Editor’s Note: This story was submitted by a Lovefraud reader who we’ll call “Marcia.” She describes her involvement with a man who she now believes is a sociopath, and how her relationship had three distinct phases.
I met him on Chemistry.com in February of 2009. He wrote to me through the site and we corresponded several times before speaking on the phone. I liked his profile very well and enjoyed his style of writing and what he wrote in our correspondence. When we spoke on the phone, we had no problem starting and maintaining a conversation on the phone. He was articulate, intelligent and had all the time in the world for me.
We met on March 6, 2009 for a drink. I got there first and very symbolic of our relationship, he blindsided me and sneaked behind me and playfully grabbed the back of my neck. The attraction and chemistry was immediate. He was extremely charming. He looked into my eyes with such a piercing look that I felt he was seeing through me. He was fun. He made me laugh. He treated me like a gentleman. He had a great energy. I just enjoyed being around him and with him all the time.
That very same night we had dinner together and made love. Since I was an hour away from him, I was staying at a hotel that night. So he stayed with me and we had a wonderful and relaxing breakfast on the porch next morning. When I was leaving he asked me if I could see him next day. I was coming to town to see a ballet with my girlfriend so we decided to have dinner with my girlfriend. He invited me to stay at his place that night and I accepted.
Lavish flattery
Lavish flattery began immediately. There was nothing I could do wrong. I was sexy, I was beautiful, I was attractive, my energy was great, it was fun to be around me, I was the best mother, I was the best doctor, I was the best lover, I was the best friend, I had great taste for clothing and jewelry, nobody has ever loved him like I did, he had never loved anyone like he loved me, he would marry me in a heartbeat, finally he had found the woman he wanted to spend the rest of his life with, that is why he had never settled down before, he did not want to settle for less, and I was the proof he was right to wait for the right person.
Every time he would see me, he couldn’t catch his breath (he was such a great actor, there was a visible pause in the movement of his chest). I was wise, I was brave, I was evolved, I was everything he would ever wanted from a woman. I was funny. He had such a great time with me no matter what we did together. I was fit. I was strong. He would send me fifty text messages a day telling me how much he loved me and how much he missed me and how even exchanging text messages he would be aroused, and how he was so attracted to me. He would bring me roses, buy me jewelry, music, wine, etc.
The pity play
Pity play began almost at the same time. He told me how abusive his parents were. How his mom used to scream at him and beat him. How his father was always dissatisfied with him and how he was refusing to tell him that he was proud of him to this day. How his parents’ divorce when he was 20 affected him because he was put in the middle. And then it was his wife and how she cheated on him with many men including his closest friends, and how she got pregnant many times and had an abortion every time, how he knew it was because those were not his children, how she gave him a genital wart and he had to have surgery to remove it. Then it was his ex-girlfriend and how she was dependent on drugs and him and she would not let go of him and how he could not leave her because everyone in her family had abandoned her after she had disclosed that she had been sexually abused by a family member. And how his boss was treating him just like his dad did and how abusive the boss was, etc.
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From that point on, we had four months of amazing time together. Retrospectively that was the “honeymoon phase of our relationship.” Also retrospectively I see that things were moving very fast. Only a week after we met, he was telling his mother that he has found the woman he wants to spend the rest of his life with and in the first month of our relationship he bought me a ring as a present. It was not an engagement ring and he did not propose but he emphasized that he had never given a woman a ring before.
Many women
Very quickly he started introducing me to his friends. He “could not wait.” We went and visited his mom in Rhode Island for Mother’s Day and she liked me and my seven-year old daughter very much. She told him “she is beautiful not only on the outside but inside.” In that trip I also met his father, his stepmother, and two of his three brothers. During my visit, his mom told me that he has brought so many women home that she had told him “no more women unless they have a ring on their hand.” I looked at him, he laughed and pointed to the ring and said, “she has a ring.”
