UPDATED FOR 2024. Editor’s note: The following was written by the Lovefraud reader who posts as “Quest.” He identifies what he believes is the shut down mechanism that psychopaths use on their victims.
As most of us know what its like to be a psychopath victim; I am not going to go into all the details of my relationship with a full-blown psychopathic woman that turned my life into a living hell in just 18 months. What I really want to talk about is the mental effects that this woman was able to inflict upon me without my conscious realisation; gaslighting it’s called.
Just so there is a little background, I am a 55-year-old male and split from my ex psychopath female mate three years ago. We were in a relationship for 18 months. At the time we split up, I knew the relationship was beyond repair, but had very little understanding of what had really happened to make the relationship such a disaster.
Two weeks before I left, I had been on the Internet researching mental disorders and had by chance run into the classification “psychopath.” At the time my real knowledge of the intimate details of the psychopathic condition were pretty limited. Anyway I Googled psychopath and found Lovefraud.com, and as they say, the rest is history.
What had she done?
Two weeks after leaving I realised that I was now damaged goods. Many times I found myself asking myself, what had this woman done to me and how did she do it??? I read every book I could find on the subject, about 20 in all, but still did not seem to have a satisfactory answer to my question, and certainly no real way of fixing what had been done. Most of the books that seem to have been written about the psychopathic condition tend to deal more with describing the psychopath themselves, which is great, rather than figuring out what exactly has happened to the minds of the victims of these monsters.
So what were my symptoms? Initially it was hard to get a grip of even this concept. On weekends I slept til noon; on weekdays I had to force myself out of bed to go to work. I was in a state of awareness that I can only describe as being hypervigilant for other psychopaths, or the possibility of them. Basically everyone I met was a potential psychopath until proven otherwise. Paranoia was rampant. I actually feared psychopaths, as I did not understand what this one woman had done to my mental state, or even how she had done it. This left me open and vulnerable to the possibility of running into another psychopath and not knowing how to defend myself. I had no clue as to what I was defending myself against.
As time passed. I learned how to see psychopaths. It was as if a sixth sense had been awakened and I was wired to the symptoms of psychopathy. Any symptom set the alarm bells ringing in my mind. Well, all this knowledge and awareness was great, but I still could not fix the damage. Some days there would be realisations, some days were great, others not so great. Sometimes while in a crowded room I would suddenly be overcome with paranoia and have to leave. What was going on? It was as if my own awareness of myself had somehow been turned off and I did not know where the ON button was.
In the last three years I have talked to many people about psychopathy. Some found it fascinating, some were victims themselves and could recognise what I was talking about. Most did not seem to have a clue as to what I was talking about and basically thought I was nuts.
Spelling error
So — “O like Umbrella” — where does that fit in you may ask? Well, one day while at work, I was on the phone talking to an East Indian guy. He was going to buy some products from the company I work for, and we were going to be shipping what he bought to him. Well, the guy’s name was one of those ones that you can’t pronounce or spell. He proceeds to spell his name — B like Bob, A like Apple, O like Umbrella — ????????????
He continued to spell but I heard nothing because my mind was stuck on, “O like Umbrella.” What had happened?
Well, while this was happening another part of my awareness had the sudden realisation that I had just been shut down. There was no “O” in “umbrella” and because he had said something that made no sense, my mind had basically shut down. At this point there was a kind of eureka moment, as I realised that that was how psychopaths get into the minds of their victims.
Anyone who has spent any time in an intimate relationship with a psychopath knows that things get very confusing at times. What appears to happen to the victim is a kind of mental shut down that seems to happen at a subconscious level, beyond the normal conscious awareness of the victim. The victim, not realising what is happening, slowly gets lulled into an almost vegetative state where they can hardly recognise themselves. It feels like their very essence or soul has been sucked right out of them, leaving a confused, rudderless entity, almost a zombie.
So what is happening here? Did I just have the ultimate realisation about psychopath victims because I had been able to watch my own mind get shut down by a spelling mistake? The East Indian thought “umbrella” was spelt “ombrella.”
