UPDATED FOR 2024. Editor’s note: The following was written by the Lovefraud reader who posts as “Quest.” He identifies what he believes is the shut down mechanism that psychopaths use on their victims.
As most of us know what its like to be a psychopath victim; I am not going to go into all the details of my relationship with a full-blown psychopathic woman that turned my life into a living hell in just 18 months. What I really want to talk about is the mental effects that this woman was able to inflict upon me without my conscious realisation; gaslighting it’s called.
Just so there is a little background, I am a 55-year-old male and split from my ex psychopath female mate three years ago. We were in a relationship for 18 months. At the time we split up, I knew the relationship was beyond repair, but had very little understanding of what had really happened to make the relationship such a disaster.
Two weeks before I left, I had been on the Internet researching mental disorders and had by chance run into the classification “psychopath.” At the time my real knowledge of the intimate details of the psychopathic condition were pretty limited. Anyway I Googled psychopath and found Lovefraud.com, and as they say, the rest is history.
What had she done?
Two weeks after leaving I realised that I was now damaged goods. Many times I found myself asking myself, what had this woman done to me and how did she do it??? I read every book I could find on the subject, about 20 in all, but still did not seem to have a satisfactory answer to my question, and certainly no real way of fixing what had been done. Most of the books that seem to have been written about the psychopathic condition tend to deal more with describing the psychopath themselves, which is great, rather than figuring out what exactly has happened to the minds of the victims of these monsters.
So what were my symptoms? Initially it was hard to get a grip of even this concept. On weekends I slept til noon; on weekdays I had to force myself out of bed to go to work. I was in a state of awareness that I can only describe as being hypervigilant for other psychopaths, or the possibility of them. Basically everyone I met was a potential psychopath until proven otherwise. Paranoia was rampant. I actually feared psychopaths, as I did not understand what this one woman had done to my mental state, or even how she had done it. This left me open and vulnerable to the possibility of running into another psychopath and not knowing how to defend myself. I had no clue as to what I was defending myself against.
As time passed. I learned how to see psychopaths. It was as if a sixth sense had been awakened and I was wired to the symptoms of psychopathy. Any symptom set the alarm bells ringing in my mind. Well, all this knowledge and awareness was great, but I still could not fix the damage. Some days there would be realisations, some days were great, others not so great. Sometimes while in a crowded room I would suddenly be overcome with paranoia and have to leave. What was going on? It was as if my own awareness of myself had somehow been turned off and I did not know where the ON button was.
In the last three years I have talked to many people about psychopathy. Some found it fascinating, some were victims themselves and could recognise what I was talking about. Most did not seem to have a clue as to what I was talking about and basically thought I was nuts.
Spelling error
So — “O like Umbrella” — where does that fit in you may ask? Well, one day while at work, I was on the phone talking to an East Indian guy. He was going to buy some products from the company I work for, and we were going to be shipping what he bought to him. Well, the guy’s name was one of those ones that you can’t pronounce or spell. He proceeds to spell his name — B like Bob, A like Apple, O like Umbrella — ????????????
He continued to spell but I heard nothing because my mind was stuck on, “O like Umbrella.” What had happened?
Well, while this was happening another part of my awareness had the sudden realisation that I had just been shut down. There was no “O” in “umbrella” and because he had said something that made no sense, my mind had basically shut down. At this point there was a kind of eureka moment, as I realised that that was how psychopaths get into the minds of their victims.
Anyone who has spent any time in an intimate relationship with a psychopath knows that things get very confusing at times. What appears to happen to the victim is a kind of mental shut down that seems to happen at a subconscious level, beyond the normal conscious awareness of the victim. The victim, not realising what is happening, slowly gets lulled into an almost vegetative state where they can hardly recognise themselves. It feels like their very essence or soul has been sucked right out of them, leaving a confused, rudderless entity, almost a zombie.
So what is happening here? Did I just have the ultimate realisation about psychopath victims because I had been able to watch my own mind get shut down by a spelling mistake? The East Indian thought “umbrella” was spelt “ombrella.”
Nonsense
As the days went by, I often thought about and talked about my revelation. How relevant was it? Would it make a difference? What I began to realize was that I now knew what my psychopathic ex had done to me, SHUT ME DOWN, and also I knew how she did it.
