In a prior post, I discussed some differences between the narcissist and sociopath, a focus I’d like to continue in this post. For convenience’s sake, I’m going to use “he” and “him” throughout, although we can agree that “she” and “her” could easily be substituted.
The narcissist, if I were to boil his style down to one sentence, is someone who demands that his sense of self (and self-importance) be propped-up on a continual basis. Without this support—in the form of validation, recognition, and experiences of idealization—the narcissist feels depleted, empty, depressed.
The narcissist struggles to define himself independently and sustainedly as significant and worthwhile. The fragility of his sense of self is no big news; it is how he manages his fragility, his insecurity, that is telling.
The narcissist, for instance, feels entitled to a sense of inner comfort and security. More specifically, he feels entitled to what he requires in order to experience an unbroken state of inner comfort.
But wait a second? Don’t we all feel somewhat entitled to what we need in order to feel secure and comfortable?
Most of us, after all, feel entitled to the air we breath that keeps us alive. You might feel entitled, when dehydrated, to a cold stream of water from your kitchen faucet? Imagine feeling an intense thirst, yet when you twist the faucet, no water comes out? The pipes are empty”¦everywhere in the house.
You are deeply thirsty, and yet the water you count on to salve your thirst is being withheld. In this circumstance, especially if your thirst is great, you might feel outraged? Incensed? Even panicked?
You might even feel furious enough to hurl curses and imprecations on the forces conspiring to frustrate your thirst!
Imagine the narcissist’s thirst as constant and deep—a thirst for things like recognition, appreciation, for validation of his importance, and special signifigance. When the narcissist’s thirst for recognition is unmet, it is no small matter—anymore than it would be a small matter to find a spigot unresponsive in the midst of your urgent thirst.
In other words, the frustration of his demand of recognition is a major disappointment, a major problem for the narcissist—a problem felt not merely as an inconvenience, but as a threat to his fundamental equilibrium, sense of security, and comfort.
In a certain sense, then, that the narcissist feels “entitled” doesn’t make him a narcissist. It is what he feels “entitled to” that is most relevant.
Specifically, it is his sense of entitlement to an undisturbed stream of others’ approval, admiration and recognition that most separates the narcissist from the non-narcissist.
But the narcissist demands more than others’ idealization; he also demands others to idealize. The narcissist needs to idealize others.
For instance, when he finally meets, yet again, the “perfect woman,” he puts her on a pedestal—i.e., he idealizes her. Idealizing her—putting her on a pedestal—makes for thrill and excitement (which, by the way, he misjudges again and again as fulfillment).
After all, he is tasting perfection. He must be pretty special to have the enviable attention of someone so perfectly, admirably beautiful. He looks and feels good thanks to the reflection of her perfection on himself.
One of many problems here is that idealized states are inherently temporary and unsustainable; they don’t hold up permanently; they are fraught all the time with dangers of collapse.
Thus, the narcissist can’t permanently hold his idealizations. And he finds their collapse, over and over again, discouraging and deeply disillusioning. But instead of recognizing the futility of his need, he will blame the formerly idealized object for failing to have remained as perfect, and perfectly satisfying, as he demanded.
The narcissist loses something urgent here, namely the key to his feeling of vitality. Inarticulately, he feels betrayed; and in his sense of betrayal, he feels angry, even enraged.
Enter his “contempt.” The underbelly of the narcissist’s idealizing is his contempt. The narcissist tends to vacillate between experiences of idealization and contempt. In either case (or “state”), others are regarded as objects—objects, we shall see, not quite in the sense that sociopaths regard others as objects.
For the narcissist, others have an obligation to maintain his peace of mind. In the narcissist’s world, it is on others, through their cooperation with his demands, to ensure his ongoing inner comfort and satisfaction. When meeting his demands, others are idealized; when disappointing him, they are devalued contemptuously.
What else does the narcissist demand? The narcissist on pretty much a constant basis demands various forms of reassurance. It may be reassurance of his attractiveness, superiority, special status in a girlfriend’s eyes (and history). He may seek reassurance of his virility, that he is still feared, respected, admired, idealized, and otherwise perceived as impressive.
For the narcissist, such reassurance, even when felt, proves always only temporarily satisfying, and is translated as something like, “I’m okay, for now. I’ve still got it. I’m still viable.”
In his pursuit of reassurance, the narcissist is a very controlling individual. His controlling tendencies arise from his desperation—his desperation, that is, for the reassurance he demands. And desperate people tend to be heedless of the boundaries of those who have what they want.