Nonsense
As the days went by, I often thought about and talked about my revelation. How relevant was it? Would it make a difference? What I began to realize was that I now knew what my psychopathic ex had done to me, SHUT ME DOWN, and also I knew how she did it.
Having a conversation with a psychopath is not like having a normal conversation, especially if you are in a relationship with them. Initially in the early days of the relationship, everything seems normal. As time goes on, however, things tend to slowly become confused. Every conversation turns into a never-ending argument that seems to go round in circles, until the victim just gives up. Nothing is resolved and the arguments become more and more frequent, and more and more confusing.
The victim tries to make sense of what is going on around them. What they don’t realise is, nothing is supposed to make sense. The psychopath is in full attack mode on the victim’s sanity. The psychopath is basically talking nonsense, but the victim is not aware that it is nonsense, or that they are under premeditated attack. As the victim’s mind tries to make sense of the babble, not realising that its not supposed to make sense, because it almost does make sense, some part of the persons thinking processes shuts down. How this really works I am not sure, but I feel as if I am getting close to the realisation of it.
Shut down mechanism
One thing about the “O like Umbrella” incident was that I now had knowledge of how the shut down process works. Now, suddenly, I knew what had been done, shut down, and how it had been done. Suddenly the fear was gone, I now knew what I was defending myself against.
Read more: Gaslighting — 5 key points you need to understand
If it doesn’t make sense it’s probably nonsense and you are probably dealing with a psychopath. Because a psychopath is so good at hiding nonsense in amongst sense, most people miss the nonsense. Being aware of this puts the power in the hands of the victim or potential victim. If the victim is aware of the nonsense, it can’t shut them down, I hope. At this point, I at least feel more relaxed than I have in a long time.
So gaslighting shuts the victim down mentally. I feel it is important to realise this, because once a victim is shut down, it will take a long time to wake them up again. I guess the revelation here is realising the relationship between gaslighting and the shut down mechanism. It’s all in the nonsense.
If one can listen to the nonsense and realise that it is indeed nonsense, then theoretically, it will not shut the victim down, hopefully. I have yet to prove this concept. I’ll need to find another psychopath to test the theory.
Learn more: Tools for navigating narcissists and other manipulative people
Lovefraud originally posted this article on Jan. 15, 2011.
Sklar–
boy do I agree with you.
Hi strongsurvivor, I remember you! I think you are doing great and I’m glad you posted your question. I haven’t met anyone so can’t really offer any advice on that question, follow your heart seems to be the best thing to do, when you know he is real, and it sounds lilke you are doing that. I just wanted to say that I think your grieving process sounds totally normal! I still have good days and then bad days when I can’t stop thinking about spath and I become a crazed FB stalker!! But I think it is gradually winding down, I know he is an evil thing inside a human shell, like that movie Men in Black.
I can certainly understand your hyperviligence regarding your new b/f’s actions, it takes time to trust people (I guess that’s something we’re learning after rushing into other relationships). Keep us posted on what’s happening, I learn so much from all of you.
I am being a FB stalker today. I have just got to stop this. I figured out that they had changed the privacy settings to where a person can look at another person’s wall through a friend of a friend…Oh don’t listen to me. I did change my own privacy settings. I am glad to read that I am not the only one who does this.
Is there a way to block myself from seeing what he is doing? He is not on my friend list by the way?
TTS
I did it. I blocked him by name. That means I cannot see him either. I checked it out. That would seem extreme and RUDE, but then remember he hung up on me on Christmas Eve.
Anyone that wants to try this I just figured out the block works both ways.
Glad I could make you happy… LOL 😀
I haven’t been posting much lately…..going thru one of those periods of not wanting to focus so much on what’s behind me, & what it’s done to me—–from my own very dysfunctional childhood (intensely N mother, cruel & critical, distant dad, N/S brother) to the trauma of J’s deceiving, betraying, & abandoning me. Trying to focus more on WHO I AM, what I have, & what WONDERFUL possibilities the future has for me…..one of my favorite sayings has always been,
“To believe in God is to know that All the Rules will be Fair,
and that there will be Wonderful Surprises.”
