UPDATED FOR 2024. Editor’s note: The following was written by the Lovefraud reader who posts as “Quest.” He identifies what he believes is the shut down mechanism that psychopaths use on their victims.
As most of us know what its like to be a psychopath victim; I am not going to go into all the details of my relationship with a full-blown psychopathic woman that turned my life into a living hell in just 18 months. What I really want to talk about is the mental effects that this woman was able to inflict upon me without my conscious realisation; gaslighting it’s called.
Just so there is a little background, I am a 55-year-old male and split from my ex psychopath female mate three years ago. We were in a relationship for 18 months. At the time we split up, I knew the relationship was beyond repair, but had very little understanding of what had really happened to make the relationship such a disaster.
Two weeks before I left, I had been on the Internet researching mental disorders and had by chance run into the classification “psychopath.” At the time my real knowledge of the intimate details of the psychopathic condition were pretty limited. Anyway I Googled psychopath and found Lovefraud.com, and as they say, the rest is history.
What had she done?
Two weeks after leaving I realised that I was now damaged goods. Many times I found myself asking myself, what had this woman done to me and how did she do it??? I read every book I could find on the subject, about 20 in all, but still did not seem to have a satisfactory answer to my question, and certainly no real way of fixing what had been done. Most of the books that seem to have been written about the psychopathic condition tend to deal more with describing the psychopath themselves, which is great, rather than figuring out what exactly has happened to the minds of the victims of these monsters.
So what were my symptoms? Initially it was hard to get a grip of even this concept. On weekends I slept til noon; on weekdays I had to force myself out of bed to go to work. I was in a state of awareness that I can only describe as being hypervigilant for other psychopaths, or the possibility of them. Basically everyone I met was a potential psychopath until proven otherwise. Paranoia was rampant. I actually feared psychopaths, as I did not understand what this one woman had done to my mental state, or even how she had done it. This left me open and vulnerable to the possibility of running into another psychopath and not knowing how to defend myself. I had no clue as to what I was defending myself against.
As time passed. I learned how to see psychopaths. It was as if a sixth sense had been awakened and I was wired to the symptoms of psychopathy. Any symptom set the alarm bells ringing in my mind. Well, all this knowledge and awareness was great, but I still could not fix the damage. Some days there would be realisations, some days were great, others not so great. Sometimes while in a crowded room I would suddenly be overcome with paranoia and have to leave. What was going on? It was as if my own awareness of myself had somehow been turned off and I did not know where the ON button was.
In the last three years I have talked to many people about psychopathy. Some found it fascinating, some were victims themselves and could recognise what I was talking about. Most did not seem to have a clue as to what I was talking about and basically thought I was nuts.
Spelling error
So — “O like Umbrella” — where does that fit in you may ask? Well, one day while at work, I was on the phone talking to an East Indian guy. He was going to buy some products from the company I work for, and we were going to be shipping what he bought to him. Well, the guy’s name was one of those ones that you can’t pronounce or spell. He proceeds to spell his name — B like Bob, A like Apple, O like Umbrella — ????????????
He continued to spell but I heard nothing because my mind was stuck on, “O like Umbrella.” What had happened?
Well, while this was happening another part of my awareness had the sudden realisation that I had just been shut down. There was no “O” in “umbrella” and because he had said something that made no sense, my mind had basically shut down. At this point there was a kind of eureka moment, as I realised that that was how psychopaths get into the minds of their victims.
Anyone who has spent any time in an intimate relationship with a psychopath knows that things get very confusing at times. What appears to happen to the victim is a kind of mental shut down that seems to happen at a subconscious level, beyond the normal conscious awareness of the victim. The victim, not realising what is happening, slowly gets lulled into an almost vegetative state where they can hardly recognise themselves. It feels like their very essence or soul has been sucked right out of them, leaving a confused, rudderless entity, almost a zombie.
So what is happening here? Did I just have the ultimate realisation about psychopath victims because I had been able to watch my own mind get shut down by a spelling mistake? The East Indian thought “umbrella” was spelt “ombrella.”
Nonsense
As the days went by, I often thought about and talked about my revelation. How relevant was it? Would it make a difference? What I began to realize was that I now knew what my psychopathic ex had done to me, SHUT ME DOWN, and also I knew how she did it.
