While in the height of conflict with psychopaths or those with psychopathic features, sometimes, we scare people. I don’t mean Halloween “scary costume” scary. I don’t mean “things that go bump in the night” scary. No, I mean “take a look at yourself” scary. There are those around us who will see us go through what we do, and back away, simply because they realize that what we are experiencing or have experienced is just too strange and horrible to handle.
Maybe they don’t understand. Maybe they don’t know what to say to us, as this is a special type of trauma. Often, some of us give others a “pass” for those reasons. That is perfectly understandable. However, I believe that there are those who do know and understand, yet still choose to bury their heads.
Why are there those with such feelings of trepidation? If they become involved, even with only the minor facts of our stories, they may be forced to face the possibility that they could be in our positions at some point in time. It may be too unpleasant for them to imagine. No one is immune to these experiences and the thought of our plights becoming theirs may be overwhelming. Some may feel that is best to pretend as though this could not occur in their worlds.
How will we know?
We should not expect those around us to come out and express their fears. It is possible that they are not even consciously aware of their feelings, actions or responses. Nonetheless, if they are, in fact, afraid, it becomes clear before long, even though initially we may misinterpret that fear as something else.
What will they do?
They may pull away, be unwilling or unable to listen, or attempt to make light of our feelings on the matter. They may suggest that we are not feeling the feelings we say we are or that we need to “get over it” and move on, offering little support.
What should we do?
While moving forward is important, it is a gradual process and will come in time. If we encounter those who think this way, we should try our hardest not to internalize what they do or say, or in many cases, fail to say. This is very important because we should not take on any more unnecessary burden. It’s not healthy or helpful. We do not need to process their baggage in addition to that with which the sociopath has left us.
It may hurt at first because it is unpleasant and frustrating, but in the end, as with much of the rest of the issues that surround these experiences, their reactions may turn out to be a gift. As we grow and become whole again, we usually come to see the people who reacted in this manner very differently. We may no longer like what we see. We may come to see them as very “go along to get along,” and lose respect, because it is hard to respect those who stands for nothing. We may come to realize that these relationships were littered with conditions. The most important one being the demand for silence in our times of need.
As we recover
With recovery should also come some form of a rebirth, where we emerge better than we were before. As I have said before, we may sometimes need to leave our old methods of quantifying “better” behind. This may not materialize in the traditional sense. For example, if stripped financially, we may never be where we would have been under different circumstances. If faced to choose different career avenues, we may never achieve a level we once dreamed of. In truth, the scars the psychopaths may be very deep. However, that is not to say that once we do redefine, that we cannot find happiness and satisfaction. We can. Further, when we have little to lose, we may be willing to take some risks that go completely against our grains, but are sometimes necessary to excel. What this means is highly individual.
In the process, we may benefit greatly from purging ourselves of the negative relationships, that surprisingly are not just attached to the psychopaths or individuals with psychopathic features who are or were in our lives. We may need to take this action with those we “scare.” We can only control our actions, so we must act in ways that benefit our health and well being. With that, we will have energy for those who do matter.
In time, some may end up wishing they had handled things differently. Many won’t be phased either way. But maybe if they had, they would have learned a thing or two about their own strengths. However, they chose their safety nets of silence, demonstrating only their weaknesses.
I recently saw an inspirational quote that stated, “hard times reveal true friends.” That could not be more right on. Real friends do not scare easily, they walk with us through this time as best they can. Those who won’t, may not deserve to walk with us in our good times either. These experiences give us the opportunity to see the difference in a world where sometimes things get murky. Good luck out there!
lost everything,
You are “spot on” about the lost relationships with family and friends due to spath isolating partner!I am so ashamed of the way my husband behaved,and the way I was afraid to take a stand,not wanting to “rock the boat”.But I’m also very grateful for the friends and family that never gave up on me;although for awhile they saw it was best not to be close.
