Research into sociopathy/psychopathy has made a great deal of progress over the last 30 years. Even so, there is much that research does not address. For example, sociopaths are described as callous, lacking in empathy and without remorse for their hurtful actions. These sterile descriptors always fall short of really conveying the evil of the disordered.
A good 6 months before the Madoff story broke, I began a project to connect with the family members of professional con artists. The purpose of this project is to document the within family behavior of con artists and to link that “profession” to psychopathic personality traits. I have had good success connecting with family members and the exchange of information has been healing all around.
One con artist is in prison for affinity fraud- the use of a church, or other social connection to perpetrate fraud. This man was good at pretending to be a great “Christian” and used his church affiliation to swindle people. There is no doubt he is highly psychopathic as this is his second prison term and the descriptions given by his ex-wife are that of a classic sociopath.
Like many con artists, this man also has children. One of his daughters is the same age (within a couple of weeks) as my eldest daughter; she just turned 18. I spoke with this young lady with the permission of her mother and have had an ongoing dialogue with her. She wanted to talk to me because she was taking psychology in high school and had figured out on her own that her father is a sociopath.
This young lady is such a gem, so I’ll call her Gem here. She is smart, lovely and kind-hearted. In her own way she has been coming to grips with the reality that her father is incapable of love. He wasn’t physically violent but he has been callous, lacking in empathy and emotionally abusive toward everyone in the family. There I go with the adjectives that describe a sociopath.
Researchers are puzzled by the phenomenon of empathy in sociopaths. Although sociopaths seem to know all too well what others are thinking and feeling, they don’t respond in a normal way to what they know. Instead, they use their knowledge of others to manipulate. When the manipulation is perpetrated on a child or vulnerable teen/ young adult it is especially evil.
Gem shared with me the birthday communication she received from her imprisoned father. With her permission, I share it with you. She and I both hope this example will help other family members heal and move on. When I read the card, I was outraged and knew immediately the effect it had on my young friend. Without a lengthy explanation, a person ignorant of sociopaths would never “get it” regarding the manipulation I saw as blatant manipulation. Here is what the card said:
” My sweet baby girl, I miss you and love you very much. Happy 18th birthday. It seems like yesterday I held this little tiny baby with the biggest most beautiful eyes. I have so many great memories of you, handfuls of dog food, pretty little dresses. You played soccer but hated it. You danced and laughed your way into everyone’s heart. You are all a father could ever ask for in a daughter. I pray for you every day. May you find the best in life as you begin your adult life. I hope your dreams come true. You’re wonderful, beautiful, and always will be my little girl. God bless you.
Love Dad”
OK an ignorant person reading this would say, “What a sweet, nice card, to get from a father.” This communication might also be cited as an example of how hard it is for the kids of the imprisoned to be separated from their loving parents who made, “mistakes in life.”
A person who really knows sociopaths would react with outrage as I did. I know that just a few short months before this card, the father in question stole money from his ex-wife. Money she was using to take care of Gem, his little girl. Furthermore, all during Gem’s childhood he was conning people including family members out of their money. He never had any real connection to Gem. She never felt he loved or wanted her. This card in my view was pure evil, why? because it preyed upon this beautiful Gem, a young lady who always wished for a real father.
When she sent me what her father had written, I responded, “I am speechless over that card, it must represent everything you wish he would have said to you your whole life. I hope you keep it and believe in your heart, mind and soul that this is what YOU DESERVE always and forever from your parents and your boyfriend/future husband.”
Here is what Gem said in response to my interpretation, “it did just trigger something in me that just made me cry. I couldn’t help but break down and cry after reading that because I HAVE always wanted to hear that from a father-figure but now… it’s too late.”
This con artist, bored in prison is writing cards, hoping for some entertaining responses, while his family is working to heal, make sense of it all, and move on. The words of the card, if left unchecked by reality, delay the moving on that is so important. Gem is off to college next fall and is moving on to a great life that she will make for herself.
It is only my personal knowledge of sociopaths and how they operate that enabled the correct interpretation of the birthday card. Please feel free to share your own examples of a sociopath’s manipulation of your emotions. Particularly useful are examples of a sociopath’s use of words that are superficially appropriate, but very inappropriate given the specific circumstances.
rosa
im no saint. never claimed to be. nor do i need anyone to view me as a victim. its condesending.
now that you have already made me out to be a monster i will open msyelf up even more for the person out there that maybe holds back on this blog in order to fit in and therefore cant be herself or himself in these stages of healing and accepting oneself.
after i found out all about my ex i felt a pain that felt unbearable. my entire soul just fell apart. my whole ideas of this world were messed up. i honestly felt i had no ground to walk on. i replayed so many moments i shared with him in my mind and now knowing the horrible truth i was literally sick to my stomach constantly. after a few weeks i didnt worry about my mind anymore but i did worry i wasnt even physically capable of getting through it. i will be honest and maybe this shocks you maybe it doesnt. i fantasized about doing all sorts of things to him. i fantasized about ending him. i did. my anger ( and anger comes from hurt) was so great i thought i would be able to do it with my bare hands. BUT the difference between those who fantasize it and those who do it is that we dont. because we know it truly hurts our own soul if we would engage in this. i do a lot of yoga. they have a great rule. i dont know how to say it but the idea is that you never engage in any line of aggression ( even by eating no meat, as there was killing involved in that too, but this is just an example) why cause its damaging to yourself also! so i came back into a balance ( not there yet) by simply accepting my emotions and honouring them as my hurt instead of making it about him ( with help of my psychologist).
so i still stick to allowing myself to enjoy that quote from Kathleen’s wonderful post. i think in a way it brings solace and i am bitterly disappointed that you made me and others ashamed of enjoying that quote. i think in order to be whole human beings and especially us women, we need to acknowledge our true feelings, whether it be conformed to the ‘ ideal picture’ of women made by whomever. I love that quote. It brings me solace. dont think youre holier than me cause you didnt enjoy that quote. please respect the fact we cope with things different. so far all i see you do is sabotage conversations and indeed triggering other people. i havent been participated in the blogs (because of your offensive comments, that have been taken off for good reason), but i have been reading them. now you again decide to speak to me directly. YOU keep doing that. i cant see any healthy reason why you would continuoulsy put your energy in initiating these negative posts.
