No contact is of the utmost importance when it comes to recovering from any unhealthy relationship. Why, then, can it be so hard to maintain? How is it that we can do so well for long stretches and then become instant Jell-O with seemingly little warning?
Of the myriad of struggles we may experience during recovery, this seems to be one of the most common snags. The cold reality is that we are going through withdrawal and there is no methadone to ease the pain of this addiction. Making matters worse, each and every time we break it, the clock starts over, feeling worse than we did previously.
However, from experience, I know that we do get to the point where we truly do not care to emotionally interact with our past counterparts. We also genuinely get to the point where their attempts yield little or no emotional response from us. At the same time, I also know that the road to that place can be quite long and challenging.
Recently, I realized that another interesting snafu exists regarding the no contact rule: successful implementation with one individual often does not automatically carry over into other relationships where the same is necessary. Yes, we may pay better attention to various red flags and recognize certain behaviors and know what must be done, but that doesn’t mean it’s necessarily smooth sailing. However, with diligence, we can do it.
How can we fight the urge to talk, text, or write?
1. Examine the feelings causing the need to want contact
Other than in cases where we were so deeply involved that we became “addicted” to our pathological other halves, fear and old habits are two very common reasons we consider re-connecting with our pasts.
Believe it or not, one of my past no contact struggles was prompted by a dinner conversation with someone I had known much of my adult life. Over steak and a Stella (Artois) the nicest man in the world (not a psychopath) revealed that he was interested in a relationship with me. Instantly, the twinge from within took over. “Me?” I asked in a shocked, surprised, and probably fairly horrified voice. “Yes, you. You are beautiful, smart, and strong. What guy wouldn’t want that?”
From there it got fuzzy. I began to sweat profusely and my head began to spin. However, once I got past the shock, I mentally reviewed my past relationship life. The sad fact was that I didn’t think I could be attracted to a “nice” guy (an issue for another article, which, by the way, I now have totally figured out, at least in theory, even if not in practice.)
So, what did I want? Why did a nice person make me long to reconnect with someone I have absolutely no business being with? Much like a dieter looking for a cheeseburger, I wanted to travel back in time to something that felt more comfortable; I longed for an unhealthy relationship where I could give, give, and give some more, while only receiving small amounts of reciprocity along the way.
Being a “fixer,” giving more than I get comes naturally, but it shouldn’t and fear of the unknown and desire for familiarity should not be the driving force behind contact, especially when the outcome would not yield satisfying results. Thus, just because it’s comfortable, doesn’t mean we should return to it.
I resisted.
2. Examine what happened after the previous communications….and there probably were previous communications
It is likely that prior attempts did not work or we wouldn’t be here. No good can come of making contact with someone who either does not want it with us, is just not that into us, or is pathological. Therefore, we must examine our motives. What do we hope to achieve from our communication? Unless the answer is more heartache or irritation, which will send us reeling and feeling terrible, we should not do it.
How many times have we poured our hearts out and offered explanations for things not working if we wanted to make peace with an ex or ex-interest? How many times have we tried to explain “just one more time,” for some semblance of closure?
We are famous for owning everything; the things we should take responsibility for, as well as those we should absolutely not! They know this. It takes most of us concerted efforts to stop that…and we should stop it. Although counterintuitive, it will bring us to a better emotional place, as we take control of our own peace.
When I thought about all of this, I resisted.
3. Review “old material.”
Most of our counterparts assume we have short memories. In some ways we do, but not always. For most of us, it is in our nature to try to see the good in others and forgive. Many of us have also endured such extreme trauma that we block quite a bit out. However, for those of us who are savers of correspondence, it helps to resurrect what we have. It’s like relationship Soduko.
When last I felt weak over a past connection, I wanted to text to say something…anything, exactly what I didn’t know. I spent the better part of two hours talking myself out of doing so. While my heart and rational brain dueled like two pianos in a night club, I pulled up his name in my phone. Fortunately, I am not one to delete much, so I scrolled to the last break-up conversation (there are a few) and read what he had written. Needless to say, I put the phone down. There would be no text from me.
I decided that I did not really care for how he spoke to me in those texts. I re-visited the feelings the silent treatment that followed evoked. There was a time when I minimized the words, but not at that moment. The words were mean and I felt empty. I did not care that my reactions to them were not perfect (they were not.) I was able to re-live the experiences in my mind and chose me and my well being.