But I’ve just read this article from Quest (I remember the original O for Umbrella post & it hit all the right keys for me then), & all the posts here…..& I just wanted to say……lemme see if I can say this right….
every time I do come to LF & read all your comments, I feel like I have many warm, loving, caring, comforting, understanding, & healing arms around me. It’s so incredible to read your comments & to think, “wow, she feels just like I do, her parents hurt her just as mine did me, omg what he/she did to him/her is exactly what J did to me.” That’s a feeling that touches me in a way that I Really can’t Properly Express! I’m so thankful that all of you are here.
I just have one personal thing to add here. It’s so bizarre & so disturbing. J walked out on me 8 months ago, & yeah, I had a nervous breakdown–Totally, made 2 pitiful suicide attempts, was nothing but a “big ball of pain in pajamas” (<from the song, "Notes to the Coroner), & didn't think the 10ton depression would ever lift, or that I'd ever be able to see the sun & feel life again. But now, as I'm finally healing, my dam hair is falling out!! For the last 2 months, I've been MOLTING! It falls out in patches, grows back, falls out in other places, grows back—cycling all over my head! Thankfully it hasn't all fallen out at once! I'd always had fine, soft hair, but lots of it. And then I got talked into cutting it (from 4" below my shoulders), & the stylist used a razor on it. Big mistake to do to a 66yo woman who's suffered from massive stress!
So I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this "delayed stress" reaction. I'm going to see an endocrinologist this week to see if the hideous stress has knocked my whole hormone/chemical balance outa whack. Maybe it was the brutal haircut (he just SCRAPED my fine hair!), but I wouldn't have expected my hair to decide to completely replace itself! And especially now when I'm at least 90% more whole & healthy than I was!
Yes to the hair!!!
I lost over 50 percent of my hair since months after psyco. and it went on for a year or more. My hair– no joke– was even “scared straight”!
I had the curliest, thick, italian hair and months after the shock of my first S–
my hair lost all of it’s curl.
thyroid and hormones were normal! I even ended up at Mayo clinic! It was part of PTSD. It’s all back now. 🙂
I know it was the shock and the nutrition. The sudden drop in weight an constant stress hormones in my bod.
Have that thyroid checked. And cortisol.
Get Nioxin shampoo, scalp therapy condition and this other stuff you put on your scalp everyday. Take Biotin pills– you can get them at any drug store. Eat right! Take major vitamins and I’m so glad you are going to the endocrinologist. B12 shots helped my hair come back as well.
Thanks, akitameg! I’m sorry your hair was affected, but–like all the understanding here at LF—glad to know that I’m not the only one who’s been affected this way!
I did lose 25#, but it wasn’t all “sudden”….I dropped 10# right away, & then the other 15 fell off over a few months.(I don’t like losing my hair, but I LOVE being back in my 6s, for the first time in 7 yrs!)
I’m very careful about nutrition. I don’t eat a lot (never have), but I don’t eat junk….when I eat, I eat as well as I can for someone who doesn’t cook! And my son was living with me for 6mos, & he made those “meals” every nite: chicken or fish, veggies, & starch! I eat veggies one nite, protein the next, starch the next. Like that.
I do take 5000mcg of biotin every day, along with biotin & all the aminos & protein powder in a smoothie every day. And I’ve done B12 shots 3-5x a week for years. (I don’t absorb B12 well orally.)
And Nioxin! OMG that was even worse! I got it & started using it & then my hair REALLY started falling out—that’s when I researched it & found that it can cause your hair to SHED for up to 2 weeks. Or MORE! & I couldn’t afford to lose any more hair! That’s when I went to my dermatologist & she said STOP the Nioxin, apply Lidex every nite, & continue taking biotin. Also gave me a steroid shot.