ImarriedIt,
Divorcing someone who never existed;from a marriage that wasn’t real,just isn’t like the divorces among “normal” relationships.They can look at the situation as “Well,we had some good times,made some good memories-but it’s not working with this person anymore!” They have NO IDEA what it is like to wake up one day and find out that despite YOUR BEST INTENTIONS,you have been defrauded of a mate,a home,possibly a sum of money….you have been living on Fantasy Island all this time and you were just rudely awakened by someone banging cymbals in your ears and bursting your dreams!
This is my time to vent.
I had been subpoenaed for a court hearing that was suppose to take place yesterday. The judge cancelled it yesterday morning and today found out it is rescheduled in a month. The ex-wife of my ex-spath-boyfriend is taking him to court so that their child can have supervised visits. He has a drinking problem and has driven drink many times and with his son. I have not been in the car at these times but I do know of his habitual drinking. Anyway, I had myself ready to face him but now I have to wait another month!
So, now my mind is turning over and over about the good, bad and ugly times we had together. How is it they can still affect us!!!
I want to live out the fantasy in my head again!! I’m having to remember what an evil, deceitful, etc…. person he is.
I have a wonderful family but they are extremely tired of hearing me talk about how I feel, what I think of him, what I have been through… They are past it and very thankful that I am no longer in a relationship with him. I am STILL trying to get past it!!! I broke up with him the week before Christmas. Had 4 full weeks of NC. But then broke it with an email…next came the occasional text….then the meet for a dinner….then went out a few times…. And then I found out he was “dating” someone. He said he had gone out with her but they were not serious. I happen to see a text and both were saying “I love you, baby”. I just wanted to throw up. Of course, now I know he was having a grand time conning both of us!!. I could have gotten her number and warned her but decided not to get in the middle of that.
I have not talked to him or seen him lately and was really nervous about the court hearing. I feel so foolish most of the time. And so back to the family, I think that sometime they are tired of me! (But I know that they really love me!)
My oldest son is graduating from college tomorrow and I really want to focus on him. I am so proud of how he is and what he is becoming. His dad (my wonderful husband) past away 3 years ago. My husband was the complete opposite of a spath. NOT KIDDING. He loved me with a true love and our family was so happy. This creep came shortly after he pasted and I was in a daze! You probably could write the rest of the story from here.
So needless to say, I have put my family through so much. I am just ready to slam this spath door once and for all and never reopen it again!!!
To Be Free,
I can imagine what a letdown it was not to be able to get this court hearing done and over with!I know the feeling of just wanting to “close the door” on spath,making him ‘history’,so you can get on with healing and the rest of your life!
You’re right,your family does love you,and because they just know that the spath was bad for you (and for them by extension)they really don’t want to talk about him anymore.They want to see you heal and get on with your life,as much as you do!But they feel helpless to know what to do or say….it’s just been difficult for everyone,ok?!So when with family,just be determined to have as good a time as possible!!!
Thank you…
I am thinking about going to therapy and really think it will help.
Not only am I dealing with all this, but I found out that the spot on the back of my 84 year old mother that was removed last week is definitely melanoma. My husband died of cancer and this has really thrown me. My father died last year.
I just have had too many life changing events that are really everyday occurrences that people have to deal with. BUT, I now am trying to heal from a terrible spath relationship!!!!
Hi, To Be,
Like you, I had lots of things happening in my life. My mom fell and 3 days afterward, out of the blue, went completely blind. The ensuing medical problems and emergencies over the next 7 years, several of which reached the crisis point, 18 surgeries, all compounded by her never being able to deal with the death of my father 5 years prior to her becoming disabled, were all mine to deal with, as her sole caregiver. I also had to take care of a house, something I had never done, as I always lived with my parents, despite being married for decades. And then there was the spath.
Like you, I knew these things that ‘happen’. I built well cemented walls around myself to ensure that I could always be there for my mother and try my best to deal with the spath’s, verbal, psychological, and physical abuse. Unfortunately these walls not only kept me in, they also kept real world out.
I never would have thought of contacting a therapist on my own, it was suggested by a paralegal from the ‘good’ law firm.
I was leery given my earlier experience with trying to find a law firm that would help me. How could I find a therapist that was willing to help; research on the internet and asking for recommendations from other professionals, ie medical, legal, that had experience with these therapists. I was very fortunate to find a psychologist where mutual chemistry existed.
