UPDATED FOR 2024. Editor’s note: The following was written by the Lovefraud reader who posts as “Quest.” He identifies what he believes is the shut down mechanism that psychopaths use on their victims.
As most of us know what its like to be a psychopath victim; I am not going to go into all the details of my relationship with a full-blown psychopathic woman that turned my life into a living hell in just 18 months. What I really want to talk about is the mental effects that this woman was able to inflict upon me without my conscious realisation; gaslighting it’s called.
Just so there is a little background, I am a 55-year-old male and split from my ex psychopath female mate three years ago. We were in a relationship for 18 months. At the time we split up, I knew the relationship was beyond repair, but had very little understanding of what had really happened to make the relationship such a disaster.
Two weeks before I left, I had been on the Internet researching mental disorders and had by chance run into the classification “psychopath.” At the time my real knowledge of the intimate details of the psychopathic condition were pretty limited. Anyway I Googled psychopath and found Lovefraud.com, and as they say, the rest is history.
What had she done?
Two weeks after leaving I realised that I was now damaged goods. Many times I found myself asking myself, what had this woman done to me and how did she do it??? I read every book I could find on the subject, about 20 in all, but still did not seem to have a satisfactory answer to my question, and certainly no real way of fixing what had been done. Most of the books that seem to have been written about the psychopathic condition tend to deal more with describing the psychopath themselves, which is great, rather than figuring out what exactly has happened to the minds of the victims of these monsters.
So what were my symptoms? Initially it was hard to get a grip of even this concept. On weekends I slept til noon; on weekdays I had to force myself out of bed to go to work. I was in a state of awareness that I can only describe as being hypervigilant for other psychopaths, or the possibility of them. Basically everyone I met was a potential psychopath until proven otherwise. Paranoia was rampant. I actually feared psychopaths, as I did not understand what this one woman had done to my mental state, or even how she had done it. This left me open and vulnerable to the possibility of running into another psychopath and not knowing how to defend myself. I had no clue as to what I was defending myself against.
As time passed. I learned how to see psychopaths. It was as if a sixth sense had been awakened and I was wired to the symptoms of psychopathy. Any symptom set the alarm bells ringing in my mind. Well, all this knowledge and awareness was great, but I still could not fix the damage. Some days there would be realisations, some days were great, others not so great. Sometimes while in a crowded room I would suddenly be overcome with paranoia and have to leave. What was going on? It was as if my own awareness of myself had somehow been turned off and I did not know where the ON button was.
In the last three years I have talked to many people about psychopathy. Some found it fascinating, some were victims themselves and could recognise what I was talking about. Most did not seem to have a clue as to what I was talking about and basically thought I was nuts.
Spelling error
So — “O like Umbrella” — where does that fit in you may ask? Well, one day while at work, I was on the phone talking to an East Indian guy. He was going to buy some products from the company I work for, and we were going to be shipping what he bought to him. Well, the guy’s name was one of those ones that you can’t pronounce or spell. He proceeds to spell his name — B like Bob, A like Apple, O like Umbrella — ????????????
He continued to spell but I heard nothing because my mind was stuck on, “O like Umbrella.” What had happened?
Well, while this was happening another part of my awareness had the sudden realisation that I had just been shut down. There was no “O” in “umbrella” and because he had said something that made no sense, my mind had basically shut down. At this point there was a kind of eureka moment, as I realised that that was how psychopaths get into the minds of their victims.
Anyone who has spent any time in an intimate relationship with a psychopath knows that things get very confusing at times. What appears to happen to the victim is a kind of mental shut down that seems to happen at a subconscious level, beyond the normal conscious awareness of the victim. The victim, not realising what is happening, slowly gets lulled into an almost vegetative state where they can hardly recognise themselves. It feels like their very essence or soul has been sucked right out of them, leaving a confused, rudderless entity, almost a zombie.
So what is happening here? Did I just have the ultimate realisation about psychopath victims because I had been able to watch my own mind get shut down by a spelling mistake? The East Indian thought “umbrella” was spelt “ombrella.”
Nonsense
As the days went by, I often thought about and talked about my revelation. How relevant was it? Would it make a difference? What I began to realize was that I now knew what my psychopathic ex had done to me, SHUT ME DOWN, and also I knew how she did it.
Having a conversation with a psychopath is not like having a normal conversation, especially if you are in a relationship with them. Initially in the early days of the relationship, everything seems normal. As time goes on, however, things tend to slowly become confused. Every conversation turns into a never-ending argument that seems to go round in circles, until the victim just gives up. Nothing is resolved and the arguments become more and more frequent, and more and more confusing.
