Editor’s Note: Lovefraud received the following article from the reader in Australia who posts as “Dani S.”
I recently had the unfortunate experience of coming across another personality disorder, this time on Facebook. I love Facebook, as growing up in a small country town and moving to the city, Facebook has been a great place for me to reconnect with old school friends and to chat with them online.
I have always been very careful never to add friend request unless I know the person personally, so I thought that I was safe! Wrong!
I joined a group called “Dead Beat Dads.” The group had over 300 members, ranging from mothers, stepfathers and children of fathers that have experienced or are experiencing the frustration of fathers abandoning their financial and emotional responsibility to their children.
Antagonist
I initially enjoyed the connection and the chats between members, but it was not long before a guy came into the group who antagonised the members. If a member posted something, he would pounce back. “Well you shouldn’t have deliberately got yourself pregnant. It is your fault and to then ask for him to pay is disgusting.” Frequently he told members they were liars.
He put up post after post, sometimes 20 a day. He loved posting statistics of suicide rates of children who live without a father and made the comment frequently that “False claims of abuse is abuse,”
He completely dominated any comment made by any members, and members found his tone and comments very offensive. He claimed that he had no children and lived with his wife of 10 years who had kids to another man. He said he was happy his wife never asked for money from her ex, and said that the ex saw the kids all the time.
Aliases
I watch his posts for a while and noticed that his story varied, if not changed completely. He said to members that we needed to show him DNA proof before we could call anyone a Dead Beat!
He seemed to spend 24 hours a day watching and posting on this group, and it didn’t take me too long to realise this person had some real issues. When he made a comment, his “men’s group” would quickly jump to his defence.
I did a bit of research on the members of his men’s group and realised that all eight of their Facebook profiles had no information, two had the same picture as one another, and six of them had no friends at all.
I suggested to him that I believed his “men’s group” was a group of made up people with only him as the member. I said, “It is funny, when you post something, minutes later all these men fly to your defence and six of them have not obtained one friend but go straight to the Dead Beat Dads site.”
Stalking
He was furious with my comments, called me a liar and said I should learn to close my legs and I should be responsible for my child on my own, or I should let the father see the child. I told him my child’s father abandoned her and stated he never wanted to see her again. The guy said, “Well if you weren’t such a C#*T, he would have wanted to see the child.”
Then it all started! Some of friends off my Facebook friends list got emails from him saying I was a prostitute and fathers have rights and I should go to jail. He emailed my partner six times from four of his aliases, saying I am a prostitute, he had me last night when I was working down the road, and she said she is leaving you for me because you have a small penis. Another said, “I bet you can taste me in her!” I One that made us laugh said, “She is leaving you for me and taking your Camero and Trans Am.” Being Australian, we don’t even have those cars here. The worst was he emailed my daughter and said your mum is a whore and you need to go to the police to inform them.
I now know that I was not protecting myself well enough on Facebook, as everyone on the outside world could see who I was in a relationship with, and the link to my children. I also had my place of work on there, and when I looked at his profile, he had my place of work listed in his likes and interests.
Even though this person claimed to be in Canada and I am in Australia, I was a little unnerved about the situation. But I was angry that, because he didn’t like my comment, he decided that to silence me, he would, stalk, harass and slander me. He also said on the group that he would copy my picture and start a profile of me and write stupid comments on the group. I said, “Well that will look funny, me arguing with myself, and you have just written what you are going to do.”
Confrontation
I got back onto the Dead Beat Dads site and posted to the guy, “Why do you have my place of work listed on your profile? And why have you stalked me, emailed my friends and family? I believe you have a personality disorder.”
He said I was lying and another member said to the guy, “I have just looked at your profile and her place of work is there, so it is obvious there is only one liar amongst us.”
After that post, four women from the site emailed me, saying the same thing had happened to them. The group’s admin contacted me also. I decided to not fear this person, and to backspath him, as EB would say.
I posted next, “It does not take a psychology degree to realise this guy has a serious personality disorder. His obsession with this site is beyond normal, and stalking members is just plain psychopathic! I believe you have lost your children due to abuse, as you keep quoting, ”˜False claims of abuse is abuse.’
