UPDATED FOR 2024. Editor’s note: The following was written by the Lovefraud reader who posts as “Quest.” He identifies what he believes is the shut down mechanism that psychopaths use on their victims.
As most of us know what its like to be a psychopath victim; I am not going to go into all the details of my relationship with a full-blown psychopathic woman that turned my life into a living hell in just 18 months. What I really want to talk about is the mental effects that this woman was able to inflict upon me without my conscious realisation; gaslighting it’s called.
Just so there is a little background, I am a 55-year-old male and split from my ex psychopath female mate three years ago. We were in a relationship for 18 months. At the time we split up, I knew the relationship was beyond repair, but had very little understanding of what had really happened to make the relationship such a disaster.
Two weeks before I left, I had been on the Internet researching mental disorders and had by chance run into the classification “psychopath.” At the time my real knowledge of the intimate details of the psychopathic condition were pretty limited. Anyway I Googled psychopath and found Lovefraud.com, and as they say, the rest is history.
What had she done?
Two weeks after leaving I realised that I was now damaged goods. Many times I found myself asking myself, what had this woman done to me and how did she do it??? I read every book I could find on the subject, about 20 in all, but still did not seem to have a satisfactory answer to my question, and certainly no real way of fixing what had been done. Most of the books that seem to have been written about the psychopathic condition tend to deal more with describing the psychopath themselves, which is great, rather than figuring out what exactly has happened to the minds of the victims of these monsters.
So what were my symptoms? Initially it was hard to get a grip of even this concept. On weekends I slept til noon; on weekdays I had to force myself out of bed to go to work. I was in a state of awareness that I can only describe as being hypervigilant for other psychopaths, or the possibility of them. Basically everyone I met was a potential psychopath until proven otherwise. Paranoia was rampant. I actually feared psychopaths, as I did not understand what this one woman had done to my mental state, or even how she had done it. This left me open and vulnerable to the possibility of running into another psychopath and not knowing how to defend myself. I had no clue as to what I was defending myself against.
As time passed. I learned how to see psychopaths. It was as if a sixth sense had been awakened and I was wired to the symptoms of psychopathy. Any symptom set the alarm bells ringing in my mind. Well, all this knowledge and awareness was great, but I still could not fix the damage. Some days there would be realisations, some days were great, others not so great. Sometimes while in a crowded room I would suddenly be overcome with paranoia and have to leave. What was going on? It was as if my own awareness of myself had somehow been turned off and I did not know where the ON button was.
In the last three years I have talked to many people about psychopathy. Some found it fascinating, some were victims themselves and could recognise what I was talking about. Most did not seem to have a clue as to what I was talking about and basically thought I was nuts.
Spelling error
So — “O like Umbrella” — where does that fit in you may ask? Well, one day while at work, I was on the phone talking to an East Indian guy. He was going to buy some products from the company I work for, and we were going to be shipping what he bought to him. Well, the guy’s name was one of those ones that you can’t pronounce or spell. He proceeds to spell his name — B like Bob, A like Apple, O like Umbrella — ????????????
He continued to spell but I heard nothing because my mind was stuck on, “O like Umbrella.” What had happened?
Well, while this was happening another part of my awareness had the sudden realisation that I had just been shut down. There was no “O” in “umbrella” and because he had said something that made no sense, my mind had basically shut down. At this point there was a kind of eureka moment, as I realised that that was how psychopaths get into the minds of their victims.
Anyone who has spent any time in an intimate relationship with a psychopath knows that things get very confusing at times. What appears to happen to the victim is a kind of mental shut down that seems to happen at a subconscious level, beyond the normal conscious awareness of the victim. The victim, not realising what is happening, slowly gets lulled into an almost vegetative state where they can hardly recognise themselves. It feels like their very essence or soul has been sucked right out of them, leaving a confused, rudderless entity, almost a zombie.
So what is happening here? Did I just have the ultimate realisation about psychopath victims because I had been able to watch my own mind get shut down by a spelling mistake? The East Indian thought “umbrella” was spelt “ombrella.”
Nonsense
As the days went by, I often thought about and talked about my revelation. How relevant was it? Would it make a difference? What I began to realize was that I now knew what my psychopathic ex had done to me, SHUT ME DOWN, and also I knew how she did it.
Having a conversation with a psychopath is not like having a normal conversation, especially if you are in a relationship with them. Initially in the early days of the relationship, everything seems normal. As time goes on, however, things tend to slowly become confused. Every conversation turns into a never-ending argument that seems to go round in circles, until the victim just gives up. Nothing is resolved and the arguments become more and more frequent, and more and more confusing.
The victim tries to make sense of what is going on around them. What they don’t realise is, nothing is supposed to make sense. The psychopath is in full attack mode on the victim’s sanity. The psychopath is basically talking nonsense, but the victim is not aware that it is nonsense, or that they are under premeditated attack. As the victim’s mind tries to make sense of the babble, not realising that its not supposed to make sense, because it almost does make sense, some part of the persons thinking processes shuts down. How this really works I am not sure, but I feel as if I am getting close to the realisation of it.