The victim tries to make sense of what is going on around them. What they don’t realise is, nothing is supposed to make sense. The psychopath is in full attack mode on the victim’s sanity. The psychopath is basically talking nonsense, but the victim is not aware that it is nonsense, or that they are under premeditated attack. As the victim’s mind tries to make sense of the babble, not realising that its not supposed to make sense, because it almost does make sense, some part of the persons thinking processes shuts down. How this really works I am not sure, but I feel as if I am getting close to the realisation of it.
Shut down mechanism
One thing about the “O like Umbrella” incident was that I now had knowledge of how the shut down process works. Now, suddenly, I knew what had been done, shut down, and how it had been done. Suddenly the fear was gone, I now knew what I was defending myself against.
Read more: Gaslighting — 5 key points you need to understand
If it doesn’t make sense it’s probably nonsense and you are probably dealing with a psychopath. Because a psychopath is so good at hiding nonsense in amongst sense, most people miss the nonsense. Being aware of this puts the power in the hands of the victim or potential victim. If the victim is aware of the nonsense, it can’t shut them down, I hope. At this point, I at least feel more relaxed than I have in a long time.
So gaslighting shuts the victim down mentally. I feel it is important to realise this, because once a victim is shut down, it will take a long time to wake them up again. I guess the revelation here is realising the relationship between gaslighting and the shut down mechanism. It’s all in the nonsense.
If one can listen to the nonsense and realise that it is indeed nonsense, then theoretically, it will not shut the victim down, hopefully. I have yet to prove this concept. I’ll need to find another psychopath to test the theory.
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Lovefraud originally posted this article on Jan. 15, 2011.
Yes, well explained. And since my ex spath walked out the door two years ago, I haven’t lost my keys once. Had this realization a short while ago, and pushed it to the side. The thought that he could have been hiding my keys simply for the chance to chuckle and call me “stupid” was too creepy to entertain. And if he was, how “small”, but oh so effective, and calculated. And this is the hard part – recognizing when it is a calcuated attempt to scramble your brain and stun/paralyze you so they can move in for the kill.
Yes, D’Moon sweet man,
Too true and straight out of spath 101, they come back to offer you more of them, but if you don’t “play”, they don’t care, they don’t MISS us at all b/c as spaths, people are interchangeable. We are a “fix” for their ego, wanting to feed off our souls, but another soul satisfies them just the same.
When they come back, it’s not to repair with remorse, it’s to get an easy fix, a quickie boost to their ego, a reminder that even as bad as they were to us and we cry about it, if we let them in then they think, “i am So wanted, just as I am…”. But do not fool ourselves, even their knocking at our door is part of the discard, just as you say.
Katy
LOL….a “quickie” fix, boy isn’t THAT the truth. I think mine is trying to line me up at back burner.
Can you say HELL NO, I WON”T GO?
He may or may not attempt to taunt me again, but I DO know, that no matter how “tempted” I might be to go back, I won’t. I know the truth, so I can’t. It doesn’t mean I don’t struggle with it the REST of the time lol! BUT, I have visualized him trying to make contact. I just couldn’t do it again………..
Shit. Sure wish I could keep that in mind when I have days like this…..
Thank GOD for therapy tomorrow **sigh**
LL
LL,
ohhh, yes my husband tried to lure me back, but just to be a back burner (he likes to keep several backburners). Can you imagine cheating on your girlfriend with your WIFE??!! MFn. A.
I wish I could say that was b/c he didn’t know me well enough, but truth is, he didn’t care to KNOW about me, my feelings, my ambitions, my morals/character… any conversation about such personal attributes was a ruse and he forgot it as quickly as he pretended to listen. Not saying he didn’t remember the words, to use on me at will as a weapon, but to look at me as existing as a human being just didn’t happen. REMEMBER! Always for spaths, we are sources, not people or relationships.
Kay–
two of your posts ago– wow–
I am going to copy and paste it into my email and read it– remember it.
“When they come back, it’s not to repair with remorse, it’s to get an easy fix, a quickie boost to their ego, a reminder that even as bad as they were to us and we cry about it, if we let them in then they think, “i am So wanted, just as I am—. But do not fool ourselves, even their knocking at our door is part of the discard, just as you say.
Oh my gosh–
“their knocking at our door is part of the discard.”
amazing.
I am not bilpolar– but in dealing with the aftermath of even just dating one of these guys-
I feel bipolar. The ups and downs. At night– esp– I get very sad and lonely and just want to die.