Likewise, years ago, I felt I needed reassurance that my decision to enlist no emotional contact with another individual was warranted. While years of experience should have been enough, the volumes of past e-mail and the journals I kept were what really told the tale. “Normal” was not part of the equation. The pathology in that correspondence was like graffiti on a wall and the ability to see the big picture, a written gift.
With that, I continued to resist.
4. Examine the situation objectively
What would you tell your girlfriend to do if she came to you for advice, assuming the tables were turned? If the answer is run, resist contact.
This goes hand in hand with using old material. We can pull from past conversations and experiences, re-examining the negative feelings those situations created, and acknowledging the red flags we noticed throughout our relationships. We should try to trust in our initial reactions to them. If we felt hurt before, they will hurt again once re-opened. It helps to step outside ourselves and recognize our own worth and beauty, just as we would a friend’s.
When I thought about how I’d counsel my bestie, I resisted.
5. Give it time
Sit on your desire to initiate contact for at least one week or some other extended period of time. It’s a good idea to use this time to think about all of the potential consequences. The wait will probably be worth it.
Isn’t this difficult? Trust me when I tell you, this goes against every fiber of my being, but the wait time will clear us for the option and allow us to choose what’s best for us, which is probably resisting.
What about when they dangle the carrot and casually contact us first?
Resist. Truly. Resist. Depending upon the circumstances, we may or may not choose to respond. Just as we did above, when we were thinking about initiating contact, we must ask ourselves what we hope to achieve by answering them, as well as what the consequences could be for either. If it is a communication that does not require a response or would send us backwards, we should let it go. If we choose to respond, keep it short and unemotional. If we cared or care more than they do, we are the ones at risk for becoming emotionally entangled again.
There is always the possibility that the contact may be legitimate, unless, of course, the person truly is pathological, which may or may not be the case. Regardless, if they tell us they are thinking about us or they miss us, they may. We may actually be on their minds. Truthfully, however, it probably means nothing near what we tend to turn it into.
Typically, when they make contact, they are merely “fishing” to check in on our emotional states. Our reactions act as barometers. Therefore, we should guard what we give back. We may truly no longer care, we may be full-on acting, or we may legitimately be somewhere in the middle. But that’s ours to know.
What do we want for the long haul?
So…we had a bad experience or two. That’s ok. What matters is that we part with a clearer picture of what we see for our futures. How do we want to feel and what are we willing to tolerate? No contact helps us stay the course.
While various things will undoubtedly wreak havoc with our desire to maintain no contact, understanding the roots of our struggles and using our tools can be incredibly helpful. Be strong, friends, and if you falter, know that it’s ok to re-set the clock, but also allow yourself extra care while dealing with the challenges that go hand in hand with that re-set.
Above all else, know that the day will come when the urge to re-connect will disappear for good. If the need repeats itself with another individual, use what you know as empowerment. If we were successful once, we can be successful again. Always learning, always improving.
Brilliant – thank you ! I am printing this out and posting it where I can see it everyday.
Linda – a great message! Thank you.
This post could not have come at a better time – especially the part about how just because no contact is easy with one person, it doesn’t mean it will be easy with the next one. I am struggling not to email a guy who keeps popping up in my life like a whack-a-mole every so often. He disappeared for 3 months after we started connecting last winter. His excuse was that a friend of his was murdered and he crawled into a shell for 3 months. As soon as I opened the door for him again, he begged to see me. We had one date and barring a few flirtatious emails, he disappeared again for 3-4 weeks! Just like you said, Linda, I keep asking if it’s anything I’m doing wrong – if I’m too guarded, too depressed, giving out the wrong signals, etc. But bottom line is I made it very clear this time around that he would have to work hard to rebuild the trust.
Instead of working hard to rebuild my trust, he has gone off to music festivals, hung out at bars a lot and just been too busy. If I send him an email, he will respond and test the waters to see if I want to sleep with him. But he will not ask me on a date, which is what I want. He has thrown me a crumb or two. And yet, the pain of addiction is excruciating. I dreamt last night that some friends and I were in his house. He left us there while he went out partying. I went to look for signs in his bedroom of another woman. I didn’t have to look far. Lingerie was all over the top of the dresser. This is extremely painful for me. And it’s very very familiar. He last emailed me several days ago telling me about his fun day, but didn’t ask me out. I have been fighting the urge to write him back. The attraction I feel – and have felt – for him is very very strong. I did feel at one time that we could have had something really powerful. He expressed that he felt it too. So I don’t know what happens with him. I believe he is a narcissist. But my heart does not want to believe it.
