A Repeat Performance
I looked around the room trying to assess the damage. With each tear that fell, I could sense a shift in the room. All I could think was, “Oh great, how can I possible convince this entire group of people that this is an act? These tears are not real! These words do not mean anything! He will leave here and continue to abuse and harass this child he cries for right now!”
Instead, I said nothing. Such is the reality of having married and divorced a sociopath. It’s a never ending struggle to maintain my composure when faced with lies, manipulation, deceit, and of course, his repeat performance as the consummate victim.
Minimizing Conflict
I have to admit that when we first met, I was already groomed to feel guilty for things that weren’t my fault. I couldn’t handle the thought of someone being unhappy because of me. If only I’d known that a sociopath is not capable of, well, feeling. Ok, maybe, it would be more accurate to say: A sociopath is not capable of feeling anything that makes him or her a decent human being.
As they say, hindsight is always 20/20 vision. At least I now have that vision looking forward,too. Unfortunately, most people don’t understand what a sociopath is unless they have experienced some type of relationship with one. Which means, those of us who have, spend most of our time trying to avoid drama, reduce the damaging effects, and avoid interaction at all costs while keeping our reputations intact from the ever-present smear campaign.
Pushed Past the Breaking Point
I have been very successful this year at avoiding face-to-face interaction with my ex-husband. But lately, necessity has prevailed, and I have spent several days in prolonged meetings along side my ex-husband as we (I) try to present a united front as we (I) fight for our son to receive the support he deserves in school while he struggles with anxiety disorder.
The entire process has presented a clear, and despicable, portrait of a sociopath. I can honestly say that before this summer, I could almost tolerate being around my ex-husband when I had to.
But, we all have our limits, and as I sat across from this sobbing man who was pouring out a soul he fabricated on the way into the meeting, I reached mine. I was so tired of defending my children against this man as he manipulated sympathy from strangers. I had no more patience for people who were quick to believe his attacks against me without any proof or substantiation. I did not want to look at him or listen to him for one more minute, but I reminded myself that in order to help my son, I had no choice.
At that moment, I felt like something inside of me broke. I started to cry. I never cry in front of strangers, which is one of the reasons I was easily portrayed as the cold-hearted, bitter ex-wife to the sensitive, charming, mistreated ”˜good guy’.
A Flood of Emotion
And once those floodgates opened, there was no turning back. Without meaning or wanting to, I stole the spotlight from my ex-husband mid-performance, and re-directed the audience toward me. I realized my voice was over-powering my ex, I was blurting out everything in a rapid-fire succession, and I couldn’t stop. I don’t particularly like the spotlight, and I was embarrassed to show such emotion, but I guess I was frustrated, and fed up, and exhausted.
I watched this man take everything I had done and claim it as his own work. I listened as he took my words off the page and spoke them as his own. I sat quietly while he gave demands to people I hired to help our children, all the while acting as though he was a different father than the one who refused to spend one cent on anything that had to do with our children’s education.
The meeting adjourned with an extension for the following week. I had one more meeting to attend with him before the weekend, however, and I didn’t think I would make it through as civilly as the previous meetings. But, he must have sensed my simmering anger and frustration, because he stepped back in his role of aggressor for the duration of the meeting.
This was one of those occasions that I could predict quite easily that there would be repercussions.
Constant Need for Control
It didn’t take long. One thing I have learned over the past twenty years of dealing with this man is that he cannot tolerate the thought of not being in control of every situation. Especially, when he thinks I am the one who is in control.
Reality and facts have nothing to do with his perception. I suppose it comes from his own truth-challenged inner being, or maybe from his enjoyment of manipulation and harm of others. Either way, his reality never coincides with the actual reality, which makes arguing with him a complete waste of time and energy. (Another lesson I wish I had learned years ago.)
Predictability, on the other hand, is one thing I can always count on with him. That very night, his revenge tactics began, starting with the son he was so concerned about during his tear-filled performance earlier in the week. He bullied his way into seeing him, removed everyone else from the visit, harassed him with questions and comments that my son was not comfortable talking about, and kept him twice as long as my son thought he would, simply because he felt as though he could.
