Editor’s Note: Lovefraud received the following article from the reader in Australia who posts as “Dani S.”
I recently had the unfortunate experience of coming across another personality disorder, this time on Facebook. I love Facebook, as growing up in a small country town and moving to the city, Facebook has been a great place for me to reconnect with old school friends and to chat with them online.
I have always been very careful never to add friend request unless I know the person personally, so I thought that I was safe! Wrong!
I joined a group called “Dead Beat Dads.” The group had over 300 members, ranging from mothers, stepfathers and children of fathers that have experienced or are experiencing the frustration of fathers abandoning their financial and emotional responsibility to their children.
Antagonist
I initially enjoyed the connection and the chats between members, but it was not long before a guy came into the group who antagonised the members. If a member posted something, he would pounce back. “Well you shouldn’t have deliberately got yourself pregnant. It is your fault and to then ask for him to pay is disgusting.” Frequently he told members they were liars.
He put up post after post, sometimes 20 a day. He loved posting statistics of suicide rates of children who live without a father and made the comment frequently that “False claims of abuse is abuse,”
He completely dominated any comment made by any members, and members found his tone and comments very offensive. He claimed that he had no children and lived with his wife of 10 years who had kids to another man. He said he was happy his wife never asked for money from her ex, and said that the ex saw the kids all the time.
Aliases
I watch his posts for a while and noticed that his story varied, if not changed completely. He said to members that we needed to show him DNA proof before we could call anyone a Dead Beat!
He seemed to spend 24 hours a day watching and posting on this group, and it didn’t take me too long to realise this person had some real issues. When he made a comment, his “men’s group” would quickly jump to his defence.
I did a bit of research on the members of his men’s group and realised that all eight of their Facebook profiles had no information, two had the same picture as one another, and six of them had no friends at all.
I suggested to him that I believed his “men’s group” was a group of made up people with only him as the member. I said, “It is funny, when you post something, minutes later all these men fly to your defence and six of them have not obtained one friend but go straight to the Dead Beat Dads site.”
Stalking
He was furious with my comments, called me a liar and said I should learn to close my legs and I should be responsible for my child on my own, or I should let the father see the child. I told him my child’s father abandoned her and stated he never wanted to see her again. The guy said, “Well if you weren’t such a C#*T, he would have wanted to see the child.”
Then it all started! Some of friends off my Facebook friends list got emails from him saying I was a prostitute and fathers have rights and I should go to jail. He emailed my partner six times from four of his aliases, saying I am a prostitute, he had me last night when I was working down the road, and she said she is leaving you for me because you have a small penis. Another said, “I bet you can taste me in her!” I One that made us laugh said, “She is leaving you for me and taking your Camero and Trans Am.” Being Australian, we don’t even have those cars here. The worst was he emailed my daughter and said your mum is a whore and you need to go to the police to inform them.
I now know that I was not protecting myself well enough on Facebook, as everyone on the outside world could see who I was in a relationship with, and the link to my children. I also had my place of work on there, and when I looked at his profile, he had my place of work listed in his likes and interests.
Even though this person claimed to be in Canada and I am in Australia, I was a little unnerved about the situation. But I was angry that, because he didn’t like my comment, he decided that to silence me, he would, stalk, harass and slander me. He also said on the group that he would copy my picture and start a profile of me and write stupid comments on the group. I said, “Well that will look funny, me arguing with myself, and you have just written what you are going to do.”
Confrontation
I got back onto the Dead Beat Dads site and posted to the guy, “Why do you have my place of work listed on your profile? And why have you stalked me, emailed my friends and family? I believe you have a personality disorder.”
He said I was lying and another member said to the guy, “I have just looked at your profile and her place of work is there, so it is obvious there is only one liar amongst us.”
After that post, four women from the site emailed me, saying the same thing had happened to them. The group’s admin contacted me also. I decided to not fear this person, and to backspath him, as EB would say.
I posted next, “It does not take a psychology degree to realise this guy has a serious personality disorder. His obsession with this site is beyond normal, and stalking members is just plain psychopathic! I believe you have lost your children due to abuse, as you keep quoting, ”˜False claims of abuse is abuse.’
“You get angry at women that move interstate, and you claim to know family and criminal law. I believe what you know about family law is what you have learnt trying to see your kids. If you had studied law for 15 years as you claim, you would have a career in law, not as a self-employed MC. You talk to us women on here like you are talking to your ex, and I believe you stalk members because in your mind, you are stalking your ex, as you have lost control of your children and your ex, and they probably have to move interstate all the time to be safe from you! You say you know about criminal law and stalking laws. Is that because you have been in so much trouble for your behaviour?
Another member jumped in, saying she believed he was an absolute Spath when he said that (we) need to show (you) DNA testing and that is very egocentric and grandiose! The group member thanked me for standing up for myself and the other members as he had been a disturbing menace for a couple of months.
Lock down
Then the next day when I went on to look at the group it was gone! He said it was his and his men’s group job to shut down every Dead Beat Dads group on the Internet.
