Editor’s Note: Lovefraud received the following article from the reader in Australia who posts as “Dani S.”
I recently had the unfortunate experience of coming across another personality disorder, this time on Facebook. I love Facebook, as growing up in a small country town and moving to the city, Facebook has been a great place for me to reconnect with old school friends and to chat with them online.
I have always been very careful never to add friend request unless I know the person personally, so I thought that I was safe! Wrong!
I joined a group called “Dead Beat Dads.” The group had over 300 members, ranging from mothers, stepfathers and children of fathers that have experienced or are experiencing the frustration of fathers abandoning their financial and emotional responsibility to their children.
Antagonist
I initially enjoyed the connection and the chats between members, but it was not long before a guy came into the group who antagonised the members. If a member posted something, he would pounce back. “Well you shouldn’t have deliberately got yourself pregnant. It is your fault and to then ask for him to pay is disgusting.” Frequently he told members they were liars.
He put up post after post, sometimes 20 a day. He loved posting statistics of suicide rates of children who live without a father and made the comment frequently that “False claims of abuse is abuse,”
He completely dominated any comment made by any members, and members found his tone and comments very offensive. He claimed that he had no children and lived with his wife of 10 years who had kids to another man. He said he was happy his wife never asked for money from her ex, and said that the ex saw the kids all the time.
Aliases
I watch his posts for a while and noticed that his story varied, if not changed completely. He said to members that we needed to show him DNA proof before we could call anyone a Dead Beat!
He seemed to spend 24 hours a day watching and posting on this group, and it didn’t take me too long to realise this person had some real issues. When he made a comment, his “men’s group” would quickly jump to his defence.
I did a bit of research on the members of his men’s group and realised that all eight of their Facebook profiles had no information, two had the same picture as one another, and six of them had no friends at all.
I suggested to him that I believed his “men’s group” was a group of made up people with only him as the member. I said, “It is funny, when you post something, minutes later all these men fly to your defence and six of them have not obtained one friend but go straight to the Dead Beat Dads site.”
Stalking
He was furious with my comments, called me a liar and said I should learn to close my legs and I should be responsible for my child on my own, or I should let the father see the child. I told him my child’s father abandoned her and stated he never wanted to see her again. The guy said, “Well if you weren’t such a C#*T, he would have wanted to see the child.”
Then it all started! Some of friends off my Facebook friends list got emails from him saying I was a prostitute and fathers have rights and I should go to jail. He emailed my partner six times from four of his aliases, saying I am a prostitute, he had me last night when I was working down the road, and she said she is leaving you for me because you have a small penis. Another said, “I bet you can taste me in her!” I One that made us laugh said, “She is leaving you for me and taking your Camero and Trans Am.” Being Australian, we don’t even have those cars here. The worst was he emailed my daughter and said your mum is a whore and you need to go to the police to inform them.
I now know that I was not protecting myself well enough on Facebook, as everyone on the outside world could see who I was in a relationship with, and the link to my children. I also had my place of work on there, and when I looked at his profile, he had my place of work listed in his likes and interests.
Even though this person claimed to be in Canada and I am in Australia, I was a little unnerved about the situation. But I was angry that, because he didn’t like my comment, he decided that to silence me, he would, stalk, harass and slander me. He also said on the group that he would copy my picture and start a profile of me and write stupid comments on the group. I said, “Well that will look funny, me arguing with myself, and you have just written what you are going to do.”
Confrontation
I got back onto the Dead Beat Dads site and posted to the guy, “Why do you have my place of work listed on your profile? And why have you stalked me, emailed my friends and family? I believe you have a personality disorder.”
He said I was lying and another member said to the guy, “I have just looked at your profile and her place of work is there, so it is obvious there is only one liar amongst us.”
After that post, four women from the site emailed me, saying the same thing had happened to them. The group’s admin contacted me also. I decided to not fear this person, and to backspath him, as EB would say.
I posted next, “It does not take a psychology degree to realise this guy has a serious personality disorder. His obsession with this site is beyond normal, and stalking members is just plain psychopathic! I believe you have lost your children due to abuse, as you keep quoting, ”˜False claims of abuse is abuse.’