I know that sounds horrible, but it is how I feel. 🙁
In thinking about Valentine’s Day coming up– oh– the low that I hit. Despair.
Like I said– I wish I had never met this person– b/c now I know how “wonderful” being with someone can feel and I am like a cocaine addict who is now off cocaine. It is just awful. He seemed so real. I just can’t tell you how real he seemed. It makes me sick with myself. What an idiot I am– then again– who takes you for their fams’ on xmas just to get laid– and he didn’t that night by the way. Who takes you to the ER for four hours– holding your hand and making you laugh– b/c you are in so much pain?
I am soooooo darned sad. It is truly unreal.
lesson learned says:
Quest: We know there is a threat but are not really sure of what it is”
EXACTLY!! HOwever, I’m responding as if the threat IS STILL THERE.
LL
Lesson learned . That is the nature of fear . Its only there because you haven’t quite realised the shut down mechanism , I think . You fear the shut down only because you don’t quite understand it . Everything about psychopaths is a little bit unbelievable . Thats why it is so hard for normal people to get their heads around the whole concept . The threat that you percieve is the threat of it happening again whether it be by him or another psychopath
Questy,
Perhaps. HOwever, I could discuss this with you at length, to which I wish too, having battled with skype for the last hour.
I have it set up now and working.
Please try again.
LL
Ox,
This is a time I wish I had your email address to talk to you about this personally, but I don’t and I find myself in an emotional crisis…more drama……..
I know you’ll get this.
I had something happen to me this afternoon to which I’m so confused and pissed at myself, I want to throw things right now.
I know you’ll get this because you’re a nurse.
I’m not afraid of death or of emergency situations that require critical thinking……..
Just to set that straight right now.
Anyway, this afternoon, my soon to be ex next door neighbor (was moving the rest of his stuff out today), and his sister was there to help. NO biggies, right?>
WRONG…………..
He passed out, ox. His sister came to my door wondering what the address was here as her brother lay inside the apartment completely laid out…she was calling 911….
She was terrified. I saw that look and I”ve seen it before so many times…..I know you KNOW what I”m saying here….so I said not a word and headed over there…..
He was flat on his back, turning blue, but breathing. HEAVILY, but hard, and with each breath, spit flying out of his mouth…….I know YOU get this….
So, the first thing to do, VERY QUICKLY, is to assess the situation…what might it be? He’s BREATHING, thank God, no CPR required, so you have to look at what the body is doing and make an immediate assessment based on all your education and intuition…..he started to vomit….my daughter and her bf were there, but it was like watching a movie for me that I wasn’t into………that has NEVER happened to me before, “Turn him on his side!”….and I got SCARED………..I questioned my judgment in an emergency situation……I ran…I told them I would watch for an ambulance and go grab one of my Nurse friends who lives where I do now………
WTF????
OMG, I can’t believe this happened to me…..this man was in distress and I didn’t have a clue what to do……….
Even when I knew what to do……
If he didn’t need CPR, I was out of the picture. I didn’t trust my judgment………..I kept going inside to check on him, …comfort his sister, my daughter, and her bf that had more of a clue than I did……and all I wanted to do was RUN……..
WTF IS WRONG WITH ME?????>
THis is NOT how I would react in an emergency situation with a patient Ox!!!
I”M TOTALLY DEVASTATED!!!
I was prepared for CPR if it was needed, but who the FUCK am I when I ran when it wasn’t?
That’s NOT me………it scared the bejesus out of me!!!
I”ve never reacted that way. EVER in a situation such as this.
The paramedics came, I spoke with them for a few minutes….waited till they checked ox levels, bp and heart rate….and he was just coming too………he was going to be okay.
What happened to me, OX?
What happened to my INSTINCT? SUddenly, I was so self absorbed, I didn’t know what to DO!!!
If this man had needed CPR< i was prepared, but he didn't and I knew that, but beyond that, i wasn't sticking around.
This isn't LIKE me at all!!
What's happening to me that I'm such an evil bitch now? That I'm so CUT OFF from the suffering of others?
That scared the hell out of me!!!
I knew what to do before. Hospice, critical care, I KNEW what to do….
What's happening to me?
LL
Okay you lot –
Be warned that I am writing a rap song for all of us here! It will include rhyming gems stolen from various posters.
(You have been warned…) (Please don’t sue me for pinching your stuff; and especially don’t sue me just because it may stink!) :):):)
nolarn2bcop –
“talks down to me, patronizes, tries to intimidate bosses me and is just plain mean. No empathy, no conscience, thinks the rules don’t apply to her.”