Thanks for the reminder to stay no contact. I know I will get this pain out of me soon enough, and then I’ll be ready to open my heart again. I refuse to let these whack-a-moles break me. I know what I want and deserve. I just notice that I do not seem to get attracted to the nice ones. Maybe if there was a nice one who was very interesting and not too needy….
Star…
Am sorry to share that my ex did that to me. He’d call and tell me about an activity he did. I found out he was with another women. I told my husband to not tell me about his “dates”. He lied and said he wasn’t with anyone. That’s when I knew, he got some kind of “WIN”, a feeling of “getting one over on me” by describing his good time with the wife who separated from him because of his unfaithfulness.
Once someone crosses the line into showing disrespect for you, they don’t go back.
ps “Nice” guys are needy, usually have mommy issues.
Instead, look for an emotionally healthy guy. He’ll be the one who is considerate, not looking for sex but looking to get to know you, is financially secure, and is physically healthy, with good moral character. He’ll be the one who is not looking to “hook up” but is seeking a woman who wants to get to know him, is financially secure, and physically healthy, with good moral character.
Dear Not,
I forgot to mention that his email was in response to one I’d sent him. He has asked me what I was doing for the weekend. Since he had given me NO notice, I just told him I had a lot of fun plans, because I did. I also told him about a famous Colorado singer (who happens to be a friend of mine) who was hosting karaoke night on Sunday night. He had expressed interest in the past because he’d sung with her once. I didn’t “invite” him. I just let him know it was happening. After the fact, I sent him some pictures of me and her singing, just very casually. I called the email “The fun you missed” and it was sent in a playful spirit. That’s when he wrote back immediately and said “next time” and that he’d played 57 round of golf that and then watched a good movie with “friends”. I’m sure “friends” were a woman, not that it even matters. He asked if I’d seen the movie, to which I have not responded. Fighting the urge to reply and start the cat-and-mouse game all over. But I won’t.
I hate it when I get into playing games with guys and second guessing myself. I know he is just not interested. I just wish he’d quit playing with me and just go away. We are both WAY too old for these games.
I have a date next weekend with a very interesting guy who is really fun to talk to, has 3 degrees in Engineering, has lived in Africa, traveled all over the world, is Buddhist like me, and is very down to earth. Naturally, I don’t feel any physical attraction yet, but who knows.
The thing that makes this especially heartbreaking is that every time he has come into my life, he has emphatically pushed through my defenses to get a date with me, insisting he is interested. Then after the date, he becomes scarce. Except he puts out “feelers” to see if I want to play Scrabble. Playing Scrabble for us is a code word for making out because every time we play Scrabble, we end up on the couch. At least that’s what happened last winter. I have not allowed it this time. Too bad, he is the only person who can beat me at Scrabble. Thankfully, I have never slept with him. But the chemistry is just SO strong. It’s hard to stop thinking about him. I actually wish I HAD slept with him. At least I could have that good memory for all the heartbreak. I can’t imagine I would hurt any worse if I had.
Where I become weak (and this is my fatal flaw) is I start blaming myself – I know everyone here has done that. I start thinking I was too guarded or not interesting enough to hold his attention. Or that I play too many games (in response to his). Really, I’m just guarding myself waiting for him to reach out. But he doesn’t. I think he likes to be chased, and I think he will only go out of his way if he thinks sex will be involved. He is one of those musicians who probably has women throwing themselves at him so this is what he is used to. I’m so mad at myself for falling for this loser.
Star
Your post brought to mind the book “Dance of Intimacy”. You weren’t salsa dancing, you were in a “Tango with Gumby”. He was a contortionist, bending so he’d never connect. (nuttin wrong with a good time as long as both know that’s all it’s ever going to be but if one person wants a relationship and the other is just hooking up, both need to take a pass.)
Even though none of us have met, I tend to feel protective of people on lf. The guy was no good enough for you in the way that matters. And since you felt a strong pull, you needed to be NC from him for your own emotional health.
This next guy sounds like he has possibilities. He’s certainly had an interesting life. I am cautious about 3 engineering degrees. Engineers are very left brain.
ps My wise therapist? Told me that when chemistry for another is extremely strong, that’s an indicator of an unhealed motional wound, not a soul connection.
