UPDATED FOR 2024. Editor’s note: The following was written by the Lovefraud reader who posts as “Quest.” He identifies what he believes is the shut down mechanism that psychopaths use on their victims.
As most of us know what its like to be a psychopath victim; I am not going to go into all the details of my relationship with a full-blown psychopathic woman that turned my life into a living hell in just 18 months. What I really want to talk about is the mental effects that this woman was able to inflict upon me without my conscious realisation; gaslighting it’s called.
Just so there is a little background, I am a 55-year-old male and split from my ex psychopath female mate three years ago. We were in a relationship for 18 months. At the time we split up, I knew the relationship was beyond repair, but had very little understanding of what had really happened to make the relationship such a disaster.
Two weeks before I left, I had been on the Internet researching mental disorders and had by chance run into the classification “psychopath.” At the time my real knowledge of the intimate details of the psychopathic condition were pretty limited. Anyway I Googled psychopath and found Lovefraud.com, and as they say, the rest is history.
What had she done?
Two weeks after leaving I realised that I was now damaged goods. Many times I found myself asking myself, what had this woman done to me and how did she do it??? I read every book I could find on the subject, about 20 in all, but still did not seem to have a satisfactory answer to my question, and certainly no real way of fixing what had been done. Most of the books that seem to have been written about the psychopathic condition tend to deal more with describing the psychopath themselves, which is great, rather than figuring out what exactly has happened to the minds of the victims of these monsters.
So what were my symptoms? Initially it was hard to get a grip of even this concept. On weekends I slept til noon; on weekdays I had to force myself out of bed to go to work. I was in a state of awareness that I can only describe as being hypervigilant for other psychopaths, or the possibility of them. Basically everyone I met was a potential psychopath until proven otherwise. Paranoia was rampant. I actually feared psychopaths, as I did not understand what this one woman had done to my mental state, or even how she had done it. This left me open and vulnerable to the possibility of running into another psychopath and not knowing how to defend myself. I had no clue as to what I was defending myself against.
As time passed. I learned how to see psychopaths. It was as if a sixth sense had been awakened and I was wired to the symptoms of psychopathy. Any symptom set the alarm bells ringing in my mind. Well, all this knowledge and awareness was great, but I still could not fix the damage. Some days there would be realisations, some days were great, others not so great. Sometimes while in a crowded room I would suddenly be overcome with paranoia and have to leave. What was going on? It was as if my own awareness of myself had somehow been turned off and I did not know where the ON button was.
In the last three years I have talked to many people about psychopathy. Some found it fascinating, some were victims themselves and could recognise what I was talking about. Most did not seem to have a clue as to what I was talking about and basically thought I was nuts.
Spelling error
So — “O like Umbrella” — where does that fit in you may ask? Well, one day while at work, I was on the phone talking to an East Indian guy. He was going to buy some products from the company I work for, and we were going to be shipping what he bought to him. Well, the guy’s name was one of those ones that you can’t pronounce or spell. He proceeds to spell his name — B like Bob, A like Apple, O like Umbrella — ????????????
He continued to spell but I heard nothing because my mind was stuck on, “O like Umbrella.” What had happened?
Well, while this was happening another part of my awareness had the sudden realisation that I had just been shut down. There was no “O” in “umbrella” and because he had said something that made no sense, my mind had basically shut down. At this point there was a kind of eureka moment, as I realised that that was how psychopaths get into the minds of their victims.
Anyone who has spent any time in an intimate relationship with a psychopath knows that things get very confusing at times. What appears to happen to the victim is a kind of mental shut down that seems to happen at a subconscious level, beyond the normal conscious awareness of the victim. The victim, not realising what is happening, slowly gets lulled into an almost vegetative state where they can hardly recognise themselves. It feels like their very essence or soul has been sucked right out of them, leaving a confused, rudderless entity, almost a zombie.
So what is happening here? Did I just have the ultimate realisation about psychopath victims because I had been able to watch my own mind get shut down by a spelling mistake? The East Indian thought “umbrella” was spelt “ombrella.”
Nonsense
As the days went by, I often thought about and talked about my revelation. How relevant was it? Would it make a difference? What I began to realize was that I now knew what my psychopathic ex had done to me, SHUT ME DOWN, and also I knew how she did it.
Having a conversation with a psychopath is not like having a normal conversation, especially if you are in a relationship with them. Initially in the early days of the relationship, everything seems normal. As time goes on, however, things tend to slowly become confused. Every conversation turns into a never-ending argument that seems to go round in circles, until the victim just gives up. Nothing is resolved and the arguments become more and more frequent, and more and more confusing.