Please be aware, seeing a therapist is not an elixir or any other kind of quick fix. It is a long term commitment for both parties. It requires complete honesty on your part and being able to open up, not gloss over, that doesn’t happen in one or two appointments. I have been seeing my psychologist for 3 1/2 years now and the walls are just starting to breech.
Also, therapy can hurt. You are going to find out things about yourself and your life that are not always nice (spath not included). It’s part of regaining yourself.
Therapy can be your lifesaver and best friend.
To Be Free,
I’m sorry to hear about your mom’s biopsy results.Take some deep breaths and be resolved to enjoy as much time with your mom as possible.I lost my mom when she was only 72 yrs old.
Therapy can really help as they let you talk about your feelings and find an outlet.It’s keeping them all pent up and becoming overwhelmed that makes us sick.We’re here for you too;so let us know when you need to just talk or vent! ((( Hugs )))
linda,thank you for this article…..it really hit home………:(
i used to have a really good friend who i knew for nearly 20 years……but when my life fell apart she was no where to be found…..not even a text to see if i was ok,or a call to support me…..all i would have wanted was some support or just to talk and tell me everything was going to be ok…….but nothing………i made contact with her last year and we met for coffee and talked……she told me that what was happening in my life was just too dark for her…..she couldnt cope with it as she didnt want to be dragged down by it………….i was really disappointed…….and let down.but i made allowances by telling myself…..yes what had happened in my life was very dark and i could see why people would be afraid…..i dont have any contact with any of the friends i had before my relationship ended……..i felt let down by most of them…..they didnt know how to deal with me………i was in a dark place afterwards and when all the deceit was reveals people were in shock and didnt know what to say to me…….i guess i self imposed not making contact with anyone too……i felt embarrassed at what has happened to me,felt ashamed…..feel sad…………and a let down……….now i can say i dont have any friends….except people i talk to in work,work colleagues and it was some of them that were amazing and helped me through the roughest times over the past few years…….
but when i come home and lock my door….im alone…..i dont want anybody near me…i dont want to put myself out there…i get frightened easily and scared of trusting anyone and afraid to make myself vulnerable…..i tell myself i dont need any friends its better that way.i can understand why friends cant cope with or understand what has happened to us….its too much for us…..too much pain and suffering……and they will just never understand unless it happened to them…
but sometimes all you need is someone to just listen and tell you everything is going to be ok…..i keep telling myself that……..everything is going to be ok…..but each day its hard.
so i will just keep telling myself it and i hope one day i wont struggle so much.
just wondering regard the ptsd……does it ever get any better?
i get triggered by the simplest of things into emotional flashbacks……and im so down over feeling ill never get any better….:(
Hi Lifting the veil, I know exactly what you mean, I too have basically isolated outside of my work contacts, save for about 3 lifelong friends that I talk to, on average, once or twice a month. I know about the PTSD as well, as I struggle with it and sometimes the oddest things end up being triggers for me – some of the triggers took time to identify as being directly related to my 18 months in hell. I hope it gets better for you and for all of us who struggle with these remnants of what is left of ourselves after such a dark life lesson. I wish there was more support out there for survivors of sociopaths, people who haven’t been through it really do not understand how deep that rabbit hole goes. For me it changed my foundational beliefs about humans, and their capacity for evil. I can never “un-know” what I know and go back to being naïve. How I wish I could. Nor can I easily trust people anymore. Anyway, just wanted to wish you well. I am really glad I stumbled upon this site tonight. I am out of my situation a year and a few months now and cannot understand why I still don’t feel better.
Hi Lifting the Veil.x
Keep telling yourself it will get better and that one day you wont struggle so much because it really is true even if it feels so impossible right now.x
I can totally relate to what you are saying here – I have felt the same.
One of the things I did was impose self isolation, from people who weren’t scared, from those who didn’t want to run away, from true friends – one of the things I felt at the time that things were so dark and so awful and so difficult to explain that I couldn’t bear to ‘lay’ it on anyone. like the poison I felt was somehow ‘infectious’.