Dear Not,
I think you are completely right, and your therapist, too. Thanks so much for your response. It’s just what I need to hear. I am in touch with the pain of this rejection very acutely. I am processing it a little at a time. I keep meaning to read a book that an old poster recommended to me – Games People Play by Eric Berne (I think that’s his name). I believe this guy I am hung up on is a narcissist. Usually with someone like this, when you start to get close is when they distance themselves. He seems to only pursue me when I dump him permanently. I think he figures if he just disappears, he still has me on the line and can reel me in periodically for an ego boost or a possible booty call. If I can just see it really clearly and not go into denial, I’ll be okay. But ANY time I have contact with him I get reeled in.
Wow, I really need to heal this pattern. One after the other like this. Fortunately, they are not sociopaths. And fortunately, I have not slept with any of them. But dang – one right after the other. I am going out dancing tonight for the first time in a long time. And I have a giant beach party with a bunch of strangers tomorrow. I am putting myself back out there just to have some fun and socialize after being reclusive for a few months. Thank God for my salsa dance classes – my teacher and our students – they give me so much joy and give me a reason to get out of bed and get dressed in the morning. I’ve been struggling with so much pain lately. But I’ll get through it. It’s just a long, slow process for some of us. 🙁
I appreciate you and everyone else here for giving me the needed support. It has been a while since I have felt safe enough to ask advice here. In past days, it hasn’t gone very well.
I had a very big victory that I want to share here. Last night I went out to the salsa club and had a blast for 2-1/2 hours. I have rarely gone out social dancing in a year because of the drama I went through with my old salsa flame (who never returned my feelings) and my best salsa girlfriend who stepped up and became his most regular dance partner after I went no contact with the guy. It hurt so bad, I almost dropped out of salsa. I’m happy to report I’m back on the scene. He was there last night. He NEVER goes to this venue in a different town an hour away from both of us, but he was there. It was a great test of my presence. Though I noticed him and felt a little nostalgic, it did not trigger me at all. In fact, I think he was there with someone. I ignored him and had the time of my life, and he ignored me. I found myself thinking it was HIS loss – he current dance partner is nothing to look at and no great dancer. And neither is he. It is truly HIS loss that he played with my feelings and lost me as a dance partner and as a friend.
But the biggest surprise was that this morning I woke up and felt grateful for the year I got to dance with him. He made me the dancer I am today. But I don’t need him anymore, and I don’t miss dancing with him anymore. The magic I felt with him isn’t because he’s any better of a dancer than anyone else. It was because of the romance we had – all the chemistry. Without that, he’s not any better than anyone else to dance with.
As for the other guy – this recent guy, I forgot all about him last night, too. I am still in pain but I have a handle on it. The drama is now contained within me, and I will get through it. All of these unavailable men….I just had to go through this pain. It’s not about them – it’s about me. This is MY lesson to learn.
All,
Thank you for the thank you’s and you are welcome! Oddly enough, I wrote this and then actually sat on it for a while. I wasn’t sure if I should post it, but I am glad I did if it helps!
When I find myself having to re-read my own material or actively think through a situation in order to deal with it, something tells me I need to put it out there, because if I need it, someone else might too!
Star…I am so happy you are happy about your victory last night. I, too, believe it is HUGE! It never ceases to amaze me how when the light bulb does finally go on for me, there’s no turning back and I am done. You are SO right, it is HIS loss. Good, good, good! It’s so amazing to enjoy why you are really there and let go of all else. Very nice!
Also, it is funny that you mention the “unavailable” thing. I had a very startling revelation a few weeks ago about that very subject that I then started writing about. Ultimately, I ended up stuck, but promise to go back to it in my free time (haha… 🙂 but no…really.) That part IS about us, but I once we think it through, it can be overcome.
NotWhat…I LOVE what your therapist suggested. That is PERFECT!
Thanks for reading!!!
Iam so sad…. just reaching out.
what are you sad about kittylover?
thank you for Asking… notwhathesaid…
I allowed him back. it has ended in the worst way… with my looking bad now. this was a very sick man. How can I tell you guys my story… like a new thread……i need love and support. please.
bless you all.
Hi Kittylover, (((HUGS))) to you! Not sure how you create a new thread but you can post your story here on this post if you like.