“You get angry at women that move interstate, and you claim to know family and criminal law. I believe what you know about family law is what you have learnt trying to see your kids. If you had studied law for 15 years as you claim, you would have a career in law, not as a self-employed MC. You talk to us women on here like you are talking to your ex, and I believe you stalk members because in your mind, you are stalking your ex, as you have lost control of your children and your ex, and they probably have to move interstate all the time to be safe from you! You say you know about criminal law and stalking laws. Is that because you have been in so much trouble for your behaviour?
Another member jumped in, saying she believed he was an absolute Spath when he said that (we) need to show (you) DNA testing and that is very egocentric and grandiose! The group member thanked me for standing up for myself and the other members as he had been a disturbing menace for a couple of months.
Lock down
Then the next day when I went on to look at the group it was gone! He said it was his and his men’s group job to shut down every Dead Beat Dads group on the Internet.
Strangely now, I saw him, I heard him and I knew him. I knew the language, I knew the threats and I knew the bullying! I saw the red flag almost immediately. But this time I didn’t cower. I may have been wrong making such a big statement to him, but I will never be controlled by anyone ever again, or have anyone try to put fear into me again. I just hope I have heard the last of him.
I have now locked down my Facebook profile so no information is visible for the world to see. I also now will not up my photo on my profile, as he made me realise how easy it is to steal identities. I maybe still a little naïve, but I am getting there!
The group leader’s Facebook profile is no longer available and the group is gone. I just pray she didn’t also fall victim to this harassment and cyberbullying as well. He laughed that he was untouchable.
Dani S
Hi Bullet & Buttons missed you all. I have been bit spathout lately and don’t know if I was more annoyed about the moron or that I missed some really good article’s on LF!
I forgot to also mention that he was going to contact Children’s Welfare Dept in Australia to get my children taken off me as he said” Being on the Internet you are neglecting your children and neglect is abuse”! I said ” well if every parent had there children removed because they used the internet, not too many children would be with there parents”!
I am still shocked but can you imagine what that guy is like in the real world? Glad I only came across him on the internet. Scary Scary guy!
All the women he had harassed were too scared to post comments after his little game but I said blow you, a spath hates to be outed so I gave it back to him.
Cat- I changed my name on FB but I confused all my friends. You can normally change your name without a problem unless you choose a creative name and the system will then take time to approve the name change. I have changed it back to my real name as I am sure he is onto some else by now. I looked again at his profile and he has joined another DBD site! God help them!
I reported him over and over and I know a lot of other people did, so I don’t think the Facebook Administrators are too bothered about it all, which is a worry. But at the end of the day the guy can just keep coming up with new profile’s if he get suspended.
I couldn’t believe the time he takes out of his life to menace people and what really made me angry was the Dead Beat Dad’s group are set up for victims and I am sure the majority of them are actually victims of spath’s and are venerable. He carelessly took advantage of these people with his cruelty.
Well I have learnt a valuable lesson and the only group I will stay in on Face Book is the one I feel the safest in, Love Fraud!
<3 2 all!
Hi just catching up on LF to see how everyone has been getting on. I’ve been on my hols and am having a great time day to day sightseeing and all that jazz.
However – the other side of staying safe on FB and other social networking sites is finding the strength not to look up information on the N S or P after the relationship has gone NC.
This is the last thing I struggle with. It’s sooo easy to look up ones exes and their new partners these days.
ExN leaves most of his information public – as FB is essential to his ‘prince of lies PR campaign’ and he hooks many targets this way.
My profile is set to private, any anyway I never post much information on FB as I’m not into creating a ‘fake profile’. Anyone who needs to know what I’m about can find out from me in ‘real life’.
Previously I’ve been advised to ‘block him’ – which I know would work, but still can’t bring myself to do it as it makes me feel safer to be able to keep a weather eye on my exN from time to time. Make sure he’s not moved near to me and that kind of stuff (he was talking about moving to my area a while back – creep).
I never stay on his FB for longer than 2/3 minutes – but even that little trip to N land always makes me feel a bit wierd and like I’m the weak one. It’s the feeling of ‘hypervigilence’ that I dislike – I need to be sure that he’s not co-opting any of my friends or having access to me at all that way.
ExN has learned to fear and hate me – ‘cos I took his ass to the mat legally (he got convicted for fraud) and because he blames me for his last target leaving him (which I was instrumental in as I ‘outed him’ to her’).
Any thoughts for dealing with the hypervigilence that comes in the aftermath of an S N or P?
