing HE was doing. I couldn’t have BEGUN to think up the games he played, using people, all of it. Yet, because of all of this, I believe I will actually learn more and be a stronger person for it. Mind raped? You bet.
TODAY is a different story.
Ox, GREAT point about being prepared for relationships to go “south” when there is no respect. I’ve been dealing with this, as you know and I found out I’m not going to die and the world won’t end if certain people are not in my life. I can’t bend or stretch those boundaries for ANYONE. It’s a new thing I’m working on, but I LIKE it. The power of the word, “NO” is new to me and I practice using it now, a LOT. When I found out my ex P. was using MY computer to meet other women (and men), I locked it down, pass coded it and put parental controls on. Should have seen the fit over that one! I realize now that that was setting a boundary as well and I had already begun, though I didn’t know it. Never did change them like he ordered me to. Like putting the locks on the freezers, it was a big “NO” to them.
recovery, your post is EXCELLENT! Let go, let go, let go. I already copied and pasted this list. For me, being new in this, first I have to recognize it, then I can apply this list to it. I wouldn’t call myself religious, but more spiritual, yet I believe firmly there is a God who is all loving, knowing and seeing.
I learn every single day and I come to LF to do that. I didn’t believe there was anyone who would believe me until I came here. I had gotten SO tired of people telling me it was all in my head. Actually, they were right, just not in the way they thought.
So much of what I learn here, I am now taking it and putting it into action, one day at a time.
Hugs and thank you’s to all,
Cat
Hi everyone,
Haven’t posted in a long time but absolutely loved Donna’s article and had to reply. I’ve been Sociofree for a year now, after a two-year on and off stint with the toxic man. I am happy to report that I am no longer:
– thiking of him daily
– wondering why he did certain things
– planning a revenge
– wondering when he’ll try to call again
– wondering who he’s seeing now
– reading any book I can get my hands on on sociopathy and disordered bhaviours
– talking to others about him
– mssing the way he made me feel when he put on the charm
– reading back his texts and emails
– etc…etc…
I had much the same closure as Donna did in terms of making lists though, of things he took, lies he told me, red flags ignored, which was really eye-opening and therapeutic.
Some of the comments in Donna’s article that really resonated were:
– “mind raped”
– “rotten facade of a fabricated life”
– “damaged beyond repair”
– “scrambled daily to find victims to manipulate to feel superior”
– “needs to see in our reflection to fill the emptiness of their disturbed soul”
– “they get offf on our belief in their lies”
I agree with several of the commentaries that in a way, our encounter with a sociopath has added wisdom to our lives, and helped define more clearly than if we had not gone through the experience, what our belief in ourselves is, and what our personal boundaries are, for relationships and friendships. I am now crystal clear on those boundaries (and have made a few “Please do not contact me again” statements since), and that is very empowering.
We’ve become wise and textured by this encounter with toxic, manipulative and disordered individuals…We’ve learned to profess love to ourselves, as opposed to accept false love professed by an imposter.
Dear Socio-Free,
TOWANDA!!! glad you are still around! Good GOOD post and I am sure it helps others realize tht there IS A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL, and it is NOT an ON-coming train! (((hugs))))
Matt,
Off topic: do you recall the Landmark case allowing the custodial person to move (not have a limit placed on the location of tehir residence)?
PS: your post truly complemented Donna’s article.
Thanks.
Recovering.
Thank you for your post. I have copied and will print it!
Oxy…BTW my mom (who I suspect is about your age) is also a NP. I hear the same stories from her ; )
About Closure with a S/P. I felt/feel with my S/P that he will never give me closure because he doesn’t want it.
He wants it ALL, he wants ALL his GF’s, wives, what ever they are, he dragged the last ex along throughout our engagement.
He dropped his “abusive” parents just weeks before our wedding, but called them up, just months later, like it was no big deal the MINUTE I discovered I was pregnant.
THEY were AWFUL parents, but they’ll be GREAT grandparents….sure.
No closure because they want to keep you “IN CASE”
just MHO
Dear Banana,
I assume you are saying your mother is a nurse practitioner, not a Narssist/psychopath. LOL Does your mom live close to you? Is she supportive of you (I hope)?
Yes, he will string you along as long as he gets any satisfaction (attention) from you, but eventually he will have another woman move to the top of the “I’ll get revenge” list. I feel bad wishing that on anyone, but it is one of those things like “better her than me” feelings–or as we say, “If theya re gossiping about her, they are leaving me alone” (or vice versa)
It could be that one or both of his parents are Ns or Ps, or it could be that they have just “had it” with him, like with my son, it was impossible to be a “good parent” to him after he morphed into a monster.
I assume that your question to matt above was that you are thinking about moving to “India” to get away from him. That might work, it does sometimes, other times the courts won’t let you move out of state.. It just depends, I think, but it might be worth a try! LOL
Just keep on hanging in there and disconnecting the buttons that he is trying to push! If he doesn’t get a reaction he will eventually get tired of no reaction. Just like a rat in a cage that has been programmed to get a treat everytime it pushes the lever, if it gets no treat, it will EVENTUALLY give up on pounding on that lever. YOU just have to be patient and see that he NEVER GETS A TREAT/REWARD. I mean NEVER because if you give him a reward intermittently (once in a while) it will only make him more determined to keep on trying! So hang in there! YOU CAN DO IT. Maybe his OW will get tired of changing diapers and taking care of the baby. Love Oxy