Dear Rosa and MariaLisa,
Can we, for the sake of so many who are hurting and needing to heal, get back to LF…
Rosa… I miss your posts and your insights and ability to not engage with anyone who you are uncomfortable with.
Maria Lisa.. Your contributions here have been beneficial to others and equally encourage you not to engage with anyone you are uncomfortable with.
Remember, we all have a choice to not engage or to simply carry on with conversations that contain absolutely no abusive comments — only insights toward healing and growth. If somebody crosses the line we all have the choice to REPORT ABUSIVE COMMENT – and continue on our journey together as a group with individuality and “cyber companionship” formed by anyone who so chooses to do so along the way
Hope this is received with the intentions it is meant with — MOVING ON! xo
learntthelesson
i understand and respect your intentions and agree with what you say.
…thank you…
ROSA:
I LOVE YOU ROSA!!! SORRY I AM CHICKENSHIT!!! xoxoxoxoxoxxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxxoxo BUT I AM THE INVISIBLE WOMAN,AND WILL ALWAYS BE HERE WITH YU.
P.S. When you come over for your vacation, can you teach me some YOGA (how to breathe would be a good start), along with how to stay in the ring! lol!!!! YOU ARE AMAZING!
I’m trying to stay out of this, because I find it upsetting.
But I want to clarify one thing. That is MY article that MariaLisa quoted. My words. My thinking. My choice of that quote.
I put it in there because I liked it. And because it was a direct communication to a sociopath. (Please go back and read that section. It is the last line of a kiss-off letter to a sociopath.) And it states in no uncertain terms that the writer is no longer protecting the sociopath.
The quote is from a king who had the power to condemn a sociopath to execution for murder, but because he was an old friend, the king declined to do it. But he effectively gave the rest of the kingdom a license to finish this guy off without fear of prosecution, if anyone else considered him to be an anti-social menace. And I know exactly how that king felt.
As far as I’m concerned, if my sociopathic ex ever finally gets to pay for what he as cost me and his other victims, I’m going to break open a bottle of champagne and send one to all the other surviving victims that I can find. I personally don’t want to dirty my hands or my soul in harming him. Or in paying someone else to do that dirty work. But if someone else feels up to taking it on, I would, at minimum, “pardon” him and probably consider that I owe him more than that, just for relieving me of fear that he might show up in my life again.
And if that attitude makes me a murderer by proxy, I can live with that. Years ago, a friend of mine in Spain that raised prize swine has his finger almost torn off by a massive boar. He got the finger patched up, and when butchering season arrived in the autumn, that boar was the first to go. He had a big sausage-grinding party and I helped with the butchering. I never saw my friend angry about this. It was just a done deal when the boar hurt him.
My ex’s life is still built on what he got from me. And I am still living with the financial losses of the relationship (never mind the emotional ones). I practice forgiving in the sense that I don’t give him a lot of my mental real estate anymore. But it doesn’t change what happened, or that he has no intention of repaying what he took from me.
I put that line in the article, because it was exactly what I feel. And because I think it is a healthy way for any of us to feel when we’re truly done with these people. They are not our friends, and they are menaces to society.
Kathy
kathy
“As far as I’m concerned, if my sociopathic ex ever finally gets to pay for what he as cost me and his other victims, I’m going to break open a bottle of champagne and send one to all the other surviving victims that I can find. I personally don’t want to dirty my hands or my soul in harming him. Or in paying someone else to do that dirty work. But if someone else feels up to taking it on, I would, at minimum, “pardon” him and probably consider that I owe him more than that, just for relieving me of fear that he might show up in my life again.
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YES YES YES YES YES!!! is all i can say. and read back my posts: it is how it felt!
i said that it was from your post everytime!
i dug the hell out of it and thought the quote from Henry the( so many, cant remember) just summarised it so well.
i will do whatever i can to focus on my own path but ill be damned if one day i hear he is locked up and i wont sigh out of relief. he hurt and ruined TOO many lives.
And if that attitude makes me a murderer by proxy, I can live with that
oh woops, that last sentence also belonged to your quote kathy sorry about that…
ill leave it now!!
Kathy — Its a good quote!!!! I carry it with me,so to speak, to help remind me of the deep dark places he took me – the horrible side of me only he can bring out — and the fact that if he was no longer existing today – I would at least know and believe it was not the loss of a good soul contributing to his own life and others. The quote allowed me to see that people can say and feel things to make themselves feel better – never acting on them – but just finding either release, relief and or humor in quotes is possible – as well as offense – but its an individual thing and neither of which to be judged… at least not here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Got a chuckle out of the sausage grinding party…the stories here are priceless – and we each can walk away from so many different stories and journies with our own interpretation and to each his own!
How bout those Phillies everyone!!!!!
Kathy:
I didn’t read anything earlier, i am just here for Rosa no matter what coz she has saved my life. I’m off to spend five hours straight with the p art teacher! Luvyu! xo