Strangely now, I saw him, I heard him and I knew him. I knew the language, I knew the threats and I knew the bullying! I saw the red flag almost immediately. But this time I didn’t cower. I may have been wrong making such a big statement to him, but I will never be controlled by anyone ever again, or have anyone try to put fear into me again. I just hope I have heard the last of him.
I have now locked down my Facebook profile so no information is visible for the world to see. I also now will not up my photo on my profile, as he made me realise how easy it is to steal identities. I maybe still a little naïve, but I am getting there!
The group leader’s Facebook profile is no longer available and the group is gone. I just pray she didn’t also fall victim to this harassment and cyberbullying as well. He laughed that he was untouchable.
Dani S
dani – lots of them folks on fb…a couple of them show up here occasionally – i have checked out a couple of people who seem particularly misogynist/ disordered, and they are happily wreaking havoc on fb, calling out women in whatever fashion they please.
my personal experience with fb is about privacy – i sent a message through fb to a friend and asked for a second friend contact info. he sent it to me via facebook. the next day, the second friends name showed up in yahoo chat, in the email account connected to fb. these peeps share INFO IN PRIVATE MESSAGES. That’s when i shut down my account and went stealth.
One step, One of my friends also had a friend request a couple of days ago from someone he didn’t know. He rang me and said maybe it was the cyberspath. It is so easy for them to friend request friends in the hope to get to your info as a lot of account are set as friends of friends to see info. I now have friends only on my account, before hand I didn’t realised how exposed I was and it was really stupid as having a violent ex spath out there he could find me if he was cleaver enough.
Some people just add anyone like Buttons said. my niece & step daughter have over 600 friends. How could anyone know 600 + people personally!
dani,
young peole live in a different cyberworld. or rahter, they live in a cyber world.
one of the problems with fb itself is that they are not transparent about what they do; and they keep changing their settings. so if you were well hidden, when they changed the settings you are exposed if you don’t go in and deal with the new settings – which default to ‘open.’
i am really glad your freinds are paying attention and are ‘on’ this guy. I was spathed, to a great extent, online. my ass**** psath created more than 20 characters for my con – at times they fought with one another…so i know the world of ‘sock puppets’ well. it’s what the spath does. and she does it over and over again. i never had contact with her via fb, but i relaized (when i knew who and what she was) that she was probably following me on fb at one point.
i have googled myself ad naseum and asked google to remove cached pages after i have deleted info/ had info deleted from the internet. now, i manage my online presence. i have a proxy server if i want to browse anonymously; i have a few email addresses, that would be hard to trace back to me (in combo with the proxy server) – i have made myself as safe as I know how – well, actually i learned all this since november of last year. makes me sound like a lunatic in ‘polite company’ – but not here.
thank god for ‘here’.
LOL One Step, yes thank god for here! Here has educated me almost as much as the spath did.. I am much more aware these days about so many things, I don’t even recognise the little kid from the bush who’s biggest problems in life where oiling saddles for up and coming riding events and learning which fence was a fence and which ones were electric fences!
I was saying to my son the other day, when we were kids if we liked a song, we would have to go to town to the record store and order the record that used to take up to a week if it wasn’t in store.Now days if they want a song they get on the net, go to ITunes click and presto all in minutes..
The Internet has given us the world at hour finger tips, no more writing letters on the thin air mail pages to send to my friend in the states, which I had to eagerly wait about 3 months for his reply. Now I log on and my American friend that I met when I was 8 is right there on chat. These things I love about the Internet but I don’t know weather it is all good and sometimes miss the days of simplicity. 🙂
i miss the simplicity too. and i have to work to get some of it back.
Dani S, I miss it, too. I also miss the human interaction that has been replaced via technology. Yes, there’s a “good” side to technology, but I feel that the “negatives” far outweigh the benefits, especially where kids are concerned. They begin, cultivate, and end relationships using text messaging and the internet.
And Buttons, not only ending relationships! I don’t know if your culture is different from mine, but I remember when I was younger people just dropped in! no one drops in anymore and if they do you, you wonder who the hell is knocking on your door other than a salesman! How fast we have changed x
Dear Dani,
They still drop in here in the country—at least the neighbors and distant relatives that live close. Or sometimes people who don’t really know me personally will drive by if they want to talk to me about something and introduce themselves….but now I am more cautious about people I don’t know now, but that’s okay too…I keep the gun in my hand behind the door so they can’t see it unless they NEED TO SEE IT. LOL
LMAO oxy I am picturing that! Unfortunately Australia has been disarmed! Thanks to Martin Bryant! That is a fascinating & one of Australias most Tragic story in its self which you have probably read about. I do carry my ex spath Asp which is an illegal weapon here but has his name all over it if he ever comes near me again! 😉
Oxy and Dani, I don’t open my door for any stranger under any circumstances. Even guys who have a badge and show it to me saying they are working in the areas and my house is the next on their list. I tell them “sorry, no one from your office contacted me that you were coming over”. They then tell me a notice was sent in the mail. Sorry. I don’t read junk mail … it automatically gets tossed. They look perplex but I don’t care. I only open my door for folks I know. I don’t even let police officers in. If I called the police, I step outside my home and talk with them. If they knock on my door because they are investigating folks in the area … same thing, I step outside to talk with them.