Editor’s note: The following email was sent by the Lovefraud reader who posts as “OpalRose.”
I’m not a good writer, but I’ve learned so much the past 3 years from Love Fraud that I decided to write about my “Long Night’s Journey into Day” about emerging from childhood with a sociopathic mother.
My first experience of something amiss that stuck with me was probably pre-school when she had a full-blown temper tantrum that I brought her too many envelopes. She had asked for “a few envelopes” and I had brought 7 — she even counted them out and screamed that I should know that “a few” means 3. So much for my ability to read minds. She insisted that “if we really loved her, she wouldn’t have to ask for anything, we should just know.” She was always writing letters and letters and letters and could not keep enough envelopes in stock.
Fast forward to her death in 2003 and the little black book with over 100 addresses and receiving really weird condolence letters from many, many people who were “heavily involved” with writing sexual content back and forth with her over the years. Yes — I burned everything — very cathartic. Now I know that sociopathic people can follow a pattern of multiple affairs of all types concurrently. Thank you LF for that information.
The sexual pattern unfortunately extended to me her daughter and my older brother; that is until she began a heavily involved emotional (maybe more) affair with a young mother who moved into the house behind ours. I was 14 at the time and it confused me tremendously as to what she was up to, even spending the night claiming that the young mother of 3 was afraid when her husband was out of town (yes — I worry that she probably molested the little ones). The 2 women would spend time harassing me about everything personal — my hair, my gangly teenage body, my teeth in braces. I had no idea what to do about it, so I remained cheerful and never complained. This was my first experience of devalue / discard.
The only times she was “nice” to me were at church and when I was a good line on HER resume. I never once saw her express a single real emotion. Good report cards were never celebrated, after school activities were banned even though she did not want to spend any time with me, she gave my clothes away to other people at the drop of a hat, she would go into “charm mode” when anyone called or stopped by, she wanted me to be “outgoing and entertaining” whenever we interacted (like a movie script), she was thoroughly bored every night that she was home, she hated being home at all, she harped about her days as a young beautiful thing who charmed everyone and broke all the hearts (dating married men and jilting her fiancé for my father whom she married after 2 weeks of “love at first sight”). Wow — exhausting stuff.
One-year experiment
At age 19, I was still living at home attending a community college as a conscious decision to protect my by then disabled father, my brother long gone (good for him). Somehow I decided to run an “experiment” and do everything she wanted for 1 full year (except for the deviant sex stuff — she wanted me to flirt with men and women of all kinds and help her meet them — uh NO). The young mother had moved away with her 3 children so I guess I was the “best game in town” and she came back to me with her demands. By this time, she was in her mid-50’s, but nothing ever slowed her down. That year, I took her to every social outing, store shopping (working nights to fund her purchases — all of them frivolous), kept her completely supplied and entertained. At the end of the year, I looked back and saw the bottomless pit that she was and stopped everything. I was burned out and she was still demanding, still restless, still pushing for extra sex of all kinds (while going to church like she was a saint for caring for a disabled husband). Endless supply — pattern of a sociopath – thank you LF for that sharing that insight.
Once I stopped everything – what next ? You got it — extreme measures to bring me “back into line.” Physical abuse, using every acquaintance to harass me, phone calls, lectures from the minister (all lies), and of course holding my father’s safety over me as a very effective threat. So I stayed and I stayed and I stayed until 27 years old when I deliberately married someone she hated and moved out of state. My father’s older sister later moved in with them and it was a big relief for me for his safety. She was an awesome geriatric nurse and she remained living in the house until he died. Thank you Auntie !! Of course she moved out immediately after his death.
Peer group
I ended up way across country and participated in an informal peer counseling therapy group for women who had “issues with their mothers.” Nobody knew me there and that was very freeing. Wow — open sharing and nothing was sacred. Did that ever open up my deepest wounds for peers to see and I learned the phrase “reality check.” That group with all its foibles started my journey out of darkness. LF is right — you see much more clearly when you are away from the toxic environment.
