UPDATED FOR 2024. Editor’s note: The following was written by the Lovefraud reader who posts as “Quest.” He identifies what he believes is the shut down mechanism that psychopaths use on their victims.
As most of us know what its like to be a psychopath victim; I am not going to go into all the details of my relationship with a full-blown psychopathic woman that turned my life into a living hell in just 18 months. What I really want to talk about is the mental effects that this woman was able to inflict upon me without my conscious realisation; gaslighting it’s called.
Just so there is a little background, I am a 55-year-old male and split from my ex psychopath female mate three years ago. We were in a relationship for 18 months. At the time we split up, I knew the relationship was beyond repair, but had very little understanding of what had really happened to make the relationship such a disaster.
Two weeks before I left, I had been on the Internet researching mental disorders and had by chance run into the classification “psychopath.” At the time my real knowledge of the intimate details of the psychopathic condition were pretty limited. Anyway I Googled psychopath and found Lovefraud.com, and as they say, the rest is history.
What had she done?
Two weeks after leaving I realised that I was now damaged goods. Many times I found myself asking myself, what had this woman done to me and how did she do it??? I read every book I could find on the subject, about 20 in all, but still did not seem to have a satisfactory answer to my question, and certainly no real way of fixing what had been done. Most of the books that seem to have been written about the psychopathic condition tend to deal more with describing the psychopath themselves, which is great, rather than figuring out what exactly has happened to the minds of the victims of these monsters.
So what were my symptoms? Initially it was hard to get a grip of even this concept. On weekends I slept til noon; on weekdays I had to force myself out of bed to go to work. I was in a state of awareness that I can only describe as being hypervigilant for other psychopaths, or the possibility of them. Basically everyone I met was a potential psychopath until proven otherwise. Paranoia was rampant. I actually feared psychopaths, as I did not understand what this one woman had done to my mental state, or even how she had done it. This left me open and vulnerable to the possibility of running into another psychopath and not knowing how to defend myself. I had no clue as to what I was defending myself against.
As time passed. I learned how to see psychopaths. It was as if a sixth sense had been awakened and I was wired to the symptoms of psychopathy. Any symptom set the alarm bells ringing in my mind. Well, all this knowledge and awareness was great, but I still could not fix the damage. Some days there would be realisations, some days were great, others not so great. Sometimes while in a crowded room I would suddenly be overcome with paranoia and have to leave. What was going on? It was as if my own awareness of myself had somehow been turned off and I did not know where the ON button was.
In the last three years I have talked to many people about psychopathy. Some found it fascinating, some were victims themselves and could recognise what I was talking about. Most did not seem to have a clue as to what I was talking about and basically thought I was nuts.
Spelling error
So — “O like Umbrella” — where does that fit in you may ask? Well, one day while at work, I was on the phone talking to an East Indian guy. He was going to buy some products from the company I work for, and we were going to be shipping what he bought to him. Well, the guy’s name was one of those ones that you can’t pronounce or spell. He proceeds to spell his name — B like Bob, A like Apple, O like Umbrella — ????????????
He continued to spell but I heard nothing because my mind was stuck on, “O like Umbrella.” What had happened?
Well, while this was happening another part of my awareness had the sudden realisation that I had just been shut down. There was no “O” in “umbrella” and because he had said something that made no sense, my mind had basically shut down. At this point there was a kind of eureka moment, as I realised that that was how psychopaths get into the minds of their victims.
Anyone who has spent any time in an intimate relationship with a psychopath knows that things get very confusing at times. What appears to happen to the victim is a kind of mental shut down that seems to happen at a subconscious level, beyond the normal conscious awareness of the victim. The victim, not realising what is happening, slowly gets lulled into an almost vegetative state where they can hardly recognise themselves. It feels like their very essence or soul has been sucked right out of them, leaving a confused, rudderless entity, almost a zombie.
So what is happening here? Did I just have the ultimate realisation about psychopath victims because I had been able to watch my own mind get shut down by a spelling mistake? The East Indian thought “umbrella” was spelt “ombrella.”
Nonsense
As the days went by, I often thought about and talked about my revelation. How relevant was it? Would it make a difference? What I began to realize was that I now knew what my psychopathic ex had done to me, SHUT ME DOWN, and also I knew how she did it.
Having a conversation with a psychopath is not like having a normal conversation, especially if you are in a relationship with them. Initially in the early days of the relationship, everything seems normal. As time goes on, however, things tend to slowly become confused. Every conversation turns into a never-ending argument that seems to go round in circles, until the victim just gives up. Nothing is resolved and the arguments become more and more frequent, and more and more confusing.