Shut down mechanism
One thing about the “O like Umbrella” incident was that I now had knowledge of how the shut down process works. Now, suddenly, I knew what had been done, shut down, and how it had been done. Suddenly the fear was gone, I now knew what I was defending myself against.
Read more: Gaslighting — 5 key points you need to understand
If it doesn’t make sense it’s probably nonsense and you are probably dealing with a psychopath. Because a psychopath is so good at hiding nonsense in amongst sense, most people miss the nonsense. Being aware of this puts the power in the hands of the victim or potential victim. If the victim is aware of the nonsense, it can’t shut them down, I hope. At this point, I at least feel more relaxed than I have in a long time.
So gaslighting shuts the victim down mentally. I feel it is important to realise this, because once a victim is shut down, it will take a long time to wake them up again. I guess the revelation here is realising the relationship between gaslighting and the shut down mechanism. It’s all in the nonsense.
If one can listen to the nonsense and realise that it is indeed nonsense, then theoretically, it will not shut the victim down, hopefully. I have yet to prove this concept. I’ll need to find another psychopath to test the theory.
Learn more: Tools for navigating narcissists and other manipulative people
Lovefraud originally posted this article on Jan. 15, 2011.
Meg LMAO considering my romance record with being a gay man maybe I should consider becoming a lesbian…
KatyDid I am giving you a BIG HUG..bless your heart..I just dont know what to say…i think it is better not to own anything these days….
Hi Quest,
I read your article with much interest and I had posted this on another thread – Lack of remorse —
however, it fits this title.
this is what I felt
the way they rationalise their odd behaviours and brainwash us to believe that their reasoning makes sense, makes you sometimes think ”“ could it be that what he did was OK, maybe I did not undertand it well, maybe his reasoning of it could make sense in which case I should not make a big deal and over-react for not getting adequate answers and his telling me to put things in a box to process them later etc etc.
in short, sometimes like many posters here may have also felt, I wonder ”“ could there some sense in what he said ”“ and in the end I may just land up making sense of the non-sense, knowing that it is nonsense, however the making sense of it ”“ numbs me from the hurt he caused me and I can go ahead with the rosy times with him.
maybe I am going in and out of the phases of mental shut down, though I am going to be strong and not backslide.
tell me if this makes any sense to you.
petite
akita – i think it is something people can ‘consider’. but it ain’t going to save you heartache – au contraire, there will be more, becuase everyone and their dog will have an opinion about your right to love, your right to show affection, raise kids, get married, live together, draw breath.
if you hold you partner’s hand, you can get anyone of these responses, but a simple display of affection will never be treated ‘normally’:
stared at (at least, but still horribly intrusive for something you can do anytime you like with a man)
sworn at
hit
swarmed
spit on
called any number of homophobic epitaphs
have people cover their kid’s eyes or move them out of sight
and this ‘heartache’ doesn’t even take into the account that you will be trying to have a relationship with another person who has had to bear up under all this shit too – this stuff scars people.
nope, ‘lesbian’ is not a good career choice.
(((((((((((((((((( Akita ))))))))))))))))))))))))))
I’ve been thinking of you off and on throughout the day….
You love, sing and play music.
This link is for you. Listen to the words.
I hope it brings you faith and hope, play it loud, learn the lyrics and……..just believe 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1JBSQMkQEo
Love you….
LL
Akita-I have some wonderful friends who are lesbians but I will tell you that I tried that once because I was sick of being treated badly by men. The whole thing was May-October. She was a total narcissist and extremely emotionally unavailable. She had been in deep therapy for years and wouldn’t tell me why. All she did was fuck with my head nonstop. I’m sorry, but if you can’t tell me why you need so much intensive therapy, and you behave the way you do, PLEASE-do not expect me to have sex with you. She would say things to be to make me think that she was messing around with other people and then get mad if I pressed the issue. She was seriously messed up. Broke up with me in the middle of August, then changed her mind and used my emotional state over hurricane Katrina to get back in and by September I was seeing her again. Mid October, the crazy behavior again and she broke up with me again and I was relieved. She did try to contact me on and off for a year after that and even as late as Mardi Gras 2007. She called me from STL talking about wishing she could be with me and remember all the good times we had. Are you kidding me? It was the most schizophrenic relationship and I felt like I was completely crazy by the end of it.
My last spath who was the love of my life who brought me here, was my first relationship after her. I was actually in love with the person he pretended to be. I now know that I have invisible writing on my forehead that I can’t see but it is only seen by spaths and narcs and it says “welcome”. I have finally decided by what happened to me and talking to all the others on here that I am NOT having sex with anyone again until I am married. My N mother is finally getting her way. It was too much for me to deal with that I gave it up to him and he was dishonest and cheated. I did things with him that I had never done with anyone else and it was serious for me and it hurt really bad-cut me deep. No one deserves those things from me unless he’s marrying me.