We noticed similar patterns in all our childhood homes: the financial drains, the sexual abuse, the incessant gossip as weapons (gaslighting), the no real emotion phenomenon, the restlessness, the sexual appetites that knew no boundaries, the falling asleep instantly at night (like turning off a switch), the instant mood changes when visitors arrived and left, the masks they wore, everything was there. We would meet for 2 hours every week and then go to a nearby small outdoor eatery where we would talk for hours and hours on end. There was a young man who worked there who joined us and opened up completely about his journey. We had no way to organize our experiences around “sociopath,” but wow — we were awesome together. So much gratitude for that time in my life. I could say anything I wanted — anything and there was nothing but validation. Pure healing balm. Quality listeners — right ?? A whole nest of them !! Like the LF site.
Love bombing
During my 3 year stint in that healing place, my father passed away. I went home for the funeral and spent 2 weeks in hell with my mother as you can imagine. I “escaped” (literally) back to my new home and then guess what started ?? Love Bombing !!! I had never experienced the amount of flirting, presents in the mail, phone messages about how amazing a person I was, yada, yada, yada from MY MOTHER. Totally weird and I totally ignored it. Next came the police visits with her claiming I had stolen things from her house, phone calls from “concerned” religious ministers whom she had recruited in my new town, registered letters containing blank paper just to get a “registered receipt” sent to her, really ugly letters from relatives claiming I had “abandoned this poor widow.” What a blessing that I had my group to give me constant reality checks and I was never in danger of succumbing to her antics.
I instinctively went No Contact and it worked for me !! I learned to have papers ready for the police about her accusations and got to know them on first name basis so that when someone tried to break into my home while I was there alone, the police were there right away. I suspect she was behind the break-in attempt as it was a group of people who were more bent on intimidating me with screaming threats and name calling (some of which could have only come from her), although I don’t know what might have happened if they had successfully gotten hold of me physically. The most important piece that kept me safe and sane was permission to have my feelings in the moment which my peer group provided me. I was never fooled by her or successfully manipulated by her again. I was never within a 1000 mile radius of her again (conscious decision). Yes, I was extraordinarily lucky to be able to make the decision to be physically unavailable to her.
Careful with my brother
When she passed away in 2003 and I traveled to attend her funeral, I was “ready” for the snide remarks towards me, I was ready for the claims I had severely disappointed my parents (meaning my mother), I was ready for all of it and it definitely came. I also saw my older brother for the first time in years and got really clear that he had gone back and forth under pressure and had yet to begin recovery. He still struggles I think because he does not see that it is NOT his fault and actually had nothing to do with him. That 1-year experiment when I catered to the majority of her supply needs cured me of thinking I could change her in any way. He never got to have that lesson and cannot understand when I talk about my recovery journey. For now, he is fragile and I am careful with him. We did have an amazing moment — in the movie, “The Savages,” the brother and sister were making care decisions for a parent who had been abusive. During one conversation, they said, “we are taking better care of him than he ever did of us.” My brother and I had that moment — wow — what a load off our shoulders when we realized we are separate souls from hers and that we are okay — not without our nightmares and recovery issues — but our souls are okay. We did make sure her needs were met as she aged, although we both knew enough to stay away for our personal safety and to avoid police involvement from false accusations.
Grounding my experience
I came to LF because of a current relationship issue and here is where I have begun to completely ground all I have learned, with ways to organize my thoughts and experiences, with blogs from peers (oh how I value all my peers), with reminders that I have more work to do and a path that I am determined will continue forward. My best medicines ?? Quality listeners, plenty of sleep (still recovering from years of sleep deprivation and hypervigilance issues) and reality checks (it was always about keeping the supply coming).
When I started writing this, I had no idea I would end up on a positive note — I usually don’t write at all — so this is way cool. Thanks for being here.
Hi Aesop!
I like your name.
Me too, I had insomnia for 25 years while he snored away every night – when he managed to come home.
I every sleeping medication and nothing worked. I would take my ambien and then clean the house instead of going to sleep. Finally I would wake up the next morning with amnesia and couldn’t remember cleaning the house.
Even when I moved into my own bedroom, it only helped a little bit. I see now that I was FIGHTING my sleep because I knew I was living with a spath.
Insomnia in yourself might be a red flag that you are living with a spath. I’m told that I never napped during the day as a baby either, so that makes sense because my parents are N’s and P’s.
Hi Skylar. How you doing?
I finally found a job. I’m back where I’ve worked twice before. Cooking and waiting tables at a diner. It’s exhausting work….my feet hurt and my back’s stiff at night, but I feel so much more hopeful, and I feel like I’m mKING MY Way. I have enough money to enjoy my spare time, and I really apreciate it now. Life is looking up.
