UPDATED FOR 2024. Editor’s note: The following was written by the Lovefraud reader who posts as “Quest.” He identifies what he believes is the shut down mechanism that psychopaths use on their victims.
As most of us know what its like to be a psychopath victim; I am not going to go into all the details of my relationship with a full-blown psychopathic woman that turned my life into a living hell in just 18 months. What I really want to talk about is the mental effects that this woman was able to inflict upon me without my conscious realisation; gaslighting it’s called.
Just so there is a little background, I am a 55-year-old male and split from my ex psychopath female mate three years ago. We were in a relationship for 18 months. At the time we split up, I knew the relationship was beyond repair, but had very little understanding of what had really happened to make the relationship such a disaster.
Two weeks before I left, I had been on the Internet researching mental disorders and had by chance run into the classification “psychopath.” At the time my real knowledge of the intimate details of the psychopathic condition were pretty limited. Anyway I Googled psychopath and found Lovefraud.com, and as they say, the rest is history.
What had she done?
Two weeks after leaving I realised that I was now damaged goods. Many times I found myself asking myself, what had this woman done to me and how did she do it??? I read every book I could find on the subject, about 20 in all, but still did not seem to have a satisfactory answer to my question, and certainly no real way of fixing what had been done. Most of the books that seem to have been written about the psychopathic condition tend to deal more with describing the psychopath themselves, which is great, rather than figuring out what exactly has happened to the minds of the victims of these monsters.
So what were my symptoms? Initially it was hard to get a grip of even this concept. On weekends I slept til noon; on weekdays I had to force myself out of bed to go to work. I was in a state of awareness that I can only describe as being hypervigilant for other psychopaths, or the possibility of them. Basically everyone I met was a potential psychopath until proven otherwise. Paranoia was rampant. I actually feared psychopaths, as I did not understand what this one woman had done to my mental state, or even how she had done it. This left me open and vulnerable to the possibility of running into another psychopath and not knowing how to defend myself. I had no clue as to what I was defending myself against.
As time passed. I learned how to see psychopaths. It was as if a sixth sense had been awakened and I was wired to the symptoms of psychopathy. Any symptom set the alarm bells ringing in my mind. Well, all this knowledge and awareness was great, but I still could not fix the damage. Some days there would be realisations, some days were great, others not so great. Sometimes while in a crowded room I would suddenly be overcome with paranoia and have to leave. What was going on? It was as if my own awareness of myself had somehow been turned off and I did not know where the ON button was.
In the last three years I have talked to many people about psychopathy. Some found it fascinating, some were victims themselves and could recognise what I was talking about. Most did not seem to have a clue as to what I was talking about and basically thought I was nuts.
Spelling error
So — “O like Umbrella” — where does that fit in you may ask? Well, one day while at work, I was on the phone talking to an East Indian guy. He was going to buy some products from the company I work for, and we were going to be shipping what he bought to him. Well, the guy’s name was one of those ones that you can’t pronounce or spell. He proceeds to spell his name — B like Bob, A like Apple, O like Umbrella — ????????????
He continued to spell but I heard nothing because my mind was stuck on, “O like Umbrella.” What had happened?
Well, while this was happening another part of my awareness had the sudden realisation that I had just been shut down. There was no “O” in “umbrella” and because he had said something that made no sense, my mind had basically shut down. At this point there was a kind of eureka moment, as I realised that that was how psychopaths get into the minds of their victims.
Anyone who has spent any time in an intimate relationship with a psychopath knows that things get very confusing at times. What appears to happen to the victim is a kind of mental shut down that seems to happen at a subconscious level, beyond the normal conscious awareness of the victim. The victim, not realising what is happening, slowly gets lulled into an almost vegetative state where they can hardly recognise themselves. It feels like their very essence or soul has been sucked right out of them, leaving a confused, rudderless entity, almost a zombie.
So what is happening here? Did I just have the ultimate realisation about psychopath victims because I had been able to watch my own mind get shut down by a spelling mistake? The East Indian thought “umbrella” was spelt “ombrella.”
Nonsense
As the days went by, I often thought about and talked about my revelation. How relevant was it? Would it make a difference? What I began to realize was that I now knew what my psychopathic ex had done to me, SHUT ME DOWN, and also I knew how she did it.
