Pathologically self-centered individuals, such as sociopaths or narcissists, often project a level of self-confidence that is pathlogically tremendous. This can be a problem for others who, unlike the sociopath, will be prone to empathy and self-reflection, along with which come self-doubt and hence fluctuating, less dependable levels of confidence.
But the pathologically self-centered individual is often seemingly immune to self-doubt and can thus seem implacably, impressively confident. Why?
The answer is suprisingly simple: When your interest in others is principally, if not entirely, about what you can get, or take, from them; when you lack the capacity for, and/or inclination to, genuine, thoughtful self-reflection; and when the meaning, or purpose, of life is fundamentally reduced to the expectation, and pursuit, of continual gratification, you have a prescription not only for pathological self-centeredness, but its frequent concomitant—pathological self-confidence.
Think about it: for such an individual, it is mostly, and sometimes only, about what he wants. And if he knows what he wants, such an individual will feel entitled to it. And his sense of entitlement becomes self-validating—self-validating, that is, of whatever argument, rationalization, or manipulation brings him closer to his demand.
In other words, the pathologically self-centered individual has something very powerful in his favor—conviction. His is the conviction of his entitlement, of his right to have what he wants—whether it’s agreement, an apology, special attention, cooperation, sex, a favor, forgiveness, you name it.
And he wields his sense of conviction powerfully and persuasively—all the moreso if he’s also articulate and glib.
This explains how a sociopath can look you in the eye and blame you for something—even his victimization of you—and yet you struggle to fully disbelieve him. As I just noted, if he is intelligent and glib, he is in an even better position to erode your sense of reality. He can construct positions, however absurd and even confirming of his sociopathic orientation, that nevertheless have just enough superficial plausability to arrest your attention.
Once you’ve been disarmed, even slightly, his impregnably confident assertions, stemming from his pathological self-centeredness, can have a brainwashing influence.
You wonder if you’re not crazy? The “gaslighting effect” is in full throttle. It is disorienting, literally, to have someone present even a ridiculous proposition, demand, or accusation with unwavering confidence and certitude. And the disorienting effect is magnified exponentially when the assertion is simultaneously packaged in superficially intelligent, coherent, “rational”-sounding language. Confidence in one’s sense of reality can wane, and fail, under this combination assault.
This can explain why sometimes extremely intelligent, thoughtful and self-respecting individuals can actually be at greater risk of accepting and tolerating abuse. It can be a case of the exploiter’s pathologically inflated confidence overwhelming the more self-questioning, self-doubting individual’s reality.
(My use of “he” in this article was for convenience’s sake, and not to suggest that females are not capable of the behaviors described. This article is copyrighted (c) 2009 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
Endthepain,
You are welcome, glad to help. Mother is good, I was close to mine’s mother too but have not talked with her since I dumped him. Even though we had promised each other to stay friends no matter what, I really want no ties to him, no information going back.
It’s not your obligation to change the amount. If he can’t pay it, he needs to do a change of circumstances motion.
Good going!
Talking about the self-confidence of the sociopath, I just watched a documentary last night called The Thin Blue Line about a sociopathic cop killer who manages to convince the authorities that his travel companion (who had no prior record) was the killer. In the interviews with David Harris, the sociopath, he was calm, confident, and cool, and very matter-of-fact. He could easily be the cool guy next door that you want to hang out with. My exS also had that exact same quality. What a magnet it is! With the looks, charm, and confidence, they will never be at a loss for new victims. Ugh.
It was my S’s birthday the other day. I deliberately stayed off the reptile site for the entire week, just in case someone started a birthday thread for him and brought him back. I realized that my #1 priority is to get him out of my life and keep him out. Exposing him takes back seat, because it could always bring him back in, even just by association.
Matt, who was this person you had lunch with? I miss so much when I’m off the computer.
Hey, Stargazer:
This guy was a guy who lives around the corner, whom I became friendly with through S. He posted S’s bail when S was arrested and allowed S to move in with him when S was released from prison. He’s a retired attorney, a genuinely interesting and nice guy. He always liked me for being me, independent of S.
Anyhow, I bumped into him on the street a couple of weeks back and he invited me out to lunch the other day. Strictly friends. No romance. I suspect he’s figured out what S is all about. I also suspect that he is of no further use to S since he made it clear to me that he’s been hit hard by the economic collapse — translation — his borrowing window is closed to S.
Nice thing about the lunch — S’s name didn’t come up once.
Matt,
Wouldn’t it be totally ironic if you ended up meeting the love of your life through S? LOL
Seriously, though, sounds like you really have some good boundaries about meeting new friends and keeping them at a friendship level. I suspect if he was still being plagued by S, he would definitely want to talk about it. Obviously, you are both moving on. Towanda!
Hello all…I am still dumbfounded by the fact that in each and everyone’s story and in every article I read, there he is. I have to wonder if they too have a site like this where they can swap stories, learn new methods and so on…now wouldn’t that be an interesting read!…”you should have seen the look on her face, and you know she actually believed me.” he said chuckling. Of course the secretive nature of their existance would in all likelihood stop them from sharing about anything. I know that if I keep things bottled up, I am a wreck..Does the sociopath ever keep anyone abreast of the actual truth? Not nesessarily a co-conspiritor, but someone who may have the real story, and not even realize it. Picture this…the sociopath goes “home” and starts telling his tales of how he stole money from a crippled man and so on. Those listening would most surely be in a state of disbelief, wondering why on earth their friend would make stuff up. They may call him a liar, tell him he needs to get help, but what they will tell each other once he has left again is , Hooray!! In his truth they see only lies. If a sociopath were to actually be truthful, even if he knows no one believes him, does it revive/relieve him in any way? Just another manipulation, perhaps. If telling the truth causes people to call him a liar, he now can assume that he truly is a master.
christie lee:
They know just enough to sprinkle a touch or two of truth in their lies. Silly us glommed onto that touch or two of truth and bought the rest of the lies.