The narcissist, for instance, may grill his partner controllingly about her ex-boyfriends in order to establish (demand assurances of) his unique, special status with her. Or, he may text her during the day compulsively, in the guise of his interest in, and love, for her, when, in fact, it is not about his love or interest but rather about his demand to know that she is thinking about him that drives his invasive behavior.
He will rationalize his invasiveness as his thoughtfulness and love of her. And he will feel entitled to an immediately reassuring response, anything less than which will activate his anger/rage.
The narcissist’s legendary self-centeredness, to some extent, is a function of the fact that so much, if not all, of his energy is invested in resolving anxious questions about his present standing.
He is vigilantly afraid lest his present, fragilely, and externally supported status be upended, a development he struggles to tolerate. Consumed as he is with obviating this disaster, he has little energy left with which to be genuinely interested in others.
How about the sociopath? What’s his deal?
To begin with, the sociopath lacks the narcissist’s insatiable underlying neediness. Unlike the narcissist, the sociopath’s violating behaviors stem less from a deep insecurity than from his impulsive or calculated greed, and especially his basic view of others as objects, as tools, to be exploited for his entertainment, amusement and ongoing acquisitive agenda.
The sociopath is a more purely exploitative individual than the narcissist. For the narcissist, others are desperately needed, and demanded, as validators. Athough the narcissist will use and exploit others, he does so typically with the ulterior motive of reassuring himself, on some level, of his persisting viability.
For the sociopath, others are his potential “play-things,” their value a function of the gratification that can be extracted from them.
The less validating you are, the less worth you have for the narcissist.
The less exploitable you are, the less worth you have for the sociopath.
Said differently, the narcissist uses others as a means to establish (or reestablish) the sense, and view, of himself, as special, impressive, dominant, compelling, whereas the sociopath uses others more for the pure amusement of it; more for the sheer entertainment of seeing what he can get away with (and how); and/or for the immediate satisfaction of his present tensions, itch, and/or greed.
The term “malignant narcissist” seems to me to describe the sociopath more accurately than the narcissist. This term has been used to describe megalomaniacal individuals whose grandiosity and sinister appetite for control (over others) better reflect, to my mind, psychopathic processes of exploitation.
The “malignant narcissist” is, to my mind, driven by the sociopath’s (or psychopath’s) pursuit of omnipotent control over those he seeks to exploit. He is a power-hungry, often charismatic, ruthless and exploitative personality whose grandiosity serves more psychopathic than classically narcissistic purposes.
Don’t misunderstand me: The malignant narcissist is someone whose most toxic narcissistic qualities have attained malignant status (hence the concept). In the end, however, he is as coldblooded, callous, exploitative and deviant a creature as the most dangerous sociopath.
Does it matter, finally, whether a cult figure like, say, Jim Jones, who led hundreds of his followers to mass suicide, was a “malignant narcissist” or psychopath? Not if you regard the terms, and destructiveness of the personalities, as essentially indistinguishable, as I do.
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2009 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
SurReality,
Perhaps I am wrong, but I detect a bit of intellectual pride in your attitude toward the disordered person in your life. You find his behavior “fascinating.” That attitude–and believe me I know this from experience–is just the sort of thing a “high IQ, high-functioning” psychopath looks for. Lives for, even. Their hatred is so pervasive, and their hubris is so massive, that they are COMPELLED to make fools of EVERYONE they interact with, in some way. This is why they lie even when the truth would be better for them. They MUST deceive. It gives them a rush, a charge, to think that they have “pulled one over” on the world.
It’s the same sort of charge they get by inflicting pain on others, as Rune notes. MRI imaging has shown that their brain’s pleasure center lights up when they successfully deceive someone, or when they witness pain.
Even if you have a genius-level IQ, you are still no match for someone who is DEVOID OF NORMAL HUMAN FEELINGS. You can’t study them. You can’t outsmart them. You can’t trap them with clever wordplay or cross-examination. You can’t get the truth from them. The only thing you can get is HURT and HARMED.
Because, as Kathleen Hawk has noted, your emotions put you at a disadvantage.
Don’t play with the psychopath. He is not worth your time. Better to study tapeworms, or ticks, or some other parasites. They are fascinating in their own way, and they can’t write bad checks.