I had also been so vulnerable after the relationship with the psychopath, that I had opened myself up again to manipulative people – I felt that I couldn’t ‘tell’ the difference between good and bad for me, and also that I had so little left I had nothing to give and who would want to be a friend of someone with nothing to give? Well I took control of that by making everyone’s decision for them!
I missed good friends weddings, births of their beautiful new babies, celebrations of new jobs – these were people I cared about – what a terrible person that made me huh? (Well no I’m not a terrible person or friend even after all that it turns out but I needed some time.)
The loneliness is so painful but it will get better.
In retrospect – I do feel that for me, I needed to do that. I needed to regroup, I didn’t have the energy to socialise – though at the time it felt like I never would again – that I had ‘lost the cog’ to do so and that I had lost everyone.
I seem to have moved through that – I kept moving – trying to be kind to myself – at first going through the motions of helping myself ( anti depressants, swimming, prioritising sleep, forcing myself kicking and screaming to write or paint or garden, make the bed.. wash!) and recently things have become brighter.
I find that the people who are my friends are still there – and that in many respects the relationships with them are better – I have come out less dependant on them for affection or attention or as remedy to loneliness – maybe that makes for much healthier friendships with them than I ever had before? The ‘medicine’ was painful and dark but necessary?:(
as for those that fell away – I see now how I had always been ‘dancing for snosages’ with them and that I would no longer do that, or be able to conduct friendships like that anyway.x
the PTSD will get better – again, there were periods where I couldn’t leave the house, noises would scare me,loud traffic… in my case I have a son ( who has a diagnosis of Autism and ADHD!) who NEEDED me to get up and do things – so I had to and somehow as time has gone on its got easier – but I had to just do it however I could at the time – so I took taxis everywhere at first-then gradually was able to walk – then started being able to say hello to people…I am still very careful of how I feel and will take ‘time out’ if I need to.x
Take care LTV. Force yourself to be kind to yourself. Don’t lose hope and you will start to notice just little things coming back all by themselves, little bits of everyday joy that will grow and grow.x
P.S Something else that I found myself doing (re: loneliness)in the absence of someone else to do it, that was actually quite good although it sounds BONKERS was actively ‘self soothing’ – I actually held my own hand sometimes, and stroked my own shoulders in a self hug and cooed and talked to myself like I would talk to my own baby if he was hurt ( ‘come one darling’, it’s okay sweet heart’etc x). Hmmmm yep – I thought that would sound crazy when I started typing it – but you know – we do what we need to sometimes and it worked for me!;)x
lifting the veil,
Are you being treated for PTSD;meds and possibly therapy?!I can’t make it without my med~~~I’ll have a meltdown!I know different ways of coping,but I still need the med.Keep a journal of your triggers and try to avoid them…if that’s not always possible,also include how you’ve been able to deal with them.
Humans are social creatures.We need to interact with others.So you need to stay open to finding atleast one friend!You mentioned how hard it is to trust now.I know…I still catch myself not trusting.We’ve been through so much!It’s a struggle to get our lives back!But we have to keep working on trusting~~~so don’t give up!
I have a lot of empathy for other people, especially women, who have been devastated by a sociopath. But I do feel that at some point you have to realize what is going on and get out of the way. At some point, the evidence is stacked so high, you cannot ignore it. We can’t stand on the tracks when we see a train racing toward us.
I think our sense of reality can become twisted by a relationship with a sociopath. That’s when we need to seek help and focus on minimizing the damage, getting the heck out and away from the source.
Here is a quote from Carl Jung that I like very much: “I am not what happened to me. I am what I chose to become.”
TheJB – Welcome to Lovefraud. Yes, many friends and family find it so difficult to listen, and they certainly don’t understand, unless they’ve lived it themselves. It’s a self-protective measure so people don’t upset their own equilibrium. But everyone here at Lovefraud knows what you’ve been through and can offer moral support.
Hi Donna,
Thank you very much! I am awestruck at the level of parallel I am reading in the stories of others. I’ve felt so alone for a long time in the level of what I went through, and many times thought I was losing my mind.
I am really glad I stumbled across this site, it is very validating.