Having a conversation with a psychopath is not like having a normal conversation, especially if you are in a relationship with them. Initially in the early days of the relationship, everything seems normal. As time goes on, however, things tend to slowly become confused. Every conversation turns into a never-ending argument that seems to go round in circles, until the victim just gives up. Nothing is resolved and the arguments become more and more frequent, and more and more confusing.
The victim tries to make sense of what is going on around them. What they don’t realise is, nothing is supposed to make sense. The psychopath is in full attack mode on the victim’s sanity. The psychopath is basically talking nonsense, but the victim is not aware that it is nonsense, or that they are under premeditated attack. As the victim’s mind tries to make sense of the babble, not realising that its not supposed to make sense, because it almost does make sense, some part of the persons thinking processes shuts down. How this really works I am not sure, but I feel as if I am getting close to the realisation of it.
Shut down mechanism
One thing about the “O like Umbrella” incident was that I now had knowledge of how the shut down process works. Now, suddenly, I knew what had been done, shut down, and how it had been done. Suddenly the fear was gone, I now knew what I was defending myself against.
Read more: Gaslighting — 5 key points you need to understand
If it doesn’t make sense it’s probably nonsense and you are probably dealing with a psychopath. Because a psychopath is so good at hiding nonsense in amongst sense, most people miss the nonsense. Being aware of this puts the power in the hands of the victim or potential victim. If the victim is aware of the nonsense, it can’t shut them down, I hope. At this point, I at least feel more relaxed than I have in a long time.
So gaslighting shuts the victim down mentally. I feel it is important to realise this, because once a victim is shut down, it will take a long time to wake them up again. I guess the revelation here is realising the relationship between gaslighting and the shut down mechanism. It’s all in the nonsense.
If one can listen to the nonsense and realise that it is indeed nonsense, then theoretically, it will not shut the victim down, hopefully. I have yet to prove this concept. I’ll need to find another psychopath to test the theory.
Learn more: Tools for navigating narcissists and other manipulative people
Lovefraud originally posted this article on Jan. 15, 2011.
One LOL!
Funny you should say that. I kicked him OFF my yahoo. He was trying to access me as a buddy on his windows LIVE IM lol! It was an invite. I pushed ignored to the invite 🙂
Oxy,
Yep. ONe thing at a time. I smoke. Not ready to give it up yet. I will,and want too, but not yet. I’m just not ready for that undertaking right now.
Just getting back to the basics and paying attention to my body, physically and emotionally and spiritually is a HUGE undertaking right now. I’ve not done it for YEARS……..I’ve also been without sleep for a long LONG time through all of the stress, even with medications to HELP me sleep. I’m totally exhausted.
I’m not overweight, am at perfect weight. When I went to the doc time before last (within the last week, been there A LOT lately), the scale said 110. Scared the bejesus out of me. Went the next time and it was 125.5. My blood pressure was NORMAL for the first time in MONTHS……..my red cell and monocyte count is high right now. I had a mammogram done and ultrasound because there was a lump I found on my left breast, but doc found another that I’d missed and that one is a bit disconcerting for her. It’s immovable and is attached to the chest wall. I’ve still not received the results for that, but I’ve been asked questions such as “Have you had a fever lately, have you been feeling ill?” Well, YEA, bronchitis will do that to ya, as well as stress/anxiety, etc……..
The excessive fatigue, brain fog and such, I think comes from years and years of stress and anxiety… and now depression. I”ve spent way too many years taking care of others and neglecting my health. I DO eat when I’m hungry, have started walking my dog again in the morning, but then I’m exhausted again. It’s very frustrating!! I’m normally a very hyper woman. Excessive energy all over the place, but not now….it’s a first to listen to my body and my mind without spathy/ gotta take care of everyone else reactions/responses.
It’s SO uncomfortable to be so tired and lie down and feel GUILTY for sleeping!!! I have been trying to listen to my body more and put myself on a time clock to go to bed at night. I’ve not perfected this by any means yet LOL! and I’m up at six thirty every morning to take my son to school……after that, I can’t sleep.