That was the very first time I questioned him. I told him I thought taking me to his mom was something special. He became very defensive and angry. He said after his wife of five years left him 18 years earlier, he had been single and dating and “naturally” had met many women. He said he had taken about five of them home but not to introduce to his mom. He just invited them to join him in the trip to his hometown. He said he had taken only two women to introduce to his mom as people he had considered marrying. He was upset with me for a couple of days after we returned but then sent me an email and apologized for his mother’s “insensitive” remark and his own as well.
On another occasion when we were staying with one of his friends when his friend’s 8-year-old daughter asked him why he did not bring his “other girlfriends.” He asked who she was talking about and she named a few names! He did not respond but I immediately felt like a number and completely disposable. I discussed how it made me feel with him but his universal response was anger and blaming things on me, my “insecurity,” my “fears,” etc.
Borrowing money
Very soon he prepared me for borrowing money. He told me how someone had scammed him on paying his student loans and how he had all this debt to pay but it was all going to be clear in a couple of months. How he had been helping a friend in advertising for his business and how he was not paying him and how there were thousands of dollars he would be receiving soon from him. How he was so responsible with money and he would never use a credit card and only use debit card so he knows he only spends the money he has. How he would appreciate it if I put costs of all the activities we were doing together on my credit cards and once his student loan is clear, he would pay me back. Soon he would ask me to put charges related to his canoe club on my credit card promising that once he collects money from members of the club, he would pay me back. Once his boss fired him, he could not pay for his bills and rent and he would insist that he could not borrow money from me. He had gained my trust at such a deep level that I handed him a blank signed check and then he wrote close to $2000 and cashed it. Later on when I asked him to pay me back, he said he neither had the money to pay me back nor he owed me any money.
Relationship had three distinct phases
As described in any typical relationship with a sociopath/narcissist, our relationship had three distinct phases: honeymoon, tension building, and finally violent phase.
In the honeymoon phase even when we text messaged or talked he would get aroused. Whenever he saw me, whether it was an act or a true reaction, I could visibly see his chest would stop moving and he would take a deep breath and would tell me, “you take my breath away.” He could not keep his hands off me and we made love twice a day when we were together.
In the tension-building phase, our sex life suddenly went from what I would rate 10 out of 10 to 1 out of 10. This was so sudden and so drastic that I suspected he might have developed erectile dysfunction. He no longer initiated having sex with me and when I did, 9 out of 10 times he would say he was “tired.” Other excuses included being “busy” or “depressed.”
This went on until November when I found hundreds of pictures of naked women he was having “cybersex” with on his laptop. There were some emails suggesting he had invited these women to meet and have a drink and “see where it goes” but I had no proof this had actually had happened. He adamantly denied having a physical relationship with any of them. I broke up with him for a week but he asked for forgiveness, cried and said he has had sex-addiction for five years and now is going to get help and promised he would stop doing it right away. I got back with him but our sexual relationship never improved.
Self-centered
Regardless of how legitimate my question or concern was, his very first reaction was always becoming defensive and turning things around and attacking me. This was always followed by a few days of completely shutting me off, not contacting me and even ignoring me when I reached out. Early on in our relationship, after a couple of days, he would contact me and apologize for his reaction. But after the honeymoon phase, the days he would shut me out became longer and longer and no apology was offered. Instead, over time he would build up a grudge and become punitive. In response to many red flags in his behavior, he would accuse me of being insecure, having fear-based reactions, having no impulse control, blowing small things up to huge problems, being depressed, being anxious, not exercising enough, at one time sleeping too much, in another time sleeping too little, lack of self-confidence, etc. At the end he said I was crazy, I was fucked up, I had taken joy out of his life, I had brought negative energy into his life, I had made him depressed, he was not excited to see me anymore, he did not want to be around me and he wanted me out of his life.
By then I had recognized how self-centered he was. It was never about me and my needs. It was only and always about him and no matter how much I gave, he would feel his “deeper needs were not fulfilled.”