Hope all is well for you, too.
Hi Kim,
I’m happy to hear you’re making progress.
I missed your discussions on Girardian theory, they were very instrumental in my healing. I wonder if you know how much you’ve helped me?
give pinky doodle a hug for me.
I’m working on a new name everyday. I hope it will change soon. The 5 months I have been reading here on LF has helped me heal more than 3 years of walks, writing, crying and screaming to get it out, more than anything. 🙂
woundlicker, this has been one of my favorite parts of lurking on these boards: watching the name changes. It’s so endearing, the suggestions, the prodding… It’s very hopeful and validating and delightful to me. I see your sense of humor in all of your posts; I’m sure you will come up with something awesome, because as a lifelong animal lover and observer of nature I can appreciate the careful thought and heady imagery that went into choosing your current username. Can’t wait to see the new one!
Like I said before, I don’t have much time to spend on the internet. I come here for support when things get serious. Every time I come here, I have another confirmation of spathiness. My ex could force sex, call his married girl friend, slam me into the wall, and 5 min later sleep like a baby while I was afraid to breathe. He would scream in his dreams but never remember. He would talk to his girl friend in a very loving, soothing voice (in his dreams) but not remember.
I took the mosaic test and scored 197 (out of 200) meaning that I am in serious danger for the upcoming court date. I am afraid to drive my own car to mediation. Even my lawyer thinks I am over reacting. They don’t get it. You have to live it to get it.
Thanks ladies for blogging.
Thank you, Lady Ruiz!
I bet we have a lot in common. I just read about how you were not vulnerable as a child, but you were as an adult. Same exact thing with me. So many commonalities here with people on lovefraud that I have never experienced in my personal life. It amazes me everytime I come here.
I was amazed that the characteristics are so similar. And the sudden “love” shown when there is something at stake for her. In fact, the mother experience was and still is very appalling. I have mourned this my entire life, and LF has been very helpful. Just to say to those who have suffered…. the best answer is to live your life and leave these people behind as much as possible… and find peace each and every day as you heal. Every stupid and horrible thing my mother did haunted me for years and years. Then one day I read something about how the “emotions” were the deepest part of our belief system… hence when I wasn’t loved, I wasn’t loveable…. so I created a myth about my mother in order to heal myself. I imagined things that were good (mixed up things to make this real enough.) It worked and I hope this makes sense to others. I feel it is the negative charge from the negative memories that are the most toxic in my opinion. I created good from my own mind to heal.
Annnie, please see the “female offender” site for sexual abuse by females…it might give you some information that will be helpful to you. there’s a link here on teh blogroll on the left side of the LF screen.
BLUEMOON…the snoring could be the sympton of SLEEP APNEA and this is quite a serious condition. Get it checked out with your family doctor and get a referral to a sleep clinic.
somebodysdream: I am so sorry you are going through this. I understand about even your lawyer thinking you are over reacting….been there done that! Stay safe no matter who doesn’t believe you. (((hugs))) and God bless.
Hi Opal Rose ( LOVE your name!)
Your journey is a testament to how one can try to please a sociopath, ( never ) and how one can save themselves, and how we really need others who ‘been there’ too, to get that reality check. Your letter was like a healing balm for my soul and mind. If you hadn’t written this, i’d never understand that indeed, all those bad things DO happen when you go into NO CONTACT mode; gossip; group of her duped acquaintances hating you and not knowing the truth; and that you have no defenses but have to let them all think what they will. I have been through this too, but as a caregiver in a small retirement home where all 50 residents know each other very well. I unfortunately had the experience of taking care of a sociopath woman who put on a smile to others but ranted on and on how she hated them behind her doors. I was outgoing and cheerful and knew everyone there on a first name basis. I worked there for 5 years for this one woman. She at some point in time began to hate me too, unbeknownst to me. She put on a great act when I was around doing all her housework and running errands though. The entire apartment community began acting cold to me…little by little. She was spreading her poison bit by bit , night by night when they all gathered to talk around the living room area. I had no idea what was going on. I just thought these people were having a bad day that day, or didn’t feel well. This went on for a few years, until one day my boss called and told me I was let go’ and my client wanted a change. I was so hurt, so crushed! I didn’t realize how much this woman could hate another person, and never let them know, until it was me. I would not align myself with her ‘enemies’ and I liked everyone there– while she was gossiping about me — the whole time. I stayed home to ‘heal’ and regroup my self. The questions were deep, and we aren’t allowed to call and talk to a client when they make an aid change. Her 35 year old daughter walked past me ( i had another client in the same building on the same floor ) and shook her head and said, “Thank God she’s gone, she’s crazy”, to a neighbor, and that was thrown like a dagger into my heart. What was this lady telling people???
and why???