The victim tries to make sense of what is going on around them. What they don’t realise is, nothing is supposed to make sense. The psychopath is in full attack mode on the victim’s sanity. The psychopath is basically talking nonsense, but the victim is not aware that it is nonsense, or that they are under premeditated attack. As the victim’s mind tries to make sense of the babble, not realising that its not supposed to make sense, because it almost does make sense, some part of the persons thinking processes shuts down. How this really works I am not sure, but I feel as if I am getting close to the realisation of it.
Shut down mechanism
One thing about the “O like Umbrella” incident was that I now had knowledge of how the shut down process works. Now, suddenly, I knew what had been done, shut down, and how it had been done. Suddenly the fear was gone, I now knew what I was defending myself against.
Read more: Gaslighting — 5 key points you need to understand
If it doesn’t make sense it’s probably nonsense and you are probably dealing with a psychopath. Because a psychopath is so good at hiding nonsense in amongst sense, most people miss the nonsense. Being aware of this puts the power in the hands of the victim or potential victim. If the victim is aware of the nonsense, it can’t shut them down, I hope. At this point, I at least feel more relaxed than I have in a long time.
So gaslighting shuts the victim down mentally. I feel it is important to realise this, because once a victim is shut down, it will take a long time to wake them up again. I guess the revelation here is realising the relationship between gaslighting and the shut down mechanism. It’s all in the nonsense.
If one can listen to the nonsense and realise that it is indeed nonsense, then theoretically, it will not shut the victim down, hopefully. I have yet to prove this concept. I’ll need to find another psychopath to test the theory.
Learn more: Tools for navigating narcissists and other manipulative people
Lovefraud originally posted this article on Jan. 15, 2011.
shabby–
Im gonna look at your Oprah stuff now. I have to. I have hit bottom. I want to go to bed and never, ever wake up.
I would love to watch it with you and talk on phone sometime.
this cold weather does not help, does it?.
akitameg,
like we are becoming fond of saying here: ‘we are the worst club with the best people.’ you know we all have felt/ feel exactly as you do, ‘sooooooooo alone, misunderstood, burned and stupid.’
I hear your pain. just let it all out. every time one of us takes the risk to reveal as part of our healing, we help others here. healing is a selfless act in this regard.
i don’t think i have gotten to the bottom of my feelings of stupid yet, it’s placed aside as i focus on survival. mine comes mostly from the judgment of others. so i have lost all those people – they’ve gone or i have pushed them away. and then, because of the spath i also figured out a few more things about my family, that made me go nc with most of them. so, I am very alone also. and it has become soothing. i really can’t deal with other people’s discomfort with my life. *I* need to deal with my life, and i am starting to be grateful for the lack of friends.
burned – yep. i still want to kill her. the anger is a steady strong flame, but more moments than not the door is shut on the furnace and i don’t light things on fire all day long. conflict cause me great anxiety now. stress causes me great anxiety now. but i figured out pretty quick that i have ptsd; I am getting treatment, and it’s helping.
I think it will take quite a while for me to get back up on my feet in a real and lasting way. right now i am pulling myself up from the floor. i know that my job situation will greatly help or hinder this. – i have 2 months left on my contract – if i am unemployed for long i will be crawling again. but i don’t focus on the crazed fear of that knowledge. I am in today as much as possible – because i realize i cannot even deal with cleaning up the recent past, i need time, rest, healing, energy coming back to my mind and body. i only have energy for that. i only really have energy to help myself. there is so much to do. and i need and WANT to do it.
(((((hugs)))))
onejoy
akita – he was love bombing you. NO ONE who is serious about making a commitment to marry and have babies starts talking about that quickly. NO ONE.
and she, she is supply. he hasn’t let her go, or she him.
you sound depressed. a situational depression. the guides for getting out of that: exercise, good food, do something that engages you, thrills you; and undo the underpinning of it – WHY DO YOU FEEL THIS WAY? BECAUSE BEING REJECTED IS A HOOK FOR YOU. Focus on that, on undoing that. it’s not about him. keep repeating that. it’s about you.
(((((hugs)))))
I have told this to no one, but here I go. Taking a big risk here, but need help.
I am blaming his abandonment of me on myself b/c I called the a woman when I saw that his phone was in her name! I wanted to be sure I was not involved with another liar.
Well– he said he understood and he should have explained things to me first. This was an ex who bought him the phone for xmas two yrs prior and he always paid the bill– which I did see. That they were just friends now. That’s why he moved to VA from Mass where she is. And she is 13 yrs older and he wants a baby. He moved away a yr ago to start over in VA.
So– when he called from Mass (he is there finishing a house)– he said “I am still gathering data.” He meant data on the call I made to her. What time I made it– how I got her number– and what I told her.