Katy-I also wish I could jump through the screen and hug you as well as LL, cuz what happened to you is breaking my heart. There has to be some way you can get tested.
I know that my life feels so much more sane and calm when I am single-since I am the spath magnet. I have a good friend who is a strong mentor and she’s 10 years older than me and she told me the same thing. She picked horrid guys so she remained single for years and she is content with her life and is so successful in the field I’m trying to get into.
oh one step, you have a way with reality..sometimes I envy the spaths who have no heart, no place deep in their souls, just living in the moment ..
HI LL,
you are up and still pouring advice for all of us here.
do let me know what you think about the making sense of nonsense bit of my post to Quest.
hugs to you and Katy.
petite
hi petite , not sure I am getting your point here but will give my opinion anyway . I think that what you have to consider is what are his motives . A psychopaths only motives as far as I can figure is to get a victim and make them an emotional prisoner so that they will not leave . THe only other purpose would be the total destruction of what is human in that person and if that fails perhaps murder . Keep in mind that very few psychopaths actually kill their victims .
I have read your post 5 times and I suspect that what is happening is that you are almost trying to justify his actions or at least make excuses for those actions . At this point of his game this would be a very dangerous thing for you to do . You have to realise that anything he says that is confusing at this time , is confusing because he wishes it to be so . His ultimate goal is that you cannot make sense of anything , at which time you will be shut down . You will not make sense of the nonsense because that is what it is , nonsense . If you want to make any sense whatever of what is going on you will have to go outside your normal way of thinking about humans and human relationships . If you are expecting a loving relationship from this person you had better forget it and fast . One of the tactics of a psychopath is draw the victim in with seduction then push them away with contempt , then draw them in again . They will continue this cycle of love followed by abuse , followed by love , folllowed by more abuse . The love part will become less often and the abuse will eventually become the main event . Of course the whole thing is just a game to break you down . When they have total control over your emotions you might as well say you are shut down . It basically feels like an emotional rollercoaster ride and you will not understand who is in control . Of course it is the psychopath who is in control . I guess at this point I would warn you that you are playing with fire , so be careful . If you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen and don’t look back
petite, just my 2 cents here… but… you will never
make sense of the nonsense, if you ever did, you would
be lying to yourself, then you would be even more miserable
because you would be living a lie of your own making,
I used to turn myself into a pretzel
to keep the relationshit going!! I knew there was something wrong
but i didn’t want to face it.
I didn’t have any boundaries and accepted men who’s morals
I did not agree with. They never changed.
It was me that had to change… and it wasn’t easy!!!
The things he said to you:
“put it in a box and process it later”
“I’m not the rescuing type”
“You don’t understand because of cultural differences”…
all these things were said to make you feel like
there is something wrong with YOU,
takes the FOCUS OFF him.
You are mourning the loss of your “fantasy”,
we’ve all done this. Its tough, painful. I think you should
be very proud of yourself for taking care of YOU!!!
Petite,
I’m on the west coast, so it’s not “late” from my perspective at least not TOO late, although it might be from someone else.
I had the most amazing enlightening night during a family meeting with my children tonight. What I see/saw blew me away.
Petitie, what this really comes down to is YOU…..I understand your pain, I’m right there too……….but there is a transition happening in my life now, a shift…………even just a month out now………
I’m not so sure this site is healthy for me right now. I think blogging about feelings and having a place to write out your feelings is really good……..it’s kinda like journaling with feedback….
I think I might need to get out of here for awhile. There are some things I’m seeing that are very triggering here that I don’t know I can handle right now. I think even just sticking to my therapist and my meds and my immediate family may be best.
I agree with a lot of what is said here, but I also vehemently disagree with other things that are said. Those things appear to be set in stone without the ability for a difference of opinion. After much thought, I think this is just me. SomethingI need to work through.
I need to give this some very serious thought and consideration….
Having said that, I can’t say whether or not I’ll be coming back for awhile, but I DO want you to know………how proud I am of you. YOu did good, Chica. And seriously, petite, if you could face this asshole for two weeks and hold your ground, you’ve got it made. I realize it’s painful. I realize ithurts. I realize you will have to go through a lot of grieving and pain…but I hope you can turn that around when you’re done obsessing on him, and make it all about you, what you can do better next time…that you can see a spath from miles away and choose the great guy and/or friend.
You can do it. I know you need to shuffle through the obsession, through the pain, but I know you can do it 🙂
You can do this petite. I believe in you. I just wish and/or hope you find that belief withing yourself.
I”m so proud of you for what you’ve accomplished 🙂
Keep on truckin chica. You can do this. You have to walk through the pain and you’re so bright, I just know you’ll figure out what created your attrraction to him in the first place.
Hang in there Petite, and even if I don’t see you for awhile, know that you are in my thoughts and prayers.
LL