Actually – gosh darn it. After reading this post back to myself i’ve decided I’m going to straight to FB and block that a**clown! 1 minutes worry – a lifetime of emotional freedom………………..xx
DID IT – OMG that felt good!!!!!!! I’m now off to have a bath with scented candles, & a session of ‘psychic cord cutting’. I have to reward myself with some strawberries and cream later too!
LOL – Blessings to everyone here! Speak again in a little while.
Delta1 x
Delta,-How about some Psychic dick-cutting? {Naughty!}.
You know, one inch at a time,– —— — — —!!!
Or Psychic ball- cutting?
We could use them as earrings!
MUCH more enjoyable than psychic cord cutting, I say!!
Gem.XX
{Feeling wicked tonight!}
LOL Delta Good for you!
Yes it was my fault the ex has now gone bankrupt! They always have to have someone to blame. The ex S was so hell bent on me not getting a cent when I left, he went broke in the process, mind you I was the only one that came into the relationship with money & possessions and I left in debt . He managed to save a few possessions by putting them in other people’s names, good for him hope his big truck& boat keeps him warm at night!
I don’t know how far in time you are removed from your N but I only really started feeling myself after about 2 years removed.
I looked all the time too but I ended up getting bored and I don’t know what happened just one day I realised I had not checked for weeks 🙂
Or you could just run with Gems advice…oucchhhhh!!!! LOL
Gems & Dani S
Tee Hee – your comments made me ‘av a little giggle’ – I keep trying to be all ‘spiritual’ and somewhat serious about my journey, but Gems comments made me snort into my strawberries & cream and reminded me of the ‘pure power of cheek’ if you can laugh at the devil he does tend to shrivel up pretty quick. !
Fanx all!
Optimism and a sense of humour will take you far! I’m off the strawberries & cream, being an emotional eater I think I have put on 8 pounds in the past 3 weeks!Dam it LOL 😉
Gem!!!!! you used to be such a nice lady!! lol
I would add a spot of psychic beheading followed by a cup of tea and a marshmallow….I could use it as a football!!
Delta1
..I am just about to cord cut too!!1 it’s so great to hear someone is doing it too!! I am using the Rose Rosetree angle…have read that great book of hers that shows you everything you need to know to do it properly..(big book- operates on all levels as you go through it, like an activation process, not linear) and I have to get through another 4 steps out of 12…then I will have the method mastered!!!it is soooo interesting, cannot wait to start…have been studying this book for about a month now….takes ages to click into place…it shows you how to bypass the unconscious mind and go to source…(Etheric realm)
I know it’s very new age and not for everyone…but We have weddings, funerals,baptisms etc and I need a ritual to cut that psychic toxic attachment once and for all time…….it does not remove spiritual connection….it removes the 24/7 negativity that has attached to the aura and will be there until you decide to cut it off!!! cord cutting is a form of energy spirituality
Hi Dani S -glad you are around, it’s good that you were not bullied into submission by that total CREEP, and I think you are right to leave your name as is…he will have moved on..they can’t attach to someone who is mentally stronger and I guess that is the gift we get at the end of all this…the ability to stare down a spath and send the message….you will not be messing with me mate…he certainly tried hard…he will cause terrible fear for someone not as knowledgable..I hope he is stopped…there are more and more sites about cyberbullies and ‘cyberpaths’ so the word is getting around..
Silly Season cont….
OMG – I was just idling away some time. I did a ‘one card’ tarot reading for myself ‘in real life:. it came up: “Queen of Wands” card.
Then I did an ‘on-line tarot reading on FB’. Spoooooookyily also came up “Queen of Wands”. I am so not kidding. This is a strange co-incidence. And no I’m not pushing Tarot reading/Psychic stuff. I actually tend to do Tarot readings as a ‘party trick’ to show how easy ‘cold-reading’ is and put people off putting too much credence in other peoples ‘psychic powers’ as Charlatans and Socios do abound in that world among some very genuine hearted people. All the same though. Coincidence or what!
The Queen of Wands card denotes:
“An intelligent and savvy woman in business who commands loyalty and intelligence in those around her. A woman who will not be fooled. Female enterprise. Confident and generous woman. Sensual and passionate female energy. Lover of life and those willing to explore it with her. A feminine leader able to lead the masses. A woman able to see big picture and delegate accordingly.”
Oh well – who am I to argue. Clearly I’m fabulous (LOL!).
Anyway – I will share my ‘queenly energy’ (irony alert!) with all the other LF bloggers male and female who need a boost.
Giggles
Delta1