“You get angry at women that move interstate, and you claim to know family and criminal law. I believe what you know about family law is what you have learnt trying to see your kids. If you had studied law for 15 years as you claim, you would have a career in law, not as a self-employed MC. You talk to us women on here like you are talking to your ex, and I believe you stalk members because in your mind, you are stalking your ex, as you have lost control of your children and your ex, and they probably have to move interstate all the time to be safe from you! You say you know about criminal law and stalking laws. Is that because you have been in so much trouble for your behaviour?
Another member jumped in, saying she believed he was an absolute Spath when he said that (we) need to show (you) DNA testing and that is very egocentric and grandiose! The group member thanked me for standing up for myself and the other members as he had been a disturbing menace for a couple of months.
Lock down
Then the next day when I went on to look at the group it was gone! He said it was his and his men’s group job to shut down every Dead Beat Dads group on the Internet.
Strangely now, I saw him, I heard him and I knew him. I knew the language, I knew the threats and I knew the bullying! I saw the red flag almost immediately. But this time I didn’t cower. I may have been wrong making such a big statement to him, but I will never be controlled by anyone ever again, or have anyone try to put fear into me again. I just hope I have heard the last of him.
I have now locked down my Facebook profile so no information is visible for the world to see. I also now will not up my photo on my profile, as he made me realise how easy it is to steal identities. I maybe still a little naïve, but I am getting there!
The group leader’s Facebook profile is no longer available and the group is gone. I just pray she didn’t also fall victim to this harassment and cyberbullying as well. He laughed that he was untouchable.
Dani S
Dani S, this is an awesome and MUCH needed article!!!!
The internet has opened up global doors for genuine people, as well as frauds. I’ve posted my experiences as a former AOL Chat Host which ended with a woman’s murder.
It is so vital that online life be strictly monitored with appropriate boundaries. Keeping one’s social network profile PRIVATE for friends, only, is priority. Profile photographs should be ambiguous – something that interests us, NOT a personal headshot. Accepting “mutual” friends as such can also be very dangerous – many people still accept anyone, and everyone, as social network “friends” because they believe that the more “friends” that they have, the more popular they are.
Starting a discussion board or group on a social networking site can be rewarding, but individuals have to set their personal boundaries, themselves.
“Harassment by Technology” is a law in the State of Pennsylvania, and it varies from State to State, and country to country. This includes stalking, threats, harassment, slander, and communication by 3rd parties. Know your Country’s laws, know your State’s laws, and the instant someone begins a campaign of harassment, contact your law enforcement officials, immediately. Keep records of all communications via text messaging, emails, forum boards, websites, etc., and provide copies of the documentation.
Thank you, so much, Dani S for posting this very, very important experience.
Brightest blessings!!!!
Dani,
Thank you for posting this! I have had the experience of dealing with my ex on Facebook. I put a block on him and he can’t see my profile at all. I also blocked those who are close friends of his that I know of as he can always get in through another account. My information on FB is seen by friends only. I don’t allow anything to be shown information wise, except that which FB insists on posting. I’ve covered this 6 ways to Sunday. My family members and some of my friends have blocked him as well. What happens when you do that is that it’s as though you don’t exist on FB. I REFUSE to leave FB because my kids and I keep in touch on there and through FB, I too have found many old friends.
I have considered removing my profile, briefly, but that’s exactly what he would like to see. My question is, can you change your name to a pseudonym once your account is set up? I know that some on here have accounts using another name.
Buttons, In my state, they now have a law similar to yours in PA. It’s considered “Cyber Stalking” here and it’s a new law that has just been passed.
Hugs to all!
Cat
Dani S
Thanks for courage, stealth and fearlessness in the face of h a scary threatening force….you stood firm in the face of evil and won through….inspirational as ever ….I was wondering where you were!! you are right here..right now..blessings and lovex
Yes Facebook is a mental hospital. Personally I find it terribly superficial and it seems to encourage people to put their personal information out there. I am amazed how many morans do this. It is like a sociopath’s candy shop.