He said not to worry– that when he got back here we were gonna sit down and work thru it and if I ever had a question about him again– to go to him– not an outside source. Well- I did not go to him– B c I have been conned by spaths before and going to them– is part of the web in which thy keep you blinded.
So– in my mind– I am thinking that she has told him stuff that has turned him off to me. Little did I know she still loves him– so of course she is going to try and make me look bad. “Oh– don’t go for her Brain– she is crazy and you can’t trust her cuz she called me.”
as a lot of you know- I had googled him a month ago and saw that he was in trouble with the attorney general of NY for being a fraudulent contractor. Having to sell his home and pay victims 124,000. That is what the articles say– but that is not reality according to him. “You can’t believe everything you read on the internet. Talk to my bro or talk to me!”
Between that and seeing his phone was in a woman’s name in Mass– heck yeah– no more SP’s– let me check this out before I get too involved.
He explained the fraudulent stuff too. Contractors– esp a big company like his– are sued every year. Like doctors. He had only 16 people sue him in 16 yrs.
His bro is a big shot stock broker here and Brain gets all of his work from his bro’s referrals. WEll known, successful DC people. He said, “If I were so bad– do you think my brother would give me and trust me with these big names.? He would be held responsible for referring a bad contractor. I can’t mess up- not to mention, my bro would then have nothing to do with me.” he told me that his bro expalins the hard times Brian had to his clients and asks them to look at his work (gorgeous)) and to talk to his happy clients first. He had a psyco, abusive ex gf of 9 yrs– who called the Attorney General on him when he was trying to break up with her!
SO MY LF FAM–
I blame this entirely on myself. Maybe I should not have called that chic who his phone was under. She was even grateful I did and thanked me. We were there for each other. Well– she somehow gave in– and told him everything I told her about my two weeks with him. I did not care what i told her– cuz I never, ever planned on seeing him again- after what I saw on internet.–
but then he explained all that and explained the ex gfriend in Mass.
So I am thinking– if I had not made that call– he may still want to have a relationship with me. So now he prob thinks I am just another psyco bitch. Even though I explained my PTSD and he said he understood and to just not do it again. I told him I never would.
My fault?
but why did he call me two nights ago from Mass (I was not able to get phone) and then not leave a msg? And I have not heard from him since?
I wish God would come down and give me the anwers. The whys. Why??????????????????????????????????????? Was it the phone call to the girl in Mass?
Is he an alcoholic like the exgf said– but he says he’s not– that he was stress drinking from PTSD and saw a therapist and preist for it– who both said he was not a true alchy.
He wanted to start going to church with me when he got back!
What the heck you guys?
One more thing and I will stop–
I did a photo shoot for my work. At the end- I asked the pro photographer to take some gorgeous photos of me– one in awesome lengerie (a classy photo)– and I was going to put it in a card for Valentine’s Day. The photo is amazing. I feel sooooo sick that he will never see it. What a waste. It’s not slutty. Victoria’s Secret type thing.
I have a fantasy of just emailing or sending him the photo anyway– and telling him that it was taken for him when I thought we were in a relationship. At least he could remember me by the beautiful photo.
🙁
I’m gonna go to gym today (even though I’m getting to thin) and then get my hair done- for no reason.
I will watch and cher for the Bears somewhere. I will think of my wonderful bro working there in the skybox.
I AM SOOOOOOOOOOOO SAD I CAN HARDLY MOVE. NO JOKE YOU GUYS.
He was EVERYTHING I have been waiting for in a man. Hilarious!!!! Can do manly stuff like build and fix things. Irish- I’m half Irish. Athletic. Tall and was so sensitive. I even saw him cry when I hurt his ex gf by calling her. He wanted to be the one to tell her b/c she is a fragile woman with PTSD. he cooks! Loves kids. I have never felt that connected to someone in my life– and I was married to an angel.
Beyond sad. I wish i could roll up in a ball and die from this pain.
but I can’t.
I love you all.
I told him I had had something horrible happen to me too, but that I was not ready to tell him. and that I was not going to be like his exgirl friend who got hurt 12 yrs ago and still keeps her door baracaded.
My story is worse than hers, trust me.
We all go through the could of – should of – would of’s…reading all your past post, this guy is a sociopath and is enjoying every minute of making you suffer, making you crazy…he is still winning….they are master’s at shifting the blame on you and they will play the game forever, they have no limit’s..he is enjoying this dance ..are you? Do you want to keep feeling like this? Tear up those picture’s and go get you some self esteem…..
