UPDATED FOR 2024. Editor’s note: Lovefraud received the following from a reader who we’ll refer to as “Tanya” about her experience of trying to expose the sociopath.
I was 35 when I met my sociopath — we’ll call him Dave. I was in a top twenty graduate business program — a magnet for narcissists and sociopaths, by the way! A culture that so prizes appearances, financial accumulation, and power must seem irresistible to people with those disorders.
Dave seemed so great at first — attentive, interesting, intelligent, open, honest, fun. My friends warned that he was too flirty — but I only took that as a sign that he was desirable and, hey, I won him over when others had failed.
We were off and on for a few months — the usual drama of dating a pure sociopath took its toll right away. He did very scary things early on, like drink and drive, show up at my door in the middle of the night, call a dozen times a night, etc. etc. In the alcoholic daze that is your typical business school culture, his behavior didn’t stand out as much as it might in real life — but it really should have at the time.
He’s engaged
Finally we broke it off completely. Then one night I got a call from him — he was in Brazil on holiday (he lived there for a few years before coming to Business School) and he was calling to tell me that he was engaged to a girl he’d met there. He put her on the phone so that she could be reassured that he was no longer involved with me. I thought it was crazy, but in my own attempts to CONTROL the crazy (always the first mistake), I took it upon myself to tell his friends at school about the call. I framed it like “Congratulate Dave! He tells me he’s engaged!” He was furious with me when he came back and his friends no doubt thought I was insane.
Later, his “fiance” called me a few times trying to find him. I “googled” her name on my computer — again in an attempt to control the crazy— and found that he had been emailing her from my computer during the time we were dating. Then I found emails he had sent to a sex tourism site called Club Hombre. Over the previous two or three years, he had posted HUNDREDS of emails to this site, explaining his sexual exploits with prostitutes all over the world. His “fiance” was a prostitute. On the boards, he talked a lot about having unprotected sex with prostitutes in Rio and Turkey (both high HIV areas).
I reported what happened
I was so petrified. I went to the school clinic and explained my situation. The nurse told me that I had a one in thirty two chance of having HIV and I had to wait a week for test results to come back (thankfully, negative). During that week I went to my school counselor (a 27 year old kid new on the job) and tried to explain my situation. I brought in print-outs of the postings Dave had made to the sex site, and a note from the clinic explaining the risks he had exposed me to. I wanted to somehow get this guy on record before he put other women in our school at risk, even if it meant humiliating myself. The counselor was skeptical. He asked me if I wanted to file a restraining order and I said “no.” I thought that would only make things worse.
As per procedure, he had to bring Dave in as well. When he asked Dave if HE wanted to file a restraining order, Dave said “yes!” So, as a reward for my efforts to work within the system, I got a restraining order filed against ME for harassing DAVE. One of the worst days of my life.
Can’t control the crazy
That was three years ago, and I still definitely bear the scars of the experience. I try to put the details out of my mind and, even as I read this, I can’t believe it happened.
I do my best to not fault myself for getting involved in the first place. As so many others on your site have said, I was behaving normally in an abnormal situation. What I DO fault myself for is trying to CONTROL the crazy. Every time I tried to control it and expose the sociopath, I only made things worse for myself. The true trauma wasn’t the stuff that happened between me and him, but the stuff that happened when I tried to expose him to others. It was so awful to see how easily sociopaths can bend the system to their will. Before then, I believed I lived in a just, fair world and that I could trust the system to protect me when I needed it. After Dave, I know now that I have to protect MYSELF.
When I’m philosophical about it, I just think that it’s only human to want to believe that we live in an ordered, just world. We want to believe it so much that we ignore the disorder and unfairness RIGHT IN FRONT OF US, and this blind spot is where the sociopath functions. I’m so thankful that I emerged with much less damage than some others. I only wish that there was a way to constructively deal with this — to raise awareness about sociopathy in the same way that people raise awareness about cancer or drug abuse.
Thank you again for your site — it was cathartic to share my story.
Learn more: How to report your abuser’s crimes so the police take you seriously
Lovefraud originally posted this story on Dec. 16, 2009.
witsend:
Suspect the friend will send him packing after a month or two and you (lucky you) will have him back in your hair until his next takeoff.
Rosa:
Or Jeep Wagner. Or is that Jeep Wagoneer?
Matt,
That has certainly crossed my mind.
Matt:
And, Robert Wagner was the actor on “Hart to Hart” in the 90’s….so I think that about covers the Wagners (and Wagoneers).
Glad I asked.
Matt:
it’s nice to know you have a ‘wagner’ singing puppy…..