Sociopaths are masters at getting you to take them back then they twist everything around, discard you and make you look like the crazy person when the truth is they are the crazy person and like you stated they are very sick people. So please dont take the blame for what HE did to you and dont worry about what others think of you as they are just being conned by this sociopaths too and one day they too will get discard and made to look like the “crazy one”. It’s the cycle of sociopathic abuse this is why the sociopath is always looking for new supply they know they can not keep their mask on for long.
I can promise you when you follow the no contact rule and you educate yourself on sociopath behavior/mind games and how they abuse their victims you are able to open up your mind from all the brain fog from and once you have time away from his controlling brain washing and mind control you will NEVER go back to him again. It’s the only true way of setting yourself free from them.
Look at adrenalfatigue.org take the quiz/see symptoms list/read, Drlam.com and mialundin.com….all the stress you have been under your adrenal glands are most likely fatigue causing issues with how you handle stress, thinking, and dealing with your emotions. This is one of the missing links to healing from a sociopathic abusive relationship.
You have so much support here, you are not alone!
oh my God. thank you sooooooo much.
Hi kittylover (I love kitties too BTW though mine have all passed. 🙁
I know the internet is not a substitute for a real life support network, but this is a place of healing, and we do care. I have actually thought about this – whether I can love people more in real life than I can over the internet. I can’t speak for others. But my heart does not know the difference. I tear up when I read people’s stories, and I reach out in words as if the posters were real life friends. I think you will find a lot of love and caring here. Though it is not a substitute for the love and care you need to give to yourself, we are here for you as long as you need us, though we don’t all come around frequently. I myself sometimes am offline for weeks. This site has been a lifeline for many in times of need because not everyone understands how dangerous a sociopath is.
Your psychopath sounds like a scary one. I’m so sorry the other woman betrayed you. I probably would have called her too. She is probably in his evil clutches and being manipulated by him, just as you are. To answer your question about why you still want him – aside from all the chemicals that are released in your body when you bond with someone, you are not completely out of denial about what he is. It’s very difficult to wrap your head around it. But once you see very clearly what he is without a doubt, it will be easier for you to stay away. The longing and obsessing has an element of denial – that you want to believe he is the loving caring person he has shown you at times. It is almost like the bargaining phase of grieving. You are asking yourself why and what if. Here is my answer for that. Even if deep down inside, he was Christ reincarnated, would you want to give a man another chance who has treated you like this? You deserve better. Much better. So take out your inner machete (we all have one) and cut ties with him. Your emotions will eventually follow.
Warmly,
Star
Regardless of the topic, I felt that I had to share this. But then, according to these questions, I’m a narcissist! I just love to take control, talk a lot, draw attention to myself, blah blah blah. . . . But read the last line. It’ll blow your mind.
http://sociopathlife.com/seductionstage-2/are-you-a-narcissist/
And yes, I struggle with “no contact” on my sister, every day. Every. Single. Day. With every self-help book I read, every comment by a life coach, every spiritual meeting I attend — because I’m not “being” that person I strive to be. That’s the cruelty of “no contact”: It flies in the face of every ethical, transparent, honest mode of communication we hold ourselves accountable to. Why, indeed, if we are strong, should we fear the spath, or the narcissist, or the borderline personality?
Answer: Because that’s just the space in which we will not only attract flies like them but fall for their tricks.
Scary. If you agree to be held accountable for anything in your interactions with others, then you are “road kill.” That’s the hook. That’s where they get you.
To be loving, open, and in awe of another person’s high personal development — is to be disappointed. At what point does a person just shut down and refuse to trust anyone?
I question every, single, one, of, my, connections. Don’t you?
Or . . . as the “quiz” above demonstrates, reality gets turned upside-down. Which one is the narcissist? The one who admits they have some narcissistic traits . . . or the one who honestly believes they have none? It’s a hall of mirrors.
sistersister,
I have a response from reading your post, before I even look at the link:
I have to laugh. Not in a bad way, but because of recognizing something obvious in others that applies to me… but it’s that something that I don’t recognize until I see it from some elses perspective:
omg. do people say that anymore? too cliché? okay, let me go back to my old standard. oh SHI…..!!! There’s that enormous self responsibility standard! The one where we almost always take too much responsibility. We even LOOK for where we don’t take enough responsibility and attempt to grab even more! We are SO hyper responsible!
(aside: does this come from being blamed as a kid for what others do? a powerless kid who is scapegoated for the behaviors of others? Or even blamed for what they themselves can not possibly have control of?)