Having a conversation with a psychopath is not like having a normal conversation, especially if you are in a relationship with them. Initially in the early days of the relationship, everything seems normal. As time goes on, however, things tend to slowly become confused. Every conversation turns into a never-ending argument that seems to go round in circles, until the victim just gives up. Nothing is resolved and the arguments become more and more frequent, and more and more confusing.
The victim tries to make sense of what is going on around them. What they don’t realise is, nothing is supposed to make sense. The psychopath is in full attack mode on the victim’s sanity. The psychopath is basically talking nonsense, but the victim is not aware that it is nonsense, or that they are under premeditated attack. As the victim’s mind tries to make sense of the babble, not realising that its not supposed to make sense, because it almost does make sense, some part of the persons thinking processes shuts down. How this really works I am not sure, but I feel as if I am getting close to the realisation of it.
Shut down mechanism
One thing about the “O like Umbrella” incident was that I now had knowledge of how the shut down process works. Now, suddenly, I knew what had been done, shut down, and how it had been done. Suddenly the fear was gone, I now knew what I was defending myself against.
Read more: Gaslighting — 5 key points you need to understand
If it doesn’t make sense it’s probably nonsense and you are probably dealing with a psychopath. Because a psychopath is so good at hiding nonsense in amongst sense, most people miss the nonsense. Being aware of this puts the power in the hands of the victim or potential victim. If the victim is aware of the nonsense, it can’t shut them down, I hope. At this point, I at least feel more relaxed than I have in a long time.
So gaslighting shuts the victim down mentally. I feel it is important to realise this, because once a victim is shut down, it will take a long time to wake them up again. I guess the revelation here is realising the relationship between gaslighting and the shut down mechanism. It’s all in the nonsense.
If one can listen to the nonsense and realise that it is indeed nonsense, then theoretically, it will not shut the victim down, hopefully. I have yet to prove this concept. I’ll need to find another psychopath to test the theory.
Learn more: Tools for navigating narcissists and other manipulative people
Lovefraud originally posted this article on Jan. 15, 2011.
(((((((((( Akita ))))))))))))
damned snow storm. You lost your footing IN A DAY of not being here!! UGH!
Okay, so get you back on track. You keep thinking, there was something you could have done or maybe if you’d not slept with him things would be okay. NOPE!!!
That’s the simple, short answer.
THANK GOD he doesn’t “want” you Akita. You’re putting him into a category as if he is CAPABLE of “wanting” anything other than FOR HIMSELF. I was just thinking about this today too and it’s actually working whenever I find myself slipping into, Well if I was more beautiful, had given what he wanted sexually BLAH BLAH BLAH………..NOPE, SWITCH WHAT HE WAS SWITCHING……
In other words: I think If I was just better in bed to IT WOULD NOT HAVE MATTERED!! I WAS GREAT IN BED!!! BUt I bet his ex wife was, the new gf, were all GREAT in bed. He doesn’t “Want” with EMOTIONS ABOUT A WOMAN THAT WAY!!!! It’s only what you can offer HIM. So if you slept wiht him again, it would be about what, Akita? LOVE? YOu’ve got to be kidding me. SWITCH HIS MOTIVES TO FIT THE RIGHT PICTURE
Everytime you say something to yourself like that, turn it AROUND if only he “wanted” me.. If only he “loved” me, if only I was “funnier…..HE DOESN”T CARE WHAT YOU ARE AT ALL!!!!! He doesn’t care WHAT anyone is. HE COULD GIVE A RATS ASS EXPOSED ON A SNOWY DECEMBER MORNING< SWEETHEART!!
This isn't about him anyway. This is about YOU and the traumas past, the abandonment, the DREAM AND FANTASY YOU HAVE OF HIM THAT ISN"T REAL
GET BACK ON YOUR HORSE AKITA! RIGHT NOW!!!
Ox, it's time for the fryin pan again, seriously here….
LL
Akita,
Also, you’ve learned another valuable lesson. No matter how hot some guy is, no matter what NEVER EVER EVER sleep with him within the first six months at least. A spath sees that as all the more reason to DISRESPECT YOU. Don’t beat yourself up about it htough, just LEARN FROM IT!