Where’d you find him…..per Kathleen, I am seriously looking around the shelters too for a puppy that sings…..opera!
Maybe i’ll be lucky and find one that drives a jeep wagoneer also!
I have very low expectations…..
And I like……Erin Go Braugh…..
It has the hawaiian pigeon twang accent to it ……not getting the irish accent….but whatever you say…..I think a Sociopath would love it!
Matt, it sounds like, at very least you can have some fun with your brother….watching him scramble and be nice to ya……back him into that corner….and play wagner for him as punishment!
You might just find he is an authorized user on the account.
I ran a credit report on s ex’s grandmother after gramps passed…..Gram had asked me to sort out her finances….so started with the credit report to see what she had ‘out there’ …..there was lot’s of family that had ‘borrowed’ money and loans with huge interest rates with min. monthly payments that she could have paid for the rest of 10 persons lives….
The family was not so thrilled with me doing this….(she asked), but I never judged them because I was only looking out for grams best interest. There was NOTHING at stake for me….(it was s ex’s grandmother).
they basically ‘borrowed’ their inheritance.
I finally asked her…..grams, you have 700K in the bank….sitting….why are you paying monthly interest on CC’s and wierd loans? I paid them all off, and told her all she needed was one visa card to pay for RX’s over the phone.
she gladly agreed. Her ‘kids’ had so many CC’s and loans out there was NO WAY she could keep track of them all.
It was only when hubby died and she felt she needed to get ‘organized’ that she wanted to know her financial condition.
NO WONDER None of s ex’s family speaks to me…….I KNOW TOO MUCH!!!!
I’m going to wait a few ‘days’ to send the letter to the bitch….why the rush?
I really am shocked he’s not withdrawn from the case…..as he refused service of the extnsion hearing order back in July….and told my attorney he wanted ‘out from under this guy’…..
I think he’s bending over for someone else connected to the S. He took the case for a ‘favor’.
Poor guy….it was his first FL case…..what a case to get thrown out of the shoot with…..a client like the lying S.
I’d love to take him to lunch……
BTW….I didn’t go to the judge….I had some inside info and wanted the timing to be right for sending the letter….
He can take me back to court if he so pleases…..I don’t think a judge would have an issue with what I did…..and if so…..no worries there either.
IF he wants to pay his attorney to sue me for a $1500 dollars worth of items…..for the point…..have at it homey…..go braugh is ready to go!
WITS:
Hang in there girl……you already know the outcome here.
Take this time to recoup YOU…..and take a breather.
XXOO
EB
Off Topic but here goes. My youngest son (30) is sick and in some po hunk hospital of his wifes choice. Was diagnosed with pancreaitis and diabetes. He is overwieght, has poor eating habit’s and drinks too much beer. I called him and told him this was God talking to him and he had to change his life style. And to get out of that small town hospital and get to a specialist in OKC. He was out of it, so I talked to his wife with same concerns. Now they dont want me preaching to them and to back off they have it under control. Never have had a great relationship with his wife, but have always been polite. She is catholic and he did that conversion thing to marry her. She does not approve of my life style. She is a child pyhscologist. He also has a good job and good insurance, I just want the best for him. My son has a daughter from another girl (A) and she lives close and wants me to visit and such. But out of respect for my son and his wife I have not formed a close relationship with (A). But have decided that if I want to spend time with my grandaugther I will have to do it on my own, by getting involved with (A). I am pissed, worried and mad at him. I think his wife has influenced him, and not in my favor. On the other hand I have my older son and his wife that I adore and she adores me. And his wife includes me in everything concerning my grandsons, school, church functions etc. I guess I should of kept my mouth shut….
told him this is not Dad talking to you but GOD… just wanted to clarify that remark
Henry:
This is a toughie……
Your the rock in a hard place….here…..
We have learned….you can’t get people to do what YOU want them to do…..regardless of your intentions….
That wouldn’t stop me though from expressing my opinions…..for better healthcare etc….
It’s not like your telling him how to raise his children…..
Maybe just express your love and concern for him and give him names of great hospitals/Drs in his area that specialize in this condition.
And….offer to take the kids…..take a burden off her…play really, really nice….and she may warm up…..she’s gonna need support during this worrying time…..
Any chance to bond during this crisis?
So sorry for your worry hens…..I’d sure let you come take care of me daddy-O!
EB I could decorate your house and landscape your yard – what else do you need sugar? The son I am talking about has one daughter by another girl, his wife has no children, she is a great step mom to my granddaughter but makes no effort to include me, that is why I think I will get involved with the mother of my granddaughter. Do I make sense? Am I just to f – in sensitive?