When I was in Thailand, I watched the snake handlers interact with their cobras. They obviously loved their snakes. They wrapped them around their arms, necks. They kissed them. They loved them. Astoundingly, the snakes seemed to be trustworthy, as long as they were with their own handlers.
I would trust a Burmese cobra before I would trust an S/P.
“I detect a bit of intellectual pride in your attitude”
…and that’s all I’m gonna say – ever.
SurReality,
You might try reading some of the recommened books on spathholes. Alot safer than what you are doing.
Hi Tood,
I totally agree. I wasn’t tauting my intelligence inasmuch as proclaiming how happy I am that I can no longer be harmed by the offender.
I do worry about others, though.
I’m accountable for the interaction — all of it, in my opinion. I’d not agree to have any further interaction, either — because this latest ‘episode’ was by FAR the most bizarre yet. (I think his condition grows worse with his age. He is in his very late 50’s, I’d like to mention.)
I only feel empowered because I’m not emotionally involved as I was 2.5 years ago. Whew!
But, I do take your warning very seriously. I wouldn’t play with this fire again, because I just do NOT know what kind of harm he’s capable of … when he “gets it” that he can no longer play on my emotions. I tend to think that’s when it REALLY gets dangerous? (Am I on track?)
Thanks for responding.
The article in Nov. 10, 2008 New Yorker magazine, “Suffering Souls,” is interesting. You might also google the FBI summit on the shooters in the Columbine high school tragedy. Harris was diagnosed as a psychopath — he was the one everyone thought of as “nice.”
There is something that I really need to talk about. So I will blog it. I do not mean to offend anyone. I am trying to understand the S and if these situations had more of an impact on him, to be meaner because of them? An S is an S no matter what, I realize there are different degrees of an S.
The S that I knew had a relationship/marriage for 18 years or so. The spouse left him for another, of the same sex. Later she told him she knew this was always her. I believe the more bizzarre side of the S’s motivational behavior were contributed by this relationship and how it ended.
Then I came along. He already was madder than heck and had stewed on his past relationship for 5 years. I think this made him more sick with this revenge thing he displayed on me.
Is Opn: Now, take your statement above and change it around … to you being the married person for 18 years and your spouse walked out for another. Would you take anything out on the next person you dated? I don’t think so. I think you would have a heart to heart with the next person you dated and tell them that you feel very vulnerable in X, Y, and Z areas. Not, and I repeat not, abuse the next person you should date.
Believe me when I tell you this … his marriage lasted 18 years because he lied to her too. There is no excuse to abuse anyone. Period. They abuse because they want to. Period.
SurReality:
Maybe I can put a touch more of gloss on the perspective you are seeking. I am a member of Mensa. Yes, have a genius level IQ. And like your ex, I am an attorney. More to the point, I my specialty is criminal defense.
If any body should know that all ex-cons lie and a fair majority are sociopathys, it should be me. But, me, the so-called genius attorney fell for an ex-con who is a sociopath. And I wouldn’t wish what I went through for 15 months on my worst enemy.
If you’re looking for intellectual answers, I suggest you read “Without Conscience” by Robert Hare and “The Sociopath Next Door” by Martha Stout. Also work youcr way through the archives on this site.
That said, I can tell you from personal experience that this, for lack of a better term, science experience you are engaging with is a no-win proposition. The one thing that EVERYBODY on this site can tell you is that there is no winning with sociopaths. No matter how smart and disengaged you think you are, THEY WILL ONLY WIN.
Let’s look at the instance of the check he gave you. Whether or not he owed you the money, he still won. You are still going to be absorbing the costs of depositing a check which had the payment stopped. There is always a cost with a sociopath.
More to the point, no matter how much you avow that you are disengaged from the sociopath in your life, the problem is you are still applying a normal, rational person’s way of aproaching problem solving to somebody who is not wired that way.
The energy you are expending on your 3 to 5 month fliratiions with danger would be better spent on a relationship which has a future. You will never figure out a sociopath and never win with one. Cut your losses and move on.
Is opn:
I am gay. But, I did the straight married thing for awhile. As far as your ex-S’s marriage went, his ex was always gay. She just couldn’t admit it to herself.
She probably stayed in a bad marriage as long as she felt she was getting something from it. I mean, think about it. Every marriage has its trade-offs which most people outside of it have no idea what they are
I suspect his ex finally reached a point in life where she got honest about (a) her sexualiy and (b) the fact that she was married to a sociopath and couldn’t take it anymore.
What your S is mad about is she is the one who discarded him before he could discard her.