Oxy, I’m learning that everything is SUCH a process!! If you knew me well, you’d wonder what the hell is wrong with me from the outside because I was the energizer bunny!! School, kids, everyone else’s issues…cooking, cleaning, studying, taking care of my children, others children and my paralyzed dog LOL……
I’m very tired. My therapist knows this too. My body and mind are trying to heal. I have to go at my own pace. I’m working very hard at visualizing a total picture of emotional/physical/spiritual health, but I don’t need/want to overwhelm myself with “shoulds” right now. It’s all the shoulds within my heart and mind that got me into all of this trouble in the first place.
SO I’ll hang onto my caffeine/smoke fix for now because I know as I become healthier, they won’t be a crutch for me anymore.
But right now, having given up spath, learning how to crawl, then to walk, is going to be VERY slow……..and the cigs and caffeine comfort me…….
One habit at a time……….one step at a time……….. One foot in front of the other with my precious puppy, everyday, one foot, step at a time……..and stopping long enough to smell the roses along the journey to recovery.
LL
Hi Lesson learned , Maybe I can give you some help with that smoking problem and with whatever else ails you . The concept is this . Your body has probably become acidic . You need to reverse that . Raw vegetables should be your main food source . Some fish if you wish even some chicken . The following you must avoid for the time being . Vinegar , use fresh lime instead of . No cereal products of any kind , meaning , no bread , no granola , no pasta , nothing that is made from a cereal . For the first while avoid fruit . No coffee or tea . Stinging nettle tea is allowed . No Dairy products . Avoid oils . You can use a liitle virgin olive oil to make fresh salad dressing . Do this for three weeks and see how you feel . Believe me you will not starve to death on this diet . It will also help clear your mind . The raw vegetables you should include for sure are , Beets , carrot , endive , parsley, lots of green leafy things , garlic ginger and anything else you fancy . good luck
LL – take it slow. take it easy. I am learning this too.
So much to unlearn.
I take an adrenal supplement, as well as many others – that i test for regularly. not suggesting that you take it, but i wanted to tell you how i found out what my deficiencies are and how i have been going about reversing them. this is basic care for me, right now. the first thing I had to do to begin to regain balance.
I supplemented for a few months, until my body felt like it could handle chemical detox. i am going for infrared saunas now and they are helping me a lot. I am so much saner and healthier than i was a year ago.
what i have come to know about my adrenals is that anxiety, conflict and tension, as well as any chemical exposure will immediately drop them to the ground. I have learned now, to take them before going into stress and immediately if i have stress or an exposure. I found out that i needed adrenal supps through this process: http://www.healthpursuitsgroup.com/nutrition.html#lendon
i am also going for neurofeedback for PTSD – huge shifts for me using it. http://www.brainandhealth.com/
one step at a time over here, too. 🙂
One,
Thanks so much for posting these links. I’ll check them out.
I’m still in process with my physical health right now. I’m having yet another full chemical/hormone/vitamin deficiency test done next week. My preference is to speak with my doc, depending upon those results, to see what alternative treatments might be available, as well as affordable for me to try. Alternatives can also be very expensive and not covered by my state funded insurance. I’m comfortable going at my own pace with this one right now. One, I need to be VERY careful about what supplements are cool and not cool to take. I’m on several medications, and call me paranoid, but my preference is to check with my doctor first before I add anything new. Last term, I read a lot about interractions that can be very dangerous and/or even unhealthy while people feel they are safe. Not so.
Questy, if I ate a strictly raw vegetable diet, I’d be in bed for as long as I ate them. I have severe IBS. I can’t eat raw veggies. The only “raw” veggies my gut can tolerate is leafy greens, such a salads and I eat those a lot. Anything other than that my gut bloats and the pain is excrutiating. Secondly, I need the whole grains and brans. I eat granola cereals to keep the bowels a movin 🙂 I do eat fish and we eat lots of chicken around here. I’m not a big beef eater. I drink A LOT of Dasani water. I carry a bottled water with me wherever I go. This seems to help A LOT. I drink two cups of coffee in the morning and that’s it, then make the switch to water. The smoking is a comfort for me, and I”m not ready to can it yet. One thing at at time 🙂
I see my doc today for an antidepressant. I’ll explore options with regards to supplements etc, once I get the results back from the chemical. I’m going through menopause and that certainly cannot be helping. It is possible that I could get a hysterectomy as my periods last two weeks with very heavy bleeding when I get them. This has been going on about a year now. I’ve heard that a hysterectomy makes ya feel like a new woman lol! I’d like to part ways with the uterus. 🙂
Thanks for the advice though.