(((( Akita )))))))
**sigh**…
I understand completely the pain you’re in. I’m so glad you’re posting through all of this. I know that when mired in pain, I’m going to get straight answers here. There have been times where it’s been what I’ve NOT wanted to hear. I’ve wanted people here to partake in my denial and fantasy and validate THAT, not that my spath is, well, a spath.
Having said that, I’ll probably say what you’re not wanting to hear.
You’re definitely on the merry go round. Last love bomb of exPOS told me that her Uncle was a psychologist and said to her once, “If you get on the merry go round with the bastard, you’re going to go around and around until you decide to get off and stay off!” Pretty simple. That’s what I see here. Slicing and dicing, reading his “emotions” (he has none) and doubting your perceptions (clearly) for a fantasy that will NEVER come true with him. This is my concern for you as I read through your posts, particularly with the phone call to the xgf. Right now, EVERYTHING you do, every single WORD uttered out of your mouth as well as ACTIONS, he is USING to create a situation that is triangulated. He’s playing the victim role and setting BOTH of you up. He knows about your fantasy with regards to home, hearth, children and family. That’s part of your hook, Akita. The other is abandonment.
This man is lying to you. He’s lying to her. You cannot take a ROCK and turn it into a marshmallow.
My other huge concern here, is that a REAL and TRUE relationship takes A LONG TIME to build. You know NOTHING about this man except the LIES he’s been telling and the GAMES he’s been playing. That’s enough right there. If xgf buys into the lies, that’s HER problem and I’m sure she has issues as well as HE plays into.
Akita, in soooooooooooooooo many ways, you are FORTUNATE……and I’m not talking about your pain, this is your wake up call, and you got it without spending months/years in another relationshit. I can tell you, and I’m sure alot of others here can, that we all WISH that had happened earlier on in the relationshits we’ve had.
Why do you continue to seek him out? A liar? A deceiver? Why do you want to get back on the merry go round after he left???
What he wants you to do, is EXACTLY what you’re doing now. He wants you to pine, beg, seek out, be in pain, play games, be unpredictable, lie, cheat, blame, play the victim. The elements are right there SCREAMING in your face. About his fam? Well, there are many stories here to which the ex’s fam were basically accomplices in the game. While there may be a TINY bit of truth to what he’s saying, or even doing, that’s where this man is the MOST dangerous!!!!! One truth out of ten lies, does NOT make it the truth, akita and that’s why we stay on the merry go round. We don’t want to believe the NINE OTHER LIES.
Get OFF the Merry go round, chica. I don’t think this man is going to stop playing with you. Obviously. This is where you’re going to have to be VERY strong. This is about you now. This is about standing up against the lies, and facing the truth through pain and working on yourself. What about this situation is so appealing to you? What part of YOU is being hooked? What issues do you need to work on and fix inside of yourself that this man wants to use and destroy? You’re not going to be the love of his life akita. And if you DID have babies with this man, the pain you’re in now, would be, in your case I believe, LIFE THREATENING.
WORK ON YOU!!! NC NC NC NC NC NC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LL
akita – only sued by 16 people in 16 years?????? bwahhaa sorry, but that’s BS – that’s NOT normal. twice in 16 years i’d buy. and why do you think she is a fragile woman with PTSD?????
akita – it’s NOT ABOUT HIM. right now you are bargaining so that you don’t have to feel the pain of rejection. that’s all it is. he was NEVER going to be anything to you. he’s a con artist. all those unmet needs that he tweaked within you, would remain unfulfilled. this is EXACTLY how my spath conned me – tapped into those wants and needs i figure will never be met in my life, set the bait and then jerked me around on the line. IT’S ALL JUST A CON. IT’S HOLLOW AND CORRUPT AND NOT REAL.
you do those things – your hair, exercise, the game,and you eat some damn fat, too. not crap, but something with some extra protein and fat.
you have to keep telling yourself, that it’s not about him; IT’S ABOUT YOU. And every moment that you can even see the glimmer of truth in that you are one step closer to true freedom.
LL – ‘You’re not going to be the love of his life akita. And if you DID have babies with this man, the pain you’re in now, would be, in your case I believe, LIFE THREATENING. ‘ Well said!
thankyou Lesson LEarned. I need yall’s honesty sorry for typos.
One Joy Step
he said the woman had a husband or bfreind that tied her up with duct tape and then shot himself in front of her. Honestly– I have ha worst done
Brian was the first she had sex with in 12 yrs. she did tell me that.
she helped take care of him with a pace to stay and phone and getting him dressed for court– that he went to with griend of nine yrs who abused him and put a brook handle thru his leg.
I gotta leave now. hair
wish I had laptop.
Lesson– NC NC NC NCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNCNC
need your energy LF.
I feel so rejected and sick
would I have been the love of his life if I had not called exgirlfriend