The victim tries to make sense of what is going on around them. What they don’t realise is, nothing is supposed to make sense. The psychopath is in full attack mode on the victim’s sanity. The psychopath is basically talking nonsense, but the victim is not aware that it is nonsense, or that they are under premeditated attack. As the victim’s mind tries to make sense of the babble, not realising that its not supposed to make sense, because it almost does make sense, some part of the persons thinking processes shuts down. How this really works I am not sure, but I feel as if I am getting close to the realisation of it.
Shut down mechanism
One thing about the “O like Umbrella” incident was that I now had knowledge of how the shut down process works. Now, suddenly, I knew what had been done, shut down, and how it had been done. Suddenly the fear was gone, I now knew what I was defending myself against.
Read more: Gaslighting — 5 key points you need to understand
If it doesn’t make sense it’s probably nonsense and you are probably dealing with a psychopath. Because a psychopath is so good at hiding nonsense in amongst sense, most people miss the nonsense. Being aware of this puts the power in the hands of the victim or potential victim. If the victim is aware of the nonsense, it can’t shut them down, I hope. At this point, I at least feel more relaxed than I have in a long time.
So gaslighting shuts the victim down mentally. I feel it is important to realise this, because once a victim is shut down, it will take a long time to wake them up again. I guess the revelation here is realising the relationship between gaslighting and the shut down mechanism. It’s all in the nonsense.
If one can listen to the nonsense and realise that it is indeed nonsense, then theoretically, it will not shut the victim down, hopefully. I have yet to prove this concept. I’ll need to find another psychopath to test the theory.
Learn more: Tools for navigating narcissists and other manipulative people
Lovefraud originally posted this article on Jan. 15, 2011.
LL – I think the hardest thing is the shame and the humiliation of being conned. At one month nc I was where you are now, ask Oxy she knows, she was where you are now also. I am trying to help you see where you can be 3 years from now, one year from now. I probably shouldnt even be on LF anymore as I have said before I dont relate as I used to. I can see where I have become jaded and frustrated with the new peeps here. I so much want them to not give the Xpos so much of their energy. I see it from my perspective, not fair for me to assume you would understand. And for those who have children with one of these pos, it’s a whole new ball game and I dont even know the rules..I just want you to get better but do it in your own time ….
DM
I “intellectually” understand where you are. It WOULD take a great deal of patience to deal with the “newbies” as it were………
I’m exhausted from the anger today. Maybe that’s a good thing, so now the perspective is just one of feeling hopelessness and sadness……..
It’s hard to just set your feet upon the road to recovery and be in this place.
I can see both sides of the aisle. I think it’s a brave soul who can be here for a long time and put up with newbie bullshit, but we are reeling, and I think you know this.
I don’t believe it will go on forever, but it will just for now, in whatever form that is. I know those that are ahead in the healing process mean well, but for a newbie, in giving this some thought, it can seem insensitive. I’m not suggesting that it IS that way, but for me, sometimes it feels that way. If I was out three years from my experience like you are now, Or Questy or years like Oxy, or anyone else here who is not just catapulted into the reeling phase of all of this, I would probably want to wring my own neck too.
BUt that’s not what we need. It’s not what I need. I have to learn to be okay with where I’m at right now. It doesn’t help when others tell me that I need to do this or that to be healthy. Then I feel more discouraged because my process, I feel is not being honored, even by well meaning others who have been there done that.
If anything, this is teaching me something. I don’t know if you know Petite’s story here or have been following it, but there was a point I reached in frustration that I felt I was wanting to fix her. Well, I couldn’t do that and just shared my experiences of involvement and had to let it go. BUT, even with that, I never let her feel that somehow she was inadequate or not doing it fast enough because it wasn’t done AS FAST AS I WANTED HER TO DO IT!. My therapist told me it takes an abused woman, on average SEVEN attempts to leave her abuser, then after that all of the healing involved.
That can span over several years sometimes. I understand why others would want to desert you and peg you as “toxic”. What else are they going to do when they’ve reached a level of healing that you have not? But what I can tell you, what I”m learning is that I don’t want to be that way in the future. I was just thinking about this too……..God PLEASE KEEP ME HUMBLED IN REMEMBERING MY EXPERIENCES SO I CAN HELP OTHERS WITH THEIRS. That would be the ultimate gift.
DM, you have no idea what just ONE sentence you say can have such a profound effect, positive or negative on another’s healing.
For me, you’ve been very positive. I see your frustration with me. I accept it for what it is and I’m more honored that you shared that with me.
I’m glad I don’t have children with exPOS, but I have six with exP.