It IS upside down. Especially when you realize that narcissists don’t question their own accountability. That’s why they think they have NO narcissism!
And in our determination to be VIGILENTLY self responsible, we forget what is NORMAL.
NORMAL people have HEALTHY narcissism. NORMAL people LIE! yep! They do! NORMAL people manipulate! That’s NORMAL. (My therapist is my jewel, she tells me the obvious. We had a convo about what’s normal. She said, forget the words and focus on the act…what’s the purpose? If a person is trying to destroy another, then it’s bad. If you’re stealing from another or destroy another, then that answers if you are narcissist or disordered or a bad bad person.)
The answer to your question is EASY. By the very fact that you question and are willing to adjust your behavior to be a more aware, more considerate, more conscious, MORE SELF-RESPONSIBLE person…. the obvious becomes more obvious. You are not disordered. You do NOT have NPD.
You are the kind of person we need in this world, to keep us from turning civilization into plunder and pillaging all-for-me chaos. You are the civilizing influence that makes it possible for have quality of life in this world.
I can see this in others…. why can’t I see these truths about myself! Is it because there’s something wrong with me? HA! No… I have learned, it’s because I THINK if I am responsible, then it follows that I have control and can change it and fix it, make it all better. But the fact is… IF…I, you, we DON’T have control… we are NOT responsible! So stop trying to be responsible just because somebody says you are! Others have their own agenda, and it’s not always a nice one!
What we are responsible for is protecting the sacredness of our souls, of our spirits. And if another assaults our inner selves, then we are called to keep them at bay, to put boundries on them. Boundries are determined by what it takes for the transgressers to not harm our inner spirits. For some people, just saying No is enough. For the narcissists and disordered, they will not abide by the boundry and then we are called to make the boundry more solid, what ever it takes..whether distance, or complete NC.
The boundry against those who would not let you BE YOURSELF, is how you free yourself to BE YOURSELF.
Hope my words are not too confusing. I set aside my Sundays for spiritual nurturing, self-reflection, and communion with my GOD.
Also interesting what you say about “responsibility” meaning a mistaken responsibility to “make it all better.” Good point that I don’t always get. But thinking more deeply about how to overcome that — there might be a perhaps different definition of making it all better. I make it better when I assert my own self — my offensive, smelly, rude, insensitive, never-going-to-get-what-she-wants-because-she’s-doing-it-all-wrong self.
Maybe the next step in evolution is for a critical mass of people to “do it all wrong.” To look like fools. To say something absolutely, in-your-face disgusting to someone because we just want to. Would that be so bad?
My last stupid full-time job was working at a Wall Street outfit notorious for its passive-aggressive nonsense, both internally and externally. It literally brought the whole world economy down. I begged at one point to be moved to the 33rd floor, just to get away from the jerks. When I got there, I didn’t exactly escape all the jerks, but . . . but! . . . I landed within earshot of an elderly, about-to-retire woman named Estelle. Every other word out of Estelle’s mouth was about four letters long and very, very loud. And I loved it! I used to shout things over the cubicle wall like, “Tell us what you really think, Estelle.”
What if we were all like Estelle? Would the world really turn into a mean and nasty place? Or isn’t the way it is, mean and nasty enough for you?
Dear NotWhatHeSaidofMe,
Thank you for your eloquent response to the previous comments from sistersister!
I have been struggling with a relationship with a psychopath, to be honest, from pretty much when we first got together. I’ve made repeated attempts at freeing myself from this toxic man, but always came back to a place where I would see him and go through all the dramas once again.
I’ve spent a lot of time over the past 2 years discussing, meditating, thinking and writing, and still always came back to the same place. I knew deep down that it just wasn’t going to work, regardless of the laughs, good sex and fun. But hadn’t worked out the deeper reason for holding on…until I understood he’s a miserable psychopath and I thought it was my ’job’ to make him a happier person! Thank you LoveFraud!!!
But far from being passive and accepting of their bad behaviour I would ’discuss’ it…point out what I felt was wrong (eg their pathological lying and drug/alcohol use). But these ’conversations’ were always one-way…I never got a response. At first I thought it was because of their poor social and communication skills after years in prison, but it wasn’t…they just never felt they were wrong…ever. These silences would eventually drive me into a rage and I would swear and be verbally abusive. I felt disgusted with myself for this behaviour and struggled with it.