Violent phase
The relationship moved into violent phase and beginning mid January, on multiple occasions he tried to hit me and even choke me. This was particularly dangerous three weeks ago when I discovered many text messages on his cell phone indicating he has been sleeping with multiple women during our relationship. When confronted him, he described details of his sexual relationship with this women behind my back, without protection, like he was talking about weather. He had no remorse and no shame and did not offer an apology. He hurt me with such a righteous indignation and entitlement that it was beyond my comprehension. His absolute callous disregard for my feelings and legitimate needs were astonishing. He continued to blame everything, including his cheating and lying to me, on me.
Upon discovery of undeniable truth on his text messages and speaking with the women involved, I left him. I did file a police report but he lied through his teeth and police did not pursue the investigation. Following the tactic of offense is the best defense, he did file multiple police reports on me including one of harassment. He also filed for a protective order, which was denied. Currently I am suing him in Small Claims Court for the money he owes me.
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Lovefraud originally posted this story on March 12, 2010.
Dear Truelove, Jazzy and whyme,
I’m glad that you guys are starting to focus on YOURSELVES…that’s the key, and if I get too pushy, tell me to shut my yap!!!
When I started this I went into it with the idea to get THEM to see and change—I came out of it with the idea that ONLY I CAN CHANGE ME. Big difference in life.
WHYME, glad you are getting out and putting in applications, that in itself is a good thing!~ and I think you are right, none are as blind as those who WILL NOT SEE…but none so SEEING as those of us who have the SCALES fall from our eyes!
I feel like I was so blind for so long, and now I have eyesight! The colors are so bright and vibrant and life is better than it has ever been in so many ways!
BTW I got some salt substitute today while I was out and WAH LA!!!! It ain’t salt, but it sure beats the lack of anything!!!!
Thanks Oxy.
I dont think you are being too pushy at all.
Actually,you said exactly what I needed to hear and I really appreciate it.
It brought it home for me,and today I am in a much better place,realizing that I can only take care of me..
I have thought of him and the e-mail,and him and the new gf a bit today..
But only because he just sent it to me.
I DO NOT and WILL NOT plan to Respond to him or his e-mail.
I truly feel that I am Done with him,Forever..
I am looking forward to my new life in my new town and have many adventures ahead of me.
Sure,it brought up some old,raw feelings,but I am gonna claim it as a mere,short lived,minor,emotional set back,and be done with it..
I appreciate your honesty.
I promise you…
It is refreshing to me,and helpful,and it is easy for me to hear because I know that you are speaking from experience..
I will say this:
I am not quite where I totally wanna be in my recovery from the whole situation,but Im grateful to not be where I was, even only three months ago.
I was so devastated at that time,and knowing that I am making positive choices for myself now,is making me feel stronger..
Things I Plan To Do when I hit my New Town:
1.Rejoin yoga again.(It always makes me feel great inside and out.)
2.Start my new job.
3.Actively go out and meet new people and new faces,as well as be in contact with the people I already know there.
A friend told me last night..”A year from now,you wont even be thinking about him at all.”
I think its true,or at least not in the same confusing light.
I think I will be grateful as time goes on,that I walked away from the situation with MOST of my dignity in tact..
Yes,I have alot to learn about how to Not React.
But today I am still in NC,and have not contacted him in any way whatsoever since Sept.30th..
I will stick with it,knowing that I am helping myself in doing so..
Please keep giving the honest feedback.
It is why Im here.
The other reason is that maybe I am telling a story someone else may relate to as well.
The good news is we dont have to be alone in this journey,and that there is Hope on the other Side and Away from the spath.
I loved my life before he got in it,and I know I will love it even more as I become stronger from this experience..
Truelove
Dear Truelove,
Good for you, Sweetie!!! You keep on keeping on making the best of your life and making good healthy choices.
Learning from these experiences with the psychopaths is a good lesson in this life and will protect us from more like them in the future and YOU WILL MEET MORE OF THEM, believe me on that score.
