UPDATED FOR 2024. Editor’s note: The following was written by the Lovefraud reader who posts as “Quest.” He identifies what he believes is the shut down mechanism that psychopaths use on their victims.
As most of us know what its like to be a psychopath victim; I am not going to go into all the details of my relationship with a full-blown psychopathic woman that turned my life into a living hell in just 18 months. What I really want to talk about is the mental effects that this woman was able to inflict upon me without my conscious realisation; gaslighting it’s called.
Just so there is a little background, I am a 55-year-old male and split from my ex psychopath female mate three years ago. We were in a relationship for 18 months. At the time we split up, I knew the relationship was beyond repair, but had very little understanding of what had really happened to make the relationship such a disaster.
Two weeks before I left, I had been on the Internet researching mental disorders and had by chance run into the classification “psychopath.” At the time my real knowledge of the intimate details of the psychopathic condition were pretty limited. Anyway I Googled psychopath and found Lovefraud.com, and as they say, the rest is history.
What had she done?
Two weeks after leaving I realised that I was now damaged goods. Many times I found myself asking myself, what had this woman done to me and how did she do it??? I read every book I could find on the subject, about 20 in all, but still did not seem to have a satisfactory answer to my question, and certainly no real way of fixing what had been done. Most of the books that seem to have been written about the psychopathic condition tend to deal more with describing the psychopath themselves, which is great, rather than figuring out what exactly has happened to the minds of the victims of these monsters.
So what were my symptoms? Initially it was hard to get a grip of even this concept. On weekends I slept til noon; on weekdays I had to force myself out of bed to go to work. I was in a state of awareness that I can only describe as being hypervigilant for other psychopaths, or the possibility of them. Basically everyone I met was a potential psychopath until proven otherwise. Paranoia was rampant. I actually feared psychopaths, as I did not understand what this one woman had done to my mental state, or even how she had done it. This left me open and vulnerable to the possibility of running into another psychopath and not knowing how to defend myself. I had no clue as to what I was defending myself against.
As time passed. I learned how to see psychopaths. It was as if a sixth sense had been awakened and I was wired to the symptoms of psychopathy. Any symptom set the alarm bells ringing in my mind. Well, all this knowledge and awareness was great, but I still could not fix the damage. Some days there would be realisations, some days were great, others not so great. Sometimes while in a crowded room I would suddenly be overcome with paranoia and have to leave. What was going on? It was as if my own awareness of myself had somehow been turned off and I did not know where the ON button was.
In the last three years I have talked to many people about psychopathy. Some found it fascinating, some were victims themselves and could recognise what I was talking about. Most did not seem to have a clue as to what I was talking about and basically thought I was nuts.
Spelling error
So — “O like Umbrella” — where does that fit in you may ask? Well, one day while at work, I was on the phone talking to an East Indian guy. He was going to buy some products from the company I work for, and we were going to be shipping what he bought to him. Well, the guy’s name was one of those ones that you can’t pronounce or spell. He proceeds to spell his name — B like Bob, A like Apple, O like Umbrella — ????????????
He continued to spell but I heard nothing because my mind was stuck on, “O like Umbrella.” What had happened?
Well, while this was happening another part of my awareness had the sudden realisation that I had just been shut down. There was no “O” in “umbrella” and because he had said something that made no sense, my mind had basically shut down. At this point there was a kind of eureka moment, as I realised that that was how psychopaths get into the minds of their victims.
Anyone who has spent any time in an intimate relationship with a psychopath knows that things get very confusing at times. What appears to happen to the victim is a kind of mental shut down that seems to happen at a subconscious level, beyond the normal conscious awareness of the victim. The victim, not realising what is happening, slowly gets lulled into an almost vegetative state where they can hardly recognise themselves. It feels like their very essence or soul has been sucked right out of them, leaving a confused, rudderless entity, almost a zombie.
So what is happening here? Did I just have the ultimate realisation about psychopath victims because I had been able to watch my own mind get shut down by a spelling mistake? The East Indian thought “umbrella” was spelt “ombrella.”
Nonsense
As the days went by, I often thought about and talked about my revelation. How relevant was it? Would it make a difference? What I began to realize was that I now knew what my psychopathic ex had done to me, SHUT ME DOWN, and also I knew how she did it.
Having a conversation with a psychopath is not like having a normal conversation, especially if you are in a relationship with them. Initially in the early days of the relationship, everything seems normal. As time goes on, however, things tend to slowly become confused. Every conversation turns into a never-ending argument that seems to go round in circles, until the victim just gives up. Nothing is resolved and the arguments become more and more frequent, and more and more confusing.