LL
Oxy,
I have a question for you. When you were in therapy, how long did it take you to deal with childhood or past traumas? Was it necessary to go IN DEPTH about what created subsequent traumas after childhood? HOw long were you in therapy? Is it just a matter of understanding how childhood traumas and family dynamics play into what were your future choices, or did you need to revisit earlier traumas by “reliving” them in therapy? There seems to be conflicting professional opinions on this, but as time has moved on here early in the recovery process, I’m seeing that connecting the dots is essential in understanding the choices I’ve made as well as addressing the familiarity of abuse with those choices so as not to make the same mistakes over and over again. If you feel comfortable with my questions here, would you mind sharing your therapeutic experience?
LL
LL what is IBS and are you sure it is not caused by the cereals . Also there is plenty of roughage in vegetables . The other thing is to look at what you use for salad dressing . I have never heard of bloating from eating raw vegeables , thats about as neutral as you can get
I had Irritable bowl syndrome when I was in my twenties. I was told that it was from anxiety. When I was stressed, my weak point was in my colon. It would close up and stop the waste from moving out and then water backs up and causes bloating. It was VERY painful and I was told “an empty colon is not a happy one” and that I needed to eat small meals frequently. I was anorexic back then and didn’t eat. I was also told to avoid “roughage”…all the things that are good for you…raw veggies, even cooked broccoli would hurt…grainy bread and cereal. So, I ate chicken, fish, easy things to digest.
I still have bouts of it every now and then. The older doctor then told me to drink blackberry brandy to relieve the pain! lol It worked.
Its amazing how the body and mind are connected. If we listen to our body..its pain…we know whats going on in our mind.
When I was with the xbf, right after I had sex with him…my body was telling me something was wrong. I had hot flashes which were anxiety attacks…my heart would palpitate…I had to leave work. I blamed it on menopause. Even went on an estrogen patch!! I broke up with the x…went off of the patch, stopped having the symptoms…and I only get them now when I think of him and dwell on him for more than a minute.
I KNEW back then that it was him. I KNEW that I was getting involved with someone that wasn’t good for me. My BODY was telling me….
tobe,
I had a colonoscopy a few years back, because the pain was so unbearable for me. Even the meds they gave me during the procedure weren’t helpful!! THE ENTIRE THING WAS A NIGHTMARE. I was referred to a gastro because the pain and attacks were so debilitating for me. My gastro told me there was def inflammation in my colon and that I had one of the WORST cases of IBS he’s seen! In my med report it said SEVERE IBS. Stress DOES aggravate it, however, I was put on protonix AND ranitidine. I have to take them everyday or otherwise an attack will erupt. It has helped ALOT and the attacks are not as frequent, however, if I eat something, like you said, raw veggies, I’m DOWN!!! Questy, cereals are the only “roughage” my gut can take without an attack. tobe, I have to do the small frequent meals as well, I was also told to LISTEN to my body, if I was hungry eat, just not a lot at once. If I was not DON”T, drink lots of water, etc. I too, eat lots of fish and chicken. Some pastas bother me, rice doesn’t at all, and I love brown jasmine. I changed from vegetable oils when I cook, to strictly olive. BIG differences there! I cannot and do not eat many fried foods. I cannot tolerate sweets well. The only dairy I have in my diet is milk in my cereal and cheese and ice cream on occasion. Blackberry brandy? YUCK! LOL!!!
About the sex and your body telling you something was wrong.. I SO GET THAT!!! I would get attacks DURING sex and just learned to deal with the pain!! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT?? Last few times I was with him, I was nauseated and had great anxiety prior to sex and after. I also drank alcohol so I could relax enough to do it. ohhhhhhhhhhhhh the crazy shit I did….man…..
I CAN eat veggies that are steamed though. Not broccoli or cauliflower, but beans and carrots, etc. Have you been able to digest those tobe, if it’s not raw?
LL
Questy,
IBS is Irritable Bowel Syndrome and it’s NOT fun to have!
LL
Questy
Read up on IBS. What works for some, cannot and will not for others with this chronic illness 🙂
LL