Editor’s Note: Lovefraud received the following article from the reader in Australia who posts as “Dani S.”
I recently had the unfortunate experience of coming across another personality disorder, this time on Facebook. I love Facebook, as growing up in a small country town and moving to the city, Facebook has been a great place for me to reconnect with old school friends and to chat with them online.
I have always been very careful never to add friend request unless I know the person personally, so I thought that I was safe! Wrong!
I joined a group called “Dead Beat Dads.” The group had over 300 members, ranging from mothers, stepfathers and children of fathers that have experienced or are experiencing the frustration of fathers abandoning their financial and emotional responsibility to their children.
Antagonist
I initially enjoyed the connection and the chats between members, but it was not long before a guy came into the group who antagonised the members. If a member posted something, he would pounce back. “Well you shouldn’t have deliberately got yourself pregnant. It is your fault and to then ask for him to pay is disgusting.” Frequently he told members they were liars.
He put up post after post, sometimes 20 a day. He loved posting statistics of suicide rates of children who live without a father and made the comment frequently that “False claims of abuse is abuse,”
He completely dominated any comment made by any members, and members found his tone and comments very offensive. He claimed that he had no children and lived with his wife of 10 years who had kids to another man. He said he was happy his wife never asked for money from her ex, and said that the ex saw the kids all the time.
Aliases
I watch his posts for a while and noticed that his story varied, if not changed completely. He said to members that we needed to show him DNA proof before we could call anyone a Dead Beat!
He seemed to spend 24 hours a day watching and posting on this group, and it didn’t take me too long to realise this person had some real issues. When he made a comment, his “men’s group” would quickly jump to his defence.
I did a bit of research on the members of his men’s group and realised that all eight of their Facebook profiles had no information, two had the same picture as one another, and six of them had no friends at all.
I suggested to him that I believed his “men’s group” was a group of made up people with only him as the member. I said, “It is funny, when you post something, minutes later all these men fly to your defence and six of them have not obtained one friend but go straight to the Dead Beat Dads site.”
Stalking
He was furious with my comments, called me a liar and said I should learn to close my legs and I should be responsible for my child on my own, or I should let the father see the child. I told him my child’s father abandoned her and stated he never wanted to see her again. The guy said, “Well if you weren’t such a C#*T, he would have wanted to see the child.”
Then it all started! Some of friends off my Facebook friends list got emails from him saying I was a prostitute and fathers have rights and I should go to jail. He emailed my partner six times from four of his aliases, saying I am a prostitute, he had me last night when I was working down the road, and she said she is leaving you for me because you have a small penis. Another said, “I bet you can taste me in her!” I One that made us laugh said, “She is leaving you for me and taking your Camero and Trans Am.” Being Australian, we don’t even have those cars here. The worst was he emailed my daughter and said your mum is a whore and you need to go to the police to inform them.
I now know that I was not protecting myself well enough on Facebook, as everyone on the outside world could see who I was in a relationship with, and the link to my children. I also had my place of work on there, and when I looked at his profile, he had my place of work listed in his likes and interests.
Even though this person claimed to be in Canada and I am in Australia, I was a little unnerved about the situation. But I was angry that, because he didn’t like my comment, he decided that to silence me, he would, stalk, harass and slander me. He also said on the group that he would copy my picture and start a profile of me and write stupid comments on the group. I said, “Well that will look funny, me arguing with myself, and you have just written what you are going to do.”
Confrontation
I got back onto the Dead Beat Dads site and posted to the guy, “Why do you have my place of work listed on your profile? And why have you stalked me, emailed my friends and family? I believe you have a personality disorder.”
He said I was lying and another member said to the guy, “I have just looked at your profile and her place of work is there, so it is obvious there is only one liar amongst us.”
After that post, four women from the site emailed me, saying the same thing had happened to them. The group’s admin contacted me also. I decided to not fear this person, and to backspath him, as EB would say.
I posted next, “It does not take a psychology degree to realise this guy has a serious personality disorder. His obsession with this site is beyond normal, and stalking members is just plain psychopathic! I believe you have lost your children due to abuse, as you keep quoting, ”˜False claims of abuse is abuse.’
“You get angry at women that move interstate, and you claim to know family and criminal law. I believe what you know about family law is what you have learnt trying to see your kids. If you had studied law for 15 years as you claim, you would have a career in law, not as a self-employed MC. You talk to us women on here like you are talking to your ex, and I believe you stalk members because in your mind, you are stalking your ex, as you have lost control of your children and your ex, and they probably have to move interstate all the time to be safe from you! You say you know about criminal law and stalking laws. Is that because you have been in so much trouble for your behaviour?
Another member jumped in, saying she believed he was an absolute Spath when he said that (we) need to show (you) DNA testing and that is very egocentric and grandiose! The group member thanked me for standing up for myself and the other members as he had been a disturbing menace for a couple of months.