That guy you mentioned he is one of the millions of fearl headbangers running loose on Facebook.
yes, we just just outed a con, playboy type on there today. It can be a haven for ‘crazies’….
Just watch what they say and anyone that becomes defensive and hateful.. is feeling threatened.. so red flag….
also yesterday.. there was some man telling people that he needed money because his daughter had been shot in Africa..
YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!
Cat, yes you can change your name on there. Just go to your profile and click on the “Edit” feature. You can put a different profile photo and name on there, and the only ones who will know will be those friends that view your timeline… I just had a “Friend” do that today, and I couldn’t figure out who they were!
Cat – when i wanted to go underground – i let all my friends on fb know that i was deleting my profile and that if they wanted t stay in touch they should get in touch with me within two days. I then created a new email account that i use only for facebook, a pseudonym and a fake pic. Now i hang out in COMPLETE anonymity and feel safe.
Hens ”“you isolate yourself on lf too; rarely saying more than a few lines about yourself and your feelings”and last night you called your very real and oft hidden feelings a ’pity party’. I don’t know what it feels like over there, but it sure doesn’t read like that over here. It reads as emotional pain that needs some space and a witness. You are a kind scared soul. This is a relatively safe place to bring your spath fears. Airing fears can ’normalize’ them”and they lose their potency.
Homophobia. Well fuck, it’s not easy. I used to be very dykey. Not now. I tend to get to know people a fair bit before outing myself ”“ never did out myself at my last job ”“ to anyone. That’s pretty weird for me. Just outed myself to a community garden member Monday night. She had shared something about depression a while ago ”“ took a risk with me. I checked her out further and felt safe saying something, and STILL there was stiffness in our conversation. Her problem, not mine. But it’s not going to cause me any trouble to be out there. Just a bunch of silly neo liberal fawning to deal with. Like a rash, but nothing more. I need some queer friends. Just lost the last one, my best friend. Spath collateral. And the very queer pos friend. She and I are both pretty kinky, so we shared that.
Was thinking about this coming weekend. A long weekend here. Rented a car for 2 days. 🙂 taking off to the country. I was walking up from the water tonight, and all of a sudden I thought about how close the spath lives—————..well, that was good for a 10 minute fantasy. There are always a couple of BIG guys in that fantasy. They provide em, ’containment’.
And that little rant was because I’ve lost 2 friends I wouldn’t have lost if not for the damn spath. Once I am a bit more on my feet, I am going to get involved in some queer group here ”“ maybe the film fest”dunno. Something. I can be the old woman at ’50′. Snort! But you know what I mean. There isn’t even a gay bar here to shun. 😉
I will work it out hens BECAUSE I HAVE TO. I can’t keep living like this. Even before the spath ”“ I knew I had to do something.
Your isolation is too tight now. What once saved and provided, now chokes off. It needs to change. There must be some two spirited groups down there.
best,
one step
ps – can you get any schooling because of your status?
My Indian status? Not sure about that one Onestep.. I have often thought if I get to where I can’t do the landscaping thing I will start driving a truck, a big rig, but of course I need my eyes fixed first for that, and I am such a homebody and with the weiners that prolly would be a bad choice.. I am no flaming queen, I dont think I am obviously gay.. Funny tho I told the gal that has cut my hair for years not long ago and she changed instantly, she said she would have never guessed..My sexuallity does not define me.. It’s my f@.......#ked up childhood that has been my greatest challenge to overcome.. All in all I can count my many blessings and am thankful for loving people in my life..The spath thing really set me on a course of change deep with in myself, guess that needed to happen.. Onestep you werent here when I first started blogging, there was not much I did not say that was acceptable for a blogsite..I have backed off cause most have heard it all before..but occasionally I just have to send out my feeings and I did release some pent up ‘stuff’ and feel lighter because of it..I do need to get involved in some sort of comunity thing, not necessarily gay oriented..you are right about what you have said Onestep – somethings got to give and soon.
yes, your indian status….could you do interior design?
truck driving is really hard on the back…although the wieners could travel with you.
ya know, doesn’t matter who has heard it hens, but that you hear it when you need to.
xx one step