I consider myself a spiritual person, and to act in this way was abhorrent to me. But it would happen again and again. He always ’forgave’ me, saying how much he loved me… but I realise now it was never about forgiveness or love. It was about him holding on to the many benefits of being with me, and at every opportunity he would tell me, months later, about how ’hurt’ he had been etc. But he never expressed that at the time. I’m not saying he didn’t have love for me (he probably still does), but this love was centred on his feelings. How I felt was actually irrelevant to him. In fact he told me that he decided whether a concern I had was valid…which is why there was silence from him when I was upset. I found this extremely hurtful last year…now I just think-what a cheek!
So the concern for me was my own behaviour. I learnt very quickly that you cannot change others, only yourself and that is what I set about doing. I have worked hard to develop a level of spirituality that does not ‘allow’ me to be so angry, so aggressive. It is not my nature…and only ever happened when I was with him. In some ways I think there is/was too much ’water under the bridge’ for me to ever forgive his behaviour last year when he bit my chest (scarred for life) and destroyed 12 items of irreplaceable clothing. I even found another cut in a jacket today (almost a year later)! I have accepted that I will probably never forgive. I’m happy with that. I was brought up to forgive…but I think some things are unforgiveable and only I can decide.
So the reason I am writing in response to your post is your words:
” What we are responsible for is protecting the sacredness of our souls, of our spirits. And if another assaults our inner selves, then we are called to keep them at bay, to put boundries on them. Boundries are determined by what it takes for the transgressers to not harm our inner spirits..”
Thank you for putting it so beautifully. This will be my mantra for the rest of my life.
‘I must protect the sacredness of my soul. No transgressor will harm my inner spirit’.
This is what I now realise I have been ’fighting’ for/with all this time.
Thank you.
Sistersister, replying to your earlier post….this was very interesting.
I recall about 5 years ago when I finally saw my own narcissism. It was very disappointing to say the least. But in a way it was freeing. I felt like I had owned a piece of myself that I was afraid to look at before. Even though it was a very normal response to growing up with narcissistic parents, it still hurt my pride to see it. But I didn’t die when I saw it. In fact, it made me more whole, more human, more connected with others. I could talk about this set of defenses (that’s all it is really) instead of acting it out. Other people (normal people – not the disordered) can relate to your admission of weaknesses more than trying to deal with your defenses. They may not have the same weaknesses, but they have their own. This puts us all on a level playing field. I used to always feel like I was different, a loner, more screwed up than everyone. Now I can say, “Here is what happened to me, and here is how I responded to it. Here is my story.” Just as valuable and valid as anyone else’s story. There is no harm in discovering you have some very ugly traits. We all have a shadow side. By definition, the shadow is the part of us that we can’t see. It’s in the shadows so to speak. The more of our shadow side we can own, the more complete and whole we will be. However, the same is true for our beautiful, brightly shining sides. We get to own those, too. I know for myself I can be sensitive, self-centered, demanding, impatient, indifferent, even sociopathic at times. I can also be extremely wise and compassionate, kind, caring, loyal, and non-judgmental. Can I love myself with ALL of these things? I hope so!
Whatever my sister’s defenses are – attachment disorder, borderline, narcissist….I do not know. I know that she projects a lot of negative things onto me and does not see my inner beauty. This is because she cannot see her own. Though I don’t take it personally, I have also learned to love her from a distance. That means I do not share much personal information with her unless necessary. I still love her and always will. But we may never speak again. We have not seen each other in over 30 years. It is not my job to heal her or to take abuse from her as part of her recovery. And it hurts. But……
One of the things I’ve found that in having no biological family, I’m free to have the whole world as my family. I tend to reach other to people more. When I meet people for the first time, I behave as though they are my family. The funny thing is that I do feel like many of these people have risen to the occasion, depending on their degree of emotional availability and their choices and preferences. And the ones who project onto me and don’t see who I am……I just distance myself and put my energy elsewhere.
Here is a great metaphor I once heard from a friend of mine. He is a salsa dance partner who is a bit older than me and very wise. He is a very emotionally open person. I can tell when I dance with him, and this is why I feel so free and joyful when we dance together. He told me that when he dances with different women, he can tell how emotionally available they are. The way he describes it is he can tell where they “get off the bus”. Obviously, he seeks people who will ride the bus the entire distance with him. Not everyone can do that. People “get off the bus” at different places. I’m learning to see where people “get off the bus” in my own life and not to take it personally.