You have more work to do and fixing to do within yourself before you can fine tune your selective processes my dear!
LL
Meg He does want you ~! For SEX…and he misses having sex with you. Your a hot sexy woman. your good in bed of course he misses you..But dont think for minute you are the only one that is gettin his noogie…He doesnt want to lose you, it’s good stuff, plus he get’s to play with your brain and manipulate you and he loves that you need him so f-ing bad – oh what power he feels – oh how special and hot he must be that he has you so wrapped around his noogie….The more options he has the more power he feel’s.. He is empty in the heart so he fill’s himself up with power, you think it is passion and special..but he has another option when you wont play his game..He know’s he will LOSE you eventually cause your seeing the real him, he’s just wating on you to stop – cause he has no plans on stopping…well maybe when he pushes you over the edge and your insanity is too high a price for him to get some noogie..so he will replenish his options and leave you in a fetal position on the floor and not give a ratz ass……your not dealing with a normal person…rejection sucks but he has not rejected you yet – your trying to reject him and he is playing along,,they do this with all of their options..they will never be with just one person it is not possible for them to be anything other than what they are…
Meg,
Dances with Moon has this guy pretty much pegged. It’s about power over you. Meg, he has not discarded you, he HATES HATES HATES you. You are despised and loathed by him. He wants to hurt you so badly he can taste it. Why?
BECAUSE, your are beautiful, smart and talented. That is why. He wants to be the only one. He is overwhelmed with the desire to take you down and destroy your self esteem.
Meg, I spent 25 years with a man who felt exactly that way toward me from the very first day he walked into my office with a single red rose. He walked in with the intention of destroying me. I sensed it and was terrified, but I didn’t know why. Slowly, he eased into my life and I thought I was in love for 25 years and I thought that he loved me and we were soul-mates. It began in 1983 and lasted until 2009 and he was poisoning my food for most of that time. May of 2009, he had made the decision to kill me. I think it was planned for August, when he returned from his annual trip. He ramped up the gas lighting and I told my parents, that I was certain he was trying to take my money and house. I still thought, at this time, that it was “good loving gone bad”. I thought we had been in love and it was now lost for some unknown reason. My parents, said, “Oh, we knew that. Your dad overheard him tell someone he was only after you for your money back in 1984.”
Meg, My blood ran cold at that point. I knew then that he NEVER loved me. But Meg, I DIDN’T HAVE ANY MONEY IN 1983, WHEN WE MET. 2 months after we met, a horrible car accident in 1984 set me up with a good settlement and by February 1984, he knew that money was coming. So then what attracted him to me in December 1983? It took months of studying sociopaths to understand that it was ENVY.
Meg, I was 17 and REALLY REALLY cute. Men were always stopping by my office with flowers. (well, there was a florist around the corner) I had a killer figure and dressed to the nines.
The problem with trying to understand the sociopath’s thought process is that they don’t think like we do.
If I hate or envy someone, I would never even want to talk to them. It would never occur to me to bring them flowers and have sex with someone I loathe. But that is exactly what the sociopath does. They are completely twisted. This is where the classic serial killer sociopath’s profile actually comes in handy. We all know that the serial killers have sex with their victims. Either as a rape or in a relationship of sorts. Then they kill them. WTF? Who has sex with someone they hate? A SOCIOPATH DOES.
This is why you should fear this guy, not love him. He hates you and you don’t know what he is capable of. My exP didn’t kill me for 25 years because I kept landing large amounts of money (lots of lucky investments and settlements) and it kept him supplied for so long. I was perfect supply and an excellent “trauma bonder”. (AKA, a doormat). When I told him the jig was up, that’s when he planned to kill me. But until then he made sure that I was so miserable that I was slowly dying anyway.
Don’t go there Meg. You won’t survive.
Sky,
EXCELLENT POST!!!! You gave me something to think about too.
Turn what we would think is an intention from someone in gesture, particularly a dating relationship and TWIST IT, FLIP IT!
Great articulation!
Thanks for posting that!
LL
Sky,
I had no idea (or I missed this somewhere>) That your ex tried to kill you.