I have a little trick I play on people who are like this (that is to say, people I can’t avoid (because who of us would WILLINGLY have them in our lives? I thought not…) I carry on as if they are normal. I smile, I am polite and helpful with them. I will ask them outright, with a smile on my face and my eyebrows raised, “You wouldn’t be trying to BOSS ME AROUND, now would you?”
If they speak to me like I am a piece of dirt, I will say to them something like, “Are you okay? You sound/look as if something is really the matter today? Are you sure there’s nothing I can do to help? Would you like to talk about it – I’m a very good listener”, or (for repeat offenders) “I’m sorry. I must have forgotten to tell you that I don’t respond to being talked down to. I’m ready to listen just as soon as you are ready to speak nicely to me”.
If I am being bossed around by someone who is not my boss, I will say, “Congratulations! I must have missed your promotion!” If they are my boss, I will say, “I don’t know if you realise this, but I would do what you are asking of me even if you spoke nicely to me?”
Bullies tend to back down after a few frustrating rounds like this, but the one-timers (people who are acting out and are not usually awful to get along with), invariably feel shame and apologise. I never rub anyone’s face in it; I move on.
Then I let it go – I don’t hold the grudge, I just continue to smile and to be friendly and helpful and polite, but I will call them on it in the same way every time they do it to me again. I work with kids and this is how I speak to the ones who are angry/abusive, and it usually works a treat. You have to disconnect yourself emotionally from what is going down and treat it like a clinical thing; but the smiling disarms them, as does the not buying into their nastiness.
It takes a great amount of practice not to buy into or be upset by the bad behaviour of people we have to work with etc. but with practice it becomes second nature. I am rarely ever spoken to badly by people I have to interact with on a regular basis. Nobody I work with would ever guess that I don’t actually like them, and life is so much smoother. Bullies think twice about taking you on, also.
LL –
about not being able to afford massage: there are things you can do, yourself, for FREE, at home. Google “self-massage” and see what comes up (I haven’t googled this myself, but I am pretty confident there will be stuff on the net). There are pressure points in your face, hands and feet that are all releatively easy to learn to work yourself (and easier to reach than one’s own back or shoulders!)
Backs and necks and shoulders can be relieved by rolling up a terry-towelling handtowel into a small, firm, cylinder, and putting it between your body and the inside of a doorframe (standing up) where you use your body to roll it up and down and press into your “sore spots”. The same thing placed under your neck or back while you lie on the floor and let your body relax into it while it presses hard up against the sore bits, works a treat. You need to stay on that spot until it stops hurting and the pain dissipates. This can be anywhere between 2 – 10 minutes. Any longer might indicate a more serious fix is required, but for tense muscles and pinching nerves, its a godsend.
“what about a book about gaslighting TECHNIQUES, even right down to hundreds of spathy comments made (a lot of similarities here with lots of posters, often even word for word as if out of spath textbook)”
There are many books that cover gaslighting along with the rest of what spaths do. A “phrase-book” might not work, because remember, most of what spaths say to us SOUNDS sensible or right – that’s why we doubt ourselves. Also – a lot of the things they say could also be used correctly and in context by normal people having normal conversations. For instance, if I said to my friend, “You ALWAYS lose your keys,” when in fact she does, then there would be nothing spooky about that. But if a spath who keeps hiding a victim’s keys, until the victim DOES begin to forget where they have left them at times, then when the spath says, “”You ALWAYS lose your keys,” there is an element of truth along with a liberal dose of gaslighting.
“I can’t TRUST my instincts, even though I really believe that those instincts spared me MORE grief by nudging my intuition OUT.”
The contradiction inherent in your statement is typical of PTSD thinking/feeling. It will pass. In the interim, close your eyes and just “feel” your instinct/gut/intuition. It’s not only there but it’s ALWAYS RIGHT. We crowd it out with our skewed “logic” when we are stressed and drown the noise it’s making with our overloaded brains – too many thoughts, so we ignore some of them. You CAN trust them again – it’s your scrambled thoughts that might need screening at the moment, but it will NEVER be your gut. Close your eyes, breathe deeply and concentrate and you will hear the truth you need to hear.
“I can’t stop THINKING about this. Trying to find answers feels obsessive to me.” Been there, done that – it will pass. x
“I know people can be mean, even abusive, but this mechanism is WORSE than being beaten and both have happened to me. I can see a fist coming at me”
With my first spath husband (husband number 2), I sat crying in my bed one night, rocking back and forth and wailing to my (then) mother-in-law that I would “rather be back with J—— being hit, than this…”
I know exactly what you mean. xxx