Lock down
Then the next day when I went on to look at the group it was gone! He said it was his and his men’s group job to shut down every Dead Beat Dads group on the Internet.
Strangely now, I saw him, I heard him and I knew him. I knew the language, I knew the threats and I knew the bullying! I saw the red flag almost immediately. But this time I didn’t cower. I may have been wrong making such a big statement to him, but I will never be controlled by anyone ever again, or have anyone try to put fear into me again. I just hope I have heard the last of him.
I have now locked down my Facebook profile so no information is visible for the world to see. I also now will not up my photo on my profile, as he made me realise how easy it is to steal identities. I maybe still a little naïve, but I am getting there!
The group leader’s Facebook profile is no longer available and the group is gone. I just pray she didn’t also fall victim to this harassment and cyberbullying as well. He laughed that he was untouchable.
Dani S
No Delta1…that card denotes meeting ME!!! clearly that describes me to a tee…sensual and passionate, confident and generous…that’s me…how spoooky! (just being silly)
I think tarot cards are a bit tedious, I prefer the direct link…channell and be done with it…so let me just channell some information about you…see if I’m right…ok…Delta1….come in delta1…
the channell told me get outside a bit more and stop trying to impress peeps……that I am eating too much and slobbishly hangin out too much with the computer…and to leave you alone!!
How embarrassing!
Excellent stuff Bulletproof – hey lets all be ‘Kings and Queens’ for the day. A royal feast and party for all!! LOL. I’m guessing you are one of the ‘genuine ones’ not a charlatan!
Any way this queen says: “Off with his head” – the ex N S or P in your life of course!
Okay – enough with the Alice in Wonderland stuff from me. I’m going out to join the real world.
Blessings
Delta 1
Me too ….got to connect with the real world….but before I go..
“off with his head!!!”
I’m a charlatan to the extent I fell for a P…makes me a bit suspicious of what I attract…I’m deffinitely worried about the energy I put out there and what comes towards it….it makes me want to stay inside and just be safe.
You need to pull the death card out next Delta! Then you will be free! 🙂
Cyberpath’s LMAO! I love that Bullet, how always very cleaver of you! 🙂
Bullet, I just used your Cyberpath on the Fb LF Get out and enjoy life you maybe surprised that you just don’t attract them anymore and can see straight through them now! Here hoping anyway and that goes for me too 😉
one-step and Sageegirl,
Thanks for the tips! I’ll do that today and I also hid all personal info already. I know that FB is a big social machine, but I use it because my children are all over the US and it’s a great way to connect with them and share with them daily and just because the Cyberspath (I LOVE this!) is there shouldn’t dictate, once again, what I do. And I do enjoy my interaction with family and friends on there as well. I feel that if I went off FB, then it would be like the ex spath DICKtating, once again, who I communicate with.
That’s an enlightening article but not very surprising to me. I love my facebook. I use it to keep in contact with high school friends and prior coworkers who live out of state. I also have met some cool people that I have never met but have the same politics/views as I do. I am in some groups that involve my career and fan sites for sports teams,books,movies, TV. I also do groups that are local interest for New Orleanians.
I did have a somewhat strange experience. I was talking to two of my former coworkers who still work with my spath and they were talking to me about the relationship and their views as well as the lies he told. One of the gals goes to France a lot and has a lot of friends in Europe. After I finished IMing with them, I got a friend request from a man who seemed suspicious and was obviously foreign. I looked him up and he was listed as a friend of one of the gals I was talking to. He was obviously keeping track of the conversation relating to the spath and the relationship and started coming on strong about wanting to be friends. I ignored him and blocked him because it felt very wrong to me.
Facebook can be great but we all need to be careful. I just got yet another email from eharmony trying to get me on their site. Someone must have sold my email address because match.com is contacting me too. I have BAD freakin vibes about any type of online dating and I won’t go near it!!
Another reason to stay of FB
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Dani, my frank opinion is that ANY interaction is POSITIVE to these personality disorders. You CANNOT win in a back and forth dialogue, even if you think you have. I can guarantee that no matter what the results, even sitting in a jail cell, they are convinced they won and got what they wanted.
SHAME on the person running the site for not simply blocking this person when they began dominating! No contact, no contact, no contact. It is the ONLY way to really win.
That is not to take away from what you did, and it was probably healing for you and others….but I would leave any site that was allowing that sort of thing and block the site too, as well as the abuser.
Neveragain, I agree! we all know here you never win and especially in there minds we will never…
I was so annoyed that this person was trying to take away my rights and that is why I gave it back to him. I was letting him know that he can’t scare me off nor does he have the right to do so.
The group Leader originally blocked him but he kept coming back in the group with other face book profile’s. She emailed me saying she was upset that the group had over 300 member’s and was a great positive group except for the cyberspath. I do believe the group leader knew she could not stop this menace and then shut the site down. He did say “there is no block I cant get through, no group I can’t get into, I am untouchable LOL”