Wow. Some of the stories here are just nothing less than amazing as well as the strength of the survivors.
LL
I am having visions of vampire’s, if you make eye contact with one your doomed. When they have drained us of our spirit, they fly away and look for fresh humanity.
I just woke up from a xanax nap since I last posted many hours ago.
thank you for your posts.
What am I to do? I so appreciateyour posts and I am taking each one in– but how can I forgive myself for having sex with him? I am such an idiot–
Can you guys answer– is it worth my dying to get over this? The pain is relentless and tomorrow will be unbearable b/c it is a Friday night and I know he is in town– and not calling me anymore– though he said he would.
I wish– I wish I could say goodbye, you know? And just tell him how “gross” I feel about myself and used.
but- if he is a P– and even if he is just a player–
it is not worth it, is it?
why did I play into it?
Don’t get mad– but he was absolutely beautiful. Physically and emotionally at the beginning til he switched and closed me out.
Why did I give myself away? I CAN NEVER GET IT BACK.
I am hating myself and don’t know what to do.
I prayed on my knees tonight and asked God to forgive me and for Him to take my pain.
YOu guys– the pain is so bad– I don’t know if I can make it. I was so into him. I usually do not get like that with guys.
I just wish I knew why?
I made myself “supply” and I feel like a piece of shit.
I just took a little Ativan– b/c I feel the panic coming on again and I need to sleep.
This is the worse feeling I have ever had in my life– and I have been thru hell. Like scary, scary stuff.
I am an anorexia nervosa survivor– and was never able to get the help I needed for it b/c of money.
I’m losing weight from all of this and it scares me. No appetite. Forced down a protein smoothie tonight.
If I only had an “answer” from him.
Please do not get mad at me when I backslide in my thoughts like this.
I need you guys.
Is it possible for me to ever be okay? Honestly– if I could press a button right now and not exist– I would.
B/c I feel like I lost this most beautiful man ever!
He saw me perform piano and voice and dance– and I have so many guys that like me– including a sweet ex Redskin out here– unfortunately– he is too old for me– and I’m not attracted to him physically.
I was just another whore. Heck– being a whore would have been better cuz you are hired and it is set in stone– that there is nothing emotional.
I feel emotional and even spiritually raped. I shared with him how I did not want to be just a sex toy to him. That I’m selective. And gosh dang it– he was soo handsome that I fell for the brownie.
I hate myself.
going to reread your texts.
Is this worth dying over b/c it feels like it you guys? Does that go away? Can anyone relate?
Akita,
It’s partly chemical. You are withdrawing from oxytocin. research oxytocin and see other ways you can get it. Playing with children, and eating meals with friends both increase it. I think Chocolate helps too.
But then you need to deal with what made you so vulnerable in only 3 weeks. You have a HUGE achilles heel and you need to pinpoint it, then surgically remove it. Okay?
read, read, read about narcissism. It helps so much.
Meg…I don’t know your whole story. Sorry, I haven’t read it yet. So, maybe I won’t say the right thing.
All I know, is that after reading this last post…I felt the same exact way about my x in 2009….and about myself.
Then one day I realized that I was NOT wrong to sleep with him, even if my gut feeling was telling me that I couldn’t trust his love for me…..because, it was filling a need that I had at that time. Whether it was to feel loved as a woman, to feel wanted, ……it filled a need I had at the time.
I also realized that whenever we look for happiness OUTSIDE of ourselves, we will never be happy. When we learn that we don’t need ANYONE to be happy, then we will be happy…..and then we will attract only things into our life that are GOOD for us.
I chose to end my r/s with my xbf and I’m happier without him in my life….because I am FREE to find the right person now. And if I never do…..I am happy with ME and the people I LET into my life.
I have watched countless people fall apart over someone rejecting them and not wanting them. NOT worth it. Too much living to do…too many GOOD people out there who are capable of caring and loving you….too much FUN to have and GOOD experiences to have while we are alive and well.
I don’t think that I will ever depend on another person, house, thing to make me happy. I will never give anyone/thing that much power over me again.
Think about it. Get your “ego” (ease God out) out of the equation. Just because ONE human being on this earth doesn’t want to be in your life……does that make you worthless?