No fun and it is a different ballgame. I got lucky there too, because he wanted nothign to do with them, but it doesn’t mean they haven’t suffered damage, but I DO feel quite sorry for exPOS children and ex wife, because he managed to hold onto half of it, with room for more drama and destruction.
Just remember, as frustrated as you sometimes feel and get, if you can find a way to temper it wisely, you don’t know whose life you might change for the better.
LL
thank you everyone for being there.
I had to take a percoset today for pain from passing stone yesterday– so I am tired and cranky.
Oxy– I wish you werre hugging me and giving me tea too.
LL–
have you tried taking a real Tae Bo class? I took one from Billy Blanks himself and then an asst of his for months and it was unreal? Anxiety? What anxiety after Tae -Bo– you have no energy and it is so fun.
Wish we could go together. DVD’s are not the same. You need that collective energy and talent of a true instructor.
I am thinking of you. You have every right to be so pissed.
One Step– yes on the counselor. She is great– I sure wish she took insurance thought.
LL– 5’1″— Can I go step on him like a little bug.
Just from the love you have given ME here– I can tell you that you are not damaged goods or worthless. I am thinking of you.
LL – i wanted a safe place to be – away from people, away by myself to sit in stunned silence. i wanted enough food and money to pay my rent and light bill. i wanted my friends to help. i didn’t get any of these things.
i went on welfare, i ate shit food from the foodbank, i went to the salvation army for help with my rent so that i didn’t get pitched out of my shit apt., i lost my friends.
i was scared beyond belief because i couldn’t talk properly anymore – still can’t, BUT it IS getting better. I am still scared. I fucked up lots and was too ashamed to be upfront about it.
thing is, I AM getting better.
just to let you know, i am not in the least frustrated with you.
((((you took a stand for yourself today – that’s always positive. )))))
LL How is your weiner dog doing? I have 3 and I know about paying vet bills when the money is just not their…but I would sell my left kidney to keep my weiner alive….
The first month, I was concentrating on just getting out of bed.
I think I lived on Ativan for months.
I feel shell shocked half the time,
like… no thoughts in my head.
I’m smoking and eating chocolate as I write this. :/
no, no, no shabby! eat chocolate FIRST, THEN smoke! 😉
pass the chocolate and ash tray shabby…yes I forget, i am glad LL put me in my spot….yes was in bed for months with blanket over my head listening to whitney houston sing ‘why does it hurt so bad?’
I think it took me 2 and 1/2 years to get back anything close to who I was.
I lost 2o pounds – my family almost had me comitted – i was crazy no doubt about it…..yuck dont want to go their ever again..I will stop passin out the easy button – aint no such critter.
Dearest LL,
There are times when I so wish I could jump through this screen. This site is wonderful and at the same time it is limiting.
I wish I had known about LoveFraud when I was going through my nightmare in my marriage. One thing I don’t think I made clear to you was my timeline. I didn’t tell you b/c I didn’t want to make anyone feel hopeless, that recovery takes forever. We are all individuals and healing takes as long as it needs to. But for me, it has taken far longer than it should have b/c I did not have this site, or any support except for sporadic counselling (which helped me to leave an abuser but never addressed his spath behavior and what it did to my psyche.) I was isolated and alone and my husabnd made sure people hated me. Mean stuff happened my whole marriage but it took me two years after his mask completely came off before I left him, took ANOTHER THREE years before I wanted to socialize with anyone in any capacity, took FOUR years before I was able to work. If not for savings, I would have been homeless and in my mental state, I would have still felt better off homeless than with him.
Please don’t feel pressured b/c of anything written on this site. Women want to fix things, that’s the way God made us. We want so much for you and of course right away, and when someone hurts, well I know I wish I could jump through this screen and save the day. God Knows what that would look like, but wanting to make everything better is the consequence of my empathetic desire.
Just know this… as flustrated or as angry as you feel, you are progressing. I know it b/c I’ve been there. (I confess I have one wish, that you stop beating yourself up. You’ve had more than enough abuse from jerks, please don’t join them in your abuse.)
Save your posts. I promise in a year you will see that you did magnificently. (remember we have a date for New Years, just to reminince on the difference a year makes.) Most of all, you will see that not only are you NOT alone, but you were understood with compassion and care.
Bestest hugs,
KatyDid
ps I remember thinking I was “damaged goods”, worth less than nothing. I came to realize I was “wounded goods”, and that I could do something about.
Hi Dances w/Moon (Since you’re “Dances”, are your babies like Moondoggie?)
My man was Elvis. (This time you gave me a mountain… aaa mountain that I can never climb… – worse I can’t sing a not in tune but I sang at the TOP of my lungs over and over. Surprised my neighbors didn’t have me arrested!) And I found your twenty pounds and doubled them…