Having a conversation with a psychopath is not like having a normal conversation, especially if you are in a relationship with them. Initially in the early days of the relationship, everything seems normal. As time goes on, however, things tend to slowly become confused. Every conversation turns into a never-ending argument that seems to go round in circles, until the victim just gives up. Nothing is resolved and the arguments become more and more frequent, and more and more confusing.
The victim tries to make sense of what is going on around them. What they don’t realise is, nothing is supposed to make sense. The psychopath is in full attack mode on the victim’s sanity. The psychopath is basically talking nonsense, but the victim is not aware that it is nonsense, or that they are under premeditated attack. As the victim’s mind tries to make sense of the babble, not realising that its not supposed to make sense, because it almost does make sense, some part of the persons thinking processes shuts down. How this really works I am not sure, but I feel as if I am getting close to the realisation of it.
Shut down mechanism
One thing about the “O like Umbrella” incident was that I now had knowledge of how the shut down process works. Now, suddenly, I knew what had been done, shut down, and how it had been done. Suddenly the fear was gone, I now knew what I was defending myself against.
Read more: Gaslighting — 5 key points you need to understand
If it doesn’t make sense it’s probably nonsense and you are probably dealing with a psychopath. Because a psychopath is so good at hiding nonsense in amongst sense, most people miss the nonsense. Being aware of this puts the power in the hands of the victim or potential victim. If the victim is aware of the nonsense, it can’t shut them down, I hope. At this point, I at least feel more relaxed than I have in a long time.
So gaslighting shuts the victim down mentally. I feel it is important to realise this, because once a victim is shut down, it will take a long time to wake them up again. I guess the revelation here is realising the relationship between gaslighting and the shut down mechanism. It’s all in the nonsense.
If one can listen to the nonsense and realise that it is indeed nonsense, then theoretically, it will not shut the victim down, hopefully. I have yet to prove this concept. I’ll need to find another psychopath to test the theory.
Learn more: Tools for navigating narcissists and other manipulative people
Lovefraud originally posted this article on Jan. 15, 2011.
Questy. Agreed, however, I still beg to differ. The one who is NOT the predator is experiencing what they believe to be love at the time, the predator is not.
LL
Questy, I’m tired, forgive me. Clarifying: I believed I was deeply in love with this man. I believe that I was. HE was not in love WITH me, thus the predator.
It doesn’t make MY experience any less real, or any less than worthy of what I believed it to be at the time: Love.
LL
lesson learned . I may have to go sleep on this one .
Questy
LOL! Sure. Let me know what you come up with. I’m open to learning more from your perspective as well as others here too.
Sweet dreams!
LL
Great meeting with attorney today!
She didn’t like spath calling her a f**en C and hanging up, she says he will pay…..(with a grin on her face).
We ‘reminisced’ about his deposition and all the stunts he pulled during divorce. She also told me ‘vague’ things about his first attorney’s comments about NOT wanting ANYTHING to do with him.
And his last attorney and how stupid he was…..and how he left the firm right after this case.
She said…..he was from a respectable firm……and he took DRUG MONEY for payment….it didn’t sit well and left the firm…..AND state!
It was good catching up…..with such a pitbull. 🙂
Ripping the scab off his wounds…….slowly here.
We’ll start with the house issue…..and work our way around to the others.
NICE!
I’m game….let’s DO IT!
Erin– I remember you from last yr. Hello.
So guys–
the “boyfriend” came back to town yesterday and texted me last night to come over!!!! I never responded.
I so wish I could respond that “I am not your DC whore, but thank you for talking to me like one.”
should I do it? he would know I was no longer an option and I would be defending myself and that would be it.
Or do I just continue to not respond? Please give me your opinions.
I so want to text what I just wrote above.
Valley Girl== One week no contact? Must be painful b/c it is still so fresh and if you are anything like me– a part of you still hopes he calls. Release on that and let’s both work on loving ourselves.
Quest– love what you wrote on the gas lighting and it’s many forms.
DAnces–
“I describe as a huge feeling of loss ”“ we lost the dream, some of us kicked it out the door.”
So right on.
I just want to let him know I am not a fuck buddy or a whore and I am insulted to be treated like one–
your’e back in town– and boom– invite me over after 10 pm.
I can’t believe this!