After 5 years of loyal care-giving? I quit working there altogether, and she told my other client things about me too, causing her to hate me ….and the whole community would not return even a hello. Talk about trauma to the soul. So when you talk about being 1000 miles away and people gossiping and hating you, thank goodness you had that distance!!! I ended up having to quit working there, and it was close to my home, i have to pass it everyday to the store, and think how all those people believe every ounce of hate that lady has for me. And i don’t know what all she has told them , but it must be really bad. My boss then asked in total desperation if I could take on a client there again, this lady re known for her bad temper and hitting the aids. I said ok. I had to walk back in there , and there were those who hated me, glaring at me. I held my head up and walked past them. I had to show them they didn’t hurt me after-all and no amount of their hate and believing made up lies about me is going to bring me down. They can believe whatever they wish. I had to walk past my ex-client the other day on the way out, she stopped talking ( loudly- can hear her bellowing down any hall ) and long enough for me to know she saw me, then she resumed her story at the same loud pitch, and I didn’t look at her, or acknowledge her in any way. I kept my face calm and serene. All those who believed her sat by her side, and these same people had i had been close to just 3 months ago, ( or so I thought ) saying hi and chatting about the weather and things. Now all of them, could feel the glares on my back. The new client is worse than anything I’ve encountered before. Your letter has really shed light onto this for me. She is a very greedy person who’s only daughter has put her out of her life for ever. This client revealed to me that her only living relative- her daughter – who is married and they have one daughter – told her the other night that although she loved her, she didn’t like her, and is never welcomed in her home again. I saw this woman put on the charm at the bank when she asked me to take her ( after work, so it’d be ok ) and turn it off again in a second. I was asked ( she’d wheelchair bound and 87 years old -weak knees ) if I would ‘accompany her’ to a town 20 miles away to get her eyebrows done ‘for free’ , meaning, take my car- on my time- and drive her there for free. I paid $8.00 for her meds and she never repaid me, yet in the same time had a magazine opened to a page that showed the next piece of furniture she wanted. She hasn’t hit me yet, but she will when I tell her I can’t drive her to Kentucky to visit her sister, and can not take her to the bank or this town on my off time, or volunteer buying her meds with my own money. The lines are blurred and I want to run away, and I probably will leave this job very soon, but not before standing my ground and telling her ‘ I can’t do that’ to her bizarre requests a couple of times. It would make me feel better to learn how to do that, stronger.
Your letter helps me to understand how a daughter can want NOTHING to do with their mother—and how it came to be that way. This woman at 87 was literally FLIRTING with the 30ish male banker!!! She is vain, has more makeup than a teen age girl, and thinks only of herself. I am not an aid, im a maid, to her. I can see why her daughter stays away and she is not welcomed as I was told a story the other day how her daughter wanted to fix up her house and this lady was going to let her daughter spend her own money to do it. It goes on and on. I am afraid she’ll do some gossiping of her own one day, or accuse me of something, or kick me– so Im planning an exit now.
The caregiver before me is under an investigation for taking this woman’s cash card and taking money out for herself—- and im beginning to wonder— who is the real victim here?
Im going to be next?
Some people, they just aren’t right.
I feel like im dumb when it comes to how really hateful and backstabbing and conniving other people can be. Its like im the perfect dummy for them. I think im going to go into business for myself, make dolls or paintings or something. Maybe just being a caregiver exposes us to those kinds of experiences. I just wanted to be a terrific caregiver. I truly cared. But anymore, I just need to truly care about myself.
Just like you did Opal Rose. I wish I had your group. Tell me how to start one!
Thank you for your letter- its like said, a healing testimony for others. I got a lot out of your experiences. And you wrote it very well. If I seem more talkative about my own issues, im sorry. The thing is, THANK YOU for writing us your story!!!!