My FNP did labs a couple of wks ago, & my thyroid was slightly off…..not enuf for her to treat it, tho, so that’s why she sent me to the endo. GPs don’t use the same thyroid guidelines that endocrinologists do. Did you go to an endocrinologist for testing? According to the last labs, my cortisol is normal…..I have a hard time believing that, with the constant brain stress I put myself thru!
I’m horrified to hear that this might last a year! But I’m glad to hear that your shedding finally stopped & that you got your “thick, curly Italian hair back”!! Did the curl ever come back?
Wow, You all are really helping me in a lot of ways. I am having some health issues, surprise, surprise what else is new. The problem is knowing where to start and being held hostage by my doctor who is just a physician’s assistant. I get along with her all right. She does understand the anxiety and has even recommended a therapist to me if I want to go. I do sooner or later. Rather then typing the list of symptoms here you may have just nailed it with with the Thyroid thing.
I do not eat right so it is no surprise that I have gained weight. I was already overweight but I just seem to be puffy. I got a bottle of vitamins and minerals to start with, but when I got them home I realize that I may be allergic to iodine. Let me explain why. Does anyone know anybody who has been allergic to iodine? I didn’t take the vitamins but rather called my pharmacist who is really helpful to me as he knows I have been allergic to a lot of antibiotics in recent years. I thought he was going to say no that is not possible but hesitating when looking it up. He told me to try taking some vitamins without the minerals for now. Not sure.
I have always been allergic to shell fish so just don’t eat it. I can eat halibut or cod but no shell fish. In other words, a can of tuna is not a problem. One day I ate a package of chicken salad made by NutriSystem that my mother gave me. She is always on some kind of diet. Since I had liked the chicken salad before I ate the entire thing and then had the symptoms that my throat was closing up on me….fortunately I popped a benedryl in time. I realized that they had changed the formula and added fish. It turned out that instead of regular chicken salad, this was a Ceasar Chicken Salad. I believe the only fish in it was anchovies. I was reading about them on the internet and it says that they may be soaked in brine. Brine what? Where does iodine come from……from Kelp?
I do not use idodized salt but hardly ever use table salt. I probably need some iodine, but am not sure I am not allergic to it.
I was thinking maybe I need to go to an allergist but maybe I should start with an endocrinologist. The doctor has me set up with a neurologist because of rebound headaches from migraines. Hold that thought. The migraines are not that bad, and the so called rebound headaches are the result of caffeine from Excedrin Migraine. I was thinking I was taking too much aspirin because I bleed a lot at the dentist. After half of my dental work I told them I was going to see the doctor first. It turns out that I am not anemic. I have a very good hermatrit, but probably have thin blood. The reason I got the multiple vitamins is so I could store up some Vitamin K.
My thinking is that I need to take control of my health and go to one doctor at a time who will listen to me. I do have good insurance. By saying that my doctor has me hostage, she fills my anti-anxiety meds which she doesn’t have a problem with but recently they discontinued the narcotic drug which some people take for pain…Darvocet. I was not taking a lot of it because after a couple of those for a two day migraine I would switch to Excedrin as it worked better for the second phase. She gave me Ultram. The main side effect is nausea. I didn’t try one YET. Do tell you the truth I am getting absolutely terrified of medication but also afraid to be without the few that I do take.
Help! I haven’t started losing my hair but my nails do not look that great and neither does my skin….too dry. I am getting to the point where I do not recognize my body. it has changed too much in the last two years. Yes age is a factor, but stress is more of a factor I think.
I have a dentist appointment tomorrow just to get a crown cemented on. Before I have any more work done I need to start taking some kind of vitamin. I do have a dental phobia which doesn’t help. I have put this work off as well as other doctors. I am now actually doing it, but don’t want to go in the wrong direction like neurologist when I need something else.
TTS.
Yes, if anybody is allergic to shellfish, that is a classic indicator for iodine allergy. It’s not in fish, just in SHELLfish. When asking my patients, I’d even assume “shellfish makes me sick to my stomach” as an indicator.