I have watched a sociopath tell the truth and have watched the other persons’ jaw drop. I think they may do this quite a bit. I think they enjoy the ensuing confusion they see on other folks faces when they, with pathological confidence, tell about one of their escapades. Whether the listener assumes it is a lie or not, the teller is reveling in his own sick behavior, because NO ONE ELSE’S OPINION matters to him a single iota.
It could be a kind of unconscious confessional, that is contorted by their disease. A need to purge. I frequently felt that the s I knew needed for whatever reasons to tell me the truth. As a weapon, a bludeoning device? I think in the ‘intimate’ relationship this kind of brutal honesty is used to undermine the confidence and balance of the partner.
In a more social setting, it seems like just another ploy for attention, and to reinforce their self-image as a self-made man or woman. Someone who is above the rules, playing god and making his/her own rules. Powerful beyond comprehension.
I once had a N give me the phone to listen to an irate and incredibly persistent customer of his. The man on the voicemail was telling the N how he ‘just couldn’t DO what he did…it was morally wrong…..bad business……inconsiderate…’ it went on for a good 10 minutes. This guy had called a dozen times, and was at the end of his rope.
And the N was grinning ear to ear while I listened, and I looked at him wondering why the hell he would ‘share’ it with me; as I would have been embarrassed like hell to share that kind of personal failure with anyone.
He is still married to an ex-girlfriend of mine. So we were not that close.
But he didn’t see it that way. He was ‘confident’ in his twisted world of winning and losing. And he had won. He had gotten the best of this other man. And cost that man hundreds of thousands. Felt like he just needed an audience.
Maybe that does provide relief. But from what?
Christi,
Some sociopaths have the fatal flaw that they like to brag about their crimes. I recently watched a documentary about a sociopath who killed a cop and then immediately bragged about it to his friends. When he realized he was about to get turned in for murder, he immediately changed his story and pointed the finger at the driver of the vehicle, a drifter he’d picked up who had no criminal record (the sociopath had a long rap sheet). Don’t you know everyone believed the sociopath and the other guy got a life sentence? To watch the interviews with the real-life sociopath is to watch a master. He is just so smooth and convincing. He doesn’t act crazy or neurotic. He seems very self-assured and totally down-to-earth. You would never doubt for a second whether he is sincere. He sounds very believable. I think to them telling the truth is just incidental. Occasionally, grains of truth get woven into their stories, but it’s all the same to them. It’s just part of the story they use to exploit people. It’s pretty diabolical.
Matt,
I am just catching up and reading about your lunch !!!
Goodness – you had the interest of everyone at peak levels!!!
Glad to hear you had a pleasant time – with no complications.
All these folks looking out for you – it’s sweet to see all the good stuff here among everyone – makes me feel hopeful ….
hello,
this is happening to me right now, at this exact moment, as i sit here and type this. for the last 3 or 4 days i have felt about an inch away from having a nervous breakdown. i have never had one before but i know that this is what is happening to me. i also know it would be my body and minds way of shutting down to protect me.
i am so so very scared. i need help and i don’t know where to turn. i know i am a very sensitive person and i have neurotic tendencies but this is different. i feel disorientated, confused, my sense of reality is clouded, i can’t think straight. now i feel vulnerable when i go out and am among people in grocery stores and on the street.
i am in a strange city on the other side of the country and i feel cut off from everything i know. this guy is making me question my own sanity. he tells me i need counseling and that i am fat, then the next day he will say i am not fat, he has threatened me, basically everything he says is contradictory so i can’t tell what is real and what is not real.
everyone can be mean sometimes, i have experienced it, we all have, but this is different. it is so subtle and so elusive – it is like a mirage of reality and suddenly you are walking around disconnected from all you know and believe. i feel brainwashed. i am scared of his mind. i had a nightmare about him and i woke up with my chest literally bursting out of me like i was going to lose my breath. i have never woke up out of a nightmare like that.
the reason i am so scared is that i have known this guy for over 15 years, he is my cousins ex-boyfriend, and i never stopped to think about any of his behavior and now on and off for the past year i have slowly, very slowly pieced it together and i suddenly now know the truth. i think he knows i am on to him and that is why i am scared. i don’t think he would hurt me physically, but i am terrified of how he tries to manipulate me.
i always made excuses for him and bailed him out of so many rough spots and now he has other friends that are doing that too. but, although they admittedly know something is wrong they have not had the light bulb go off in their head like i have. i guess one day they will or maybe they won’t. i don’t know. but, i guess all that is important is that i know. and now that i know i can’t fake it anymore and pretend that he is just a funny, goofy guy that is always getting himself in trouble and frustrating other people to the point that they pull their hair out. he is a sociopath.
and when you are alone with him, one on one, slowly over time you can see the evilness in him. he has built a character and a persona for himself and i can see right through it. now he suspects that i am on to him and he is getting nervous. i would never tell anyone. all i can try to do at this point is protect myself and keep what i know to myself.
i have many questions, but my main one at this point is: how do you know if you are being gaslighted? i mean how do you really know? i am in the middle of it right now. it has reached a peak, it can’t get any worse then it is right now. please give me some comments or feedback.