My BIGGEST MISTAKE was thinking when I got “over” one of them that I knew what MY problem was, and I sure as heck did NOT know, now I am learning and realizing that THEY are the problems, and that I LET THEM INTO MY LIFE over and over. NO MORE!!! When I see a RED FLAG (dishonest or nasty behavior, mooching, not keeping their word, lying –at all—even once—not working, not being responsible, etc. OUT OF MY LIFE!!! FOR GOOD AND FOR GONE. ONE AND DONE!!!
Remember, ONE AND DONE. No second chances for dishonesty. If you stay the heck away from “relationships” with dishonest people your life will run smoothly. WOW!!! What a novel concept! LOL ROTFLMAO
Oxy,
are you sposed to have NO salt? What about sea salt? I use Himalayan salt, which is from ancient seabeds under the Himalayas. It has many benefits which you can’t get from either salt or a salt substitute or even from many other sea salts. Is is a matter of water retention? Blood pressure? Taking a lot of potassium will offset those.
I’m not a dietary counselor, as I know you’ve been, but that’s been my experience. I used to retain fluid & got into the habit of taking potassium. Also B12 shots several times a week helps, too.
I also have Himalayan salt lamps in my house! They’re incredible. They’re sposed to help cleanse the air & the energy………well, I don’t know if they do that or not, but they sure put out a lovely light…..wonderful in the bedroom at night (I Can NOT sleep in the dark), or for any other room where you want low light.
Dear Whyme, nah, not NO salt, just keep the SODIUM to a heart healthy level below 2,000 mg per day. With the kind of “country cooking” I have done all my life, I have eaten LOTS OF SALT and sodium in breads (heavy in sodium!) sausage, ham, cheese, milk (naturally in milk, not added) but even canned veggies have loads of sodium added.
So what I will have to do is to buy frozen or fresh veggies, cut out most of the cheese, and so on, and put the SALT SHAKER down! LOL
All of the “prepared” mixes for tacos, chili, or anything like that has lots of salt (sodium) added even the low fat salad dressings are loaded with sodium even though they are only 35 cal per serving. So I am WHINING ABOUT THE LOW SALT (“NO SALT”) DIET. Hey, I’m allowed a pity party sometimes! LOL ROTFLMAO
Basically what I am doing is to cut out the UNhealthy, high fat, high sodium country-cooking laraping good food I have inhaled and all the empty calories I consumed between supper and bedtime. No more buckets of home made ice cream, yogurts, cheeses or all that good stuff.
Like my doctor said when I told her “high salt diet didn’t used to bother me” and she said “Well, you’ve never been THIS OLD BEFORE!” and she was RIGHT as bad as I hate to admit it.
I just have to belly up to the bar and admit that I’m a SALT-A-HOLIC! But in just a FEW days My legs are no longer swelling and while food doesn’t taste quite as well with the salt substitute I’m getting used to it.
When I went to vote today I ran in to a friend I hadn’t seen in a while, she isn’t much older than me, she is using Oxygen (she was a smoker too) and barely able to get around, she is only like 66-7 years old to my soon to be 64, and she did NOT look good at all. She’s had bad heart problems and pneumonia and on Oxygen, and probably had gained 45-50 pounds since I saw her last….and I realized that I was ON MY WAY THERE if I had not quit the cigarettes, the high salt and the too many calories.
I’ve always been ACTIVE and pretty healthy, but the STRESS has taken its toll on me, I know it has, my disease resistence is down and I’ve had some infections since the “summer of chaos” and the weight gain has percepitated blood sugar and blood pressure rises and swelling in my feet and legs I’d never had before, because I was NOT taking care of MYSELF.
I quit the cigarettes sometime over a year ago and it was NOT easy I am here to testify, but I did it…and the weight loss and the lowering of my sodium intake are also things that if I don’t take care of will PROFOUNDLY negatively impact my health MORE than they already have. I’m at that “turning point” where I am still healthy enough to STOP the progression of the problem, but if I don’t stop it, it will go down hill like a bob-sled leading to severe health problems which I do not want or need.