He pretty much blew me off the entire time he was gone. 3 weeks on a job in another state (Yeah, I be he got some “jobs” alright.”
Am I an escort service?
I am so angry. And sad.
Dream lost for sure Dances.
Can you even believe– that my mind just said, “If you don’t texst him back that you did not appreciate his request– and that is why you did not respond–
he may think you are with someone else- and THAT is the reason you did not return his call or come over.”
I honestly think this guy’s ego is that big. Like the only reason I would not return communication is b/c I was with another guy.
Should I just send him that text?
“Im not your DC whore and did not appreciate being texted like one?”
I actually want him to know why I am not interested. not that I am some chic who is with another guy.
and why do I care you are all wondering?
Cuz I really liked the guy he was for the two weeks I dated him. 🙁
he was sooooo funny and sensitive and gentlemanly and romantic and talented (his house building or whatever you call it.)
Yeah– he’s a craftsman alright.
to text or not to text? I just want him to know I am not a slut!
MEG, the BEST way to show him you are not a slut is to CUT HIM OFF WITHOUT SO MUCH AS A REPLY. Believe me, if you text him back you are RESPONDING TO HIM, and that is WHAT HE WANTS. It doesn’t matter if you tell him to go to hell, or what you tell, it is the FACT THAT YOU NOTICED AND RESPONDED TO HIM that is the REWARD for him.
NO RESPONSE drives them bat cheet! Back when NONE of us even my egg donor were responding to my P son’s letters he was going crazy trying to get some kind of response….ANY kind of response. It was actually funny how he was twisting and writhing on the spit like a roast over a fire, because no matter what he did no one responded at all. He even wrote a minister family friend and told him how un-christian we were because we wouldn’t give him UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. LOL
Well, my egg donor finally went back to responding to him and sending money but for that year he got no response and NO money, he was beside himself.
DO NOT RESPOND. NOT responding is SHOWING HIM that you are not a slut, and it is BETTER THAN WORDS. You know the drill Meg, NC, NONE, NADA, ZIP, ZERO, ZILCH….and yes,, at first it is difficult, because we want that “last word” but NO CONTACT is the last WORD! The BEST WORD!@....... This guy is not worth the energy. Just be GLAD and grateful you got out in 2 weeks, and the fact that you got hooked so badly in that short period of time makes me think you are VERY VULNERABLE to the fantasy of the “prince charming” so need to be working on strengthening your own self esteem etc. to where you are not so much worried about making a guy happy as HIM BEING WORTHY OF YOU!
It took me a LONG TIME Meg, to get there but I think I am finally after 6 1/2 years after my husband’s death about ready to where I am even “safe” to start a relationship because I no longer CRAVE one, I am COMPLETELY fine without one, and probably won’t find one, but that’s okay too. I won’t settle for less. We can all find a relation-shit if we lower our standards low enough, but I am not willing to do that, and I don’t think you are either. This guy is not worthy of your used toilet paper. (((hugs))))
Meg – You ain’t listening to us – your still mired in the mud – that phone number should of been changed a week ago…you want this to be over or are you still waiting for him to be someone he aint?…it’s up to you……
Akita,
I’d like to underscore what Oxy said, but kinda in a different way.
1. You don’t have to prove ANYTHING to him now.
2. One of the things that P’s just LOVE and a MAJOR sign that we have NO RESPECT FOR OURSELVES is by jumping into bed with them. Yes, he’s hot blah de blah da de blah….but SO WHAT?
One thing I’m learning, once you jump into bed with a spath and they are, INITIALLY, “irresistible” which is one of the “hooks”, you have LOST respect PERIOD!!! For yourself AND WITH HIM.
Well, you’ve already been there done that. So now, what you do, is you take YOUR SELF RESPECT BACK because you KNOW what he is. He believes because you’ve slept with him, that the boundaries are a free for all now. THEY COUNT ON THE INITIAL DISRESPECT OF YOURSELF to maintain the sexual/dreamlike HOOK they put into you. Does this make sense?
TAKE BACK your self respect. What’s done is done, BUT not letting him do it anymore, gives you back something he tried to take. Thank GOD you were not in this longer and learn a HUGE lesson here Akita.
NEVER EVER EVER again sleep with a man until MONTHS AND MONTHS Have passed when you’re dating.
LL