The victim tries to make sense of what is going on around them. What they don’t realise is, nothing is supposed to make sense. The psychopath is in full attack mode on the victim’s sanity. The psychopath is basically talking nonsense, but the victim is not aware that it is nonsense, or that they are under premeditated attack. As the victim’s mind tries to make sense of the babble, not realising that its not supposed to make sense, because it almost does make sense, some part of the persons thinking processes shuts down. How this really works I am not sure, but I feel as if I am getting close to the realisation of it.
Shut down mechanism
One thing about the “O like Umbrella” incident was that I now had knowledge of how the shut down process works. Now, suddenly, I knew what had been done, shut down, and how it had been done. Suddenly the fear was gone, I now knew what I was defending myself against.
Read more: Gaslighting — 5 key points you need to understand
If it doesn’t make sense it’s probably nonsense and you are probably dealing with a psychopath. Because a psychopath is so good at hiding nonsense in amongst sense, most people miss the nonsense. Being aware of this puts the power in the hands of the victim or potential victim. If the victim is aware of the nonsense, it can’t shut them down, I hope. At this point, I at least feel more relaxed than I have in a long time.
So gaslighting shuts the victim down mentally. I feel it is important to realise this, because once a victim is shut down, it will take a long time to wake them up again. I guess the revelation here is realising the relationship between gaslighting and the shut down mechanism. It’s all in the nonsense.
If one can listen to the nonsense and realise that it is indeed nonsense, then theoretically, it will not shut the victim down, hopefully. I have yet to prove this concept. I’ll need to find another psychopath to test the theory.
Learn more: Tools for navigating narcissists and other manipulative people
Lovefraud originally posted this article on Jan. 15, 2011.
Akita,
Do you realize how much BETTER you sound right now than earlier today????
GOOD FOR YOU CHICA!! BACK IN THE SADDLE!! GIDDY UP GIRL!!
LL
UGH!
I’m hurting so badly tonight. I keep thinking about him with his new gf. I wish this would just go away. It’s irritating to me for soooo many reasons……
I’m worried about running into him/them. I’m not ready for that. I keep thinking, she’s probably beautiful and a nice woman….with money, whose established.
And I’m not.
LL
lesson learned , Maybe I didn’t say that right . Running into the X was not the problem although that was certainly not pleasant either . The problem was understanding the shut down mechanism . I feared psychopaths because I did not understand how I had been shut down . I knew about the gas lighting concept but didn’t put the 2 together as cause and effect . My fear and overall paranoia was caused by not knowing what it was about these people that I was defending myself from . A physical attack I could have dealt with , but I had been attacked by something I could not percieve on any level and it had brought me to my Knees . It was like trying to defend myself against an invisble entity . What ever my X had done I was sure others could do the same . I suppose the silly part of it was that once I realised how I had been shut down the fear was gone . Suddenly I was wide awake . As far as figuring out how to defend myself , it didn’t matter , that was the easy part . Defending myself against babble , bullshit whatever you want to call it , is easy once you realise that it was just that that shut me down . Having said that I have had 3 years to think and ponder over all the aspects of the relationship and realising how rediculous it was . Just watch out for riddle talkers
Lesson Learned You get ‘your’ arse back in the saddle. Chances of you seeing him are slim. It’s ok to avoid places you might. If you do run into them and she is butt fugly will that make you feel even uglier? And if she has money and is established what does that tell you? She’s gettin screwed and tattoed.. LL when was the last time you got all dolled up and went out on the town? There are plenty o fish – go fishin…
skylar , Yes there was a child hiding in there somewhere . She would go to sleep holding a teddy bear . Sometimes I remember looking at her and thought to myself , she seems like a small child at this moment . Almost like split persoanality stuff . At the time the biggest problem was trying to decide what was real and what wasn’t, or was anything real .
DM,
Um, fishin is hardly what I need to be doing right now lol! I’d probably catch myself another SPATH. No thank you!!! BTW, DM, I got my hair done, gettin rid of the glasses tomorrow for contacts, am getting my health taken care of. Gonna buy a couple pairs of new jeans to go with my new look. NOW if I could just match the INSIDE with the OUTSIDE, I’ll be in great shape!
I’m newly out of it DM. It’s gonna take awhile, I think…..
Questy, I must have misunderstood you. Thanks for clarifying. While I grasp the concepts, I’m still dealing with the struggle of acceptance. This is a real stumbling block for me right now. I’m stuck on what many other posters here were probably stuck on too at one point or another……….will they change….or will they change with someone else? Was what I saw REAL? I’m still doubting my perceptions, no matter how obvious it may be.
LL
OK, got this thread to load, finally.