That’s the thing about “us” is that we don’t look after OURSELVES, but we focus on fixing others while our own health and well being slides down the toilet. I’m done with that! It is BETTER LATE THAN NEVER, so TODAY is the first day of the rest of my life and I’m taking advantage of it.
I may bitch and whine about the low sodium and low calories but I am going to STICK to it….found a great site called http://www.fatsecret.com that helps you keep up with your calories and exercise EASILY and I’m using that, but I am apparently the only one on the site that is on LOW SODIUM diet, and all the low cal recipes are high in sodium, but I’ll work on changing some of them so I can have some good things too.
The salt substitute is potassium chloride instead of sodium chloride so can’t over do on it either, but a little bit helps the taste.
I’m glad you are starting to take care of yourself too, Whyme, and that’s what we have to do! PUT OURSELVES FIRST!!! We can do it!!! We’re a couple of determined old birds!!! TOWANDA!!!! (((hugs))))
hi all
i am feeling really lonely and scared tonight. and not about the phone call, although it doesn’t help.
i left work a bit early, my back was acting up, and so was my chemical reactivity. i came home and iced my back for awhile, and then to neurfeedback, and home. was going to do some more owrk, but find i am sad and overwhlemed. i am in a pickle at work and don’t know how to get out of it. it’s all about fear and assholes. well, is most everything negative i experience about those tow things! i have been fretting all night.
we partnered with another org to produce an event – well, i did all the organizing, but they provided a venue and twinned it with something they were doing that meant we made more money….anyhoo, the liasion there was a freaking nightmare. and one step growls at nightmares as i posted last week.
i didn’t get a contract. our orgs are intimately intwined and i thought the scary head dude of my org had taken care of sorting the payments. he hadn’t. i presumed and did not ask. because he scares me, and i suck at dealing with this kind of situation. i am pretty good at what i do, but in this org. i feel abandoned, without structure, support, an allie or a clear mandate. They think they have a clear mandate and it keeps shifting and i am well nigh insane from it. i actually don’t even care about the org – i just want to get out with my skin intact –
i am taking steps to deal with the slippery nature of the work. but i don’t know how to deal with the nightmare 1 and 2 without getting deeper into the swamp. can someone please talk me down?
oh, and the doc called today – high creatinine levels. okay, that accounts for a small bit of crazy. she told me to take more anti- inflammatories (her idea of how to deal with my knees and legs blowing up), anit-inflammatories will cause creatinine to rise. grrrr. okay, just mark this one a rant.
One,
You need to make an ally out of your boss. Discuss the situation with him, matter of factly and just say you thought he’d taken care of the payments and contractual details when he handed it it you.
Call the pickle what it is. And be onset about you ideas for resolving it and your concerns about the relationship with the woman you growled at.
She may not like you or she may get over it. No matter. Business isn’t personal and the orgs are interwined. Neither of you can afford a feud. She no more than you.
Breathe deep. People growl under stress sometimes and it doesn’t have to be the end of the world. Just feelis like it.
I think that is guilt. And while it may torture, it usually doesn’t kill. Unless somebody has been killed, it can all be resolved.
Focus on the problem. Not the people. The problem can be solved. And somewhere in it, is a win/win for both orgs.
Don’t forget to breathe!
silver – he really intimidates me silver. well, he intimidates most people. the person who should be my ally in this is intimidated by him also.
but i know you are right. i have been trying to deal with it sideways so that i didn’t have to talk to him – he REAAAALLy intimidates me. he interviewed me for the job, and i couldn’t read him – something very cloaked and unkind about him.
i know you are right – i have to deal with him directly. erggh.
One,
This guy puts his pants on one leg at a time like everybody else and his butt is hanging in the breeze. He has to trust you to be loyal to him and help get him out of the mess. He’s in it too.
The board could choose to hang him for it.
Be focused on the problem and that tasks to solve it. LET GO of his personality. It doesn’t matter so much. A nice guy could make things worse too.
Do the right thing.
Let GO of the emotions and just do your job. Your job is to make him look good to the board.