Quest,
a teddy bear…hmmmm.. talking in your sleep is a sign of an immature mind. did she do that? I’ll bet she did. Many spaths do. But I try to be open minded. Some of us are immature because of parental abuse and yet empathetic…but I don’t want my open mind to let my brain fall out again…
Hey One Joy/Step,
you sound better too! You need a (hug) to get your immune system going. Your empathy is amazing. You and Shabby Chic are so sweet. It’s no wonder you were targeted by spaths. You ooze it out everywhere. Please continue being as you are and keep a bullet proof vest on too. We need you to be there for us all. ((((((One))))))) they can’t beat us with guys like you on or team!
lesson learned . Just going to brain storm here and see what comes out . unfortunately what you saw in this guy was just a mirror image of yourself to a degree . What you have to realise is that he was a void . A dark black hole with nothing to give . You were looking to fall in love with a human being that would love you back . For the thing you fell in love with this was not a possibility . For them relationships are a one way street that leads straight to their darkest side , they only have one side . But eough about them , what about you . You feel as if you have fallen into an abyss . Nothing makes sense , you have been shut down . What are you left with . Total bewilderment and alone . what ever you do, do not run from the alone . You have too pick up the pieces and move on . Yeh I know, easy to say, not so easy to do . You have to tell yourself to wake up . Stand on a mountain top and yell it to the heavens . WAKE UP LESSON LEARNED . Use your own name of course . When you wake up in the morning say it out loud . WAKE UP LESSONED LEARNED . The last thing you say before going to sleep at night will be WAKE UP LESSON LEARNED . You were told to shut down by a psychopath, now it is time to wake yourself up . No one else can do it for you . You have to get comfortable with yourself again . Stay away from anyone who might be a psychopath . Sure as hell they will recognise your vulnerability . Buy yourself a journal and start writing stuff down . Write whatever comes into your mind , let the words flow . Keep telling yourself to wake up . Write that down as well . Good luck and sweet dreams and stay the course .
ps. do something physical and do it regularly , get the heart pumping and the muscles aching .
HELLO LESSON LEARNED WELCOME BACK TO THE REAL WORLD
Skylar . she did not talk in her sleep as far as I know , but then I sleep like a log anyways . One intrigueing thing was that she seemed not to move in her sleep . If I woke up before her she was in the exact same position she was in when she went to sleep . She always went to sleep on her back with the teddy on her stomach .
((((((((((( Questy ))))))))))))))) TY!!
“Whatever you do, do not run from alone”. SO HARD TO DO!!!
BLAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yea, a black hole a dark void……..the pits of hell. I know. Questy, HOW do I get comfortable with myself again when I don’t even know who MYSELF IS? Or what about this thought? If I know even a little about myself, it’s HATRED of myself? I just feel sooooooooo STOOOOOOOOOOOOPID!! I was thinkin about this Questy, about seeing him somewhere. You know what bugs me about that? THAT I’D BE BUGGED ABOUT THAT!!! That he got the best of me, took it, stomped on it, tossed it under the bus and walked away with a smirk!! THAT PISSES ME OFF! He will FLAUNT that shit in my face!!! He won’t say a word, not one WORD, but his facial expression and the lack of acknowledgment of me or viewing me as a casual stranger off the street would be more than my soul could bear right now. Questy, I’ve not written a word, except HERE. I’ve spent LITERALLY all day posting and reading my brains out!!! Trying to make sense of NONSENSE! CLEARLY I’m just a little depressed. A little bit PTSD.
Ok, I get the exercise thing. What did YOU do at first Questy? Did YOU write? Did YOU exercise? What HELPED?
I”m having trouble with “alone”. I mean, I don’t “mind” being alone, so to speak, but I just FEEL alone in the experience. I FEEL like I’ll BE alone the rest of my life. I feel like I’m mourning the reality that I’m OLD and won’t EVER be able to love anyone again like that, oh wait………..I HOPE not like that again, but I think you know what I mean here…..I feel………like my whole life has been abducted by spaths.
**sigh**……….I’ll try that Questy. Definitely will do the exercising. But truthfully, I don’t know what the hell I want, or who the hell I am or how the hell to fix myself. I’ve managed to attend to immediate concerns neglected such as my health and doing a few nice things for myself, such as hair, eyes checked, rid of glasses and contacts….therapy…..that’s actually a lot given how much time I was giving to spath and how much neglect (exception school and kids basic needs) my life has been.
I think too, I’m realizing that with this experience, I’m thoroughly confused. Why was this so different than any other? When I’ve had a lifetime of spaths? Why is it that right now I feel I’ll never be the same? So weird, before, I would have run out and wanted another relationshit, anything to take the pain away and distract me, but this time I just can’t. I know I have to “sit in it”, per se, for awhile.
And boy is it uncomfortable. I feel like I’m sitting in a pile of my own shit.
Thanks Questy. I’ll work on the sweet dreams
Sky, One………..you’re both very special people. I’ve learned so much from both of you and especially today where you’ve been there for me. You too tobe. So happy to email with you personally. I just want to thank you for walking through this with me. I know the road is long, but I’m willing to forge a path.
LL