The next day, the torment continued on my younger son. Ironically, he refused to allow him to see his cousins, despite having requested the boys get together as often as possible with these same cousins just weeks earlier. It was a confusing and nonsensical situation for onlookers, but to me and my children, we knew exactly what he was doing, and why.
Projecting His Behavior Onto Others
He enjoys playing the puppet-master. He orchestrates a scene, only to change the rules and throw everyone off balance, relishing the control and soaking in the satisfaction of knowing he has disrupted, inconvenienced, and hopefully, upset everyone else involved.
We also knew this was a direct reaction to what he perceived as his son’s refusal of him the week before, opting to go to his cousins’ championship games rather than sleep over at his father’s house (a very uncommon request by my son, I might add). But, try to explain that to anyone who doesn’t know my ex-husband, and we would quickly appear to be bitter, alienating, controlling, vindictive individuals.
Hmm, everything he is quick to say about others, sounds an awful lot like what he actually is. Projecting is something my ex-husband does very well, and it is usually a good indicator of what he is planning at that moment. Lately, we have noticed that he seems more desperate to try to exert control, and he definitely has been more outspoken, rather than hiding behind others
Control Slips Away
It’s also becoming more apparent that his children are growing stronger and healthier and more secure every day. This is a real threat, because soon, they will be able to stand up to him and everyone defending him. They will also be able to decide on wether or not they visit with him, and on what terms. I guarantee that once he is not the one in charge of the visits, he will no longer want any scheduled visits. He will try to plan some ”˜spontaneous’ get togethers that have been calculated to be as disruptive as possible for everyone, except him.
What he doesn’t realize is that while he stays in his static, prefabricated, un-evolved character, the rest of us are changing and growing and moving on. We will no longer be the unwilling players in his tiresome games, because each day brings us closer to independence from his legal hold on the boys. Then, when he is drowning in his sea of false tears, there won’t be anyone around to enjoy his performance, except his own shallow reflection.
It is never a waste of time arguing with someone if you have a reasoned, cogent and sensible argument based on truth.
This sounds to me like a sociopath trying to make out somebody else is a sociopath. Why? because her arguments are not logical and reasoned but instead rely on manipulating the readers emotions. Instead of reasoned arguments she uses attacks on his personality. The sociopath’s victim is acting out of frustration and anger and playing into her hands.
She does not want to look at him or listen to him because she just wants to get rid of him so she can carry on in control of the children and living her secret life undiscovered, by discrediting him.
This article is very confusing, because sociopaths do not behave like this man, they are 100 times more subtle and pernicious…
Respondent,
What an appalling comment to make. This is a site designed to share insights into the mindset and modus operandi of sociopaths as well as a forum for providing those of us who have been victimised by these animals with support and understanding that is almost impossible to obtain from those who have never experienced the insidious and relentless actions of a spath.
As a father of three daughters, one with mild developmental issues, having battled the sociopathic mother for over 8 years, I can completely relate to Quinn’s experiences. It doesn’t matter how cogent, reasoned and grounded in facts your arguments may be, they are always wasted on a spath who is never interested in reality, only in winning an argument because of their insatiable desire to win no matter the subject matter. It is always about control for them.
All the best Quinn. I completely relate to you and wish you and your sons well!!
Thank you DadandThreeGirls,
I wish you well in your struggles with the ex-spath,too. It is a draining and daunting task we face, and I’m sure your daughters love and appreciate you for being the unconditional source of love they deserve and for keeping them safe.
Thank you so much for your comments and for reading my article, you could not have summarized the dealings with a sociopath any better! Much appreciated 🙂
Quinn
Thank you for this Quinn, I appreciate all your insights. Here in New Zealand we say Kia kaha, which means stay strong (in an affirming way) As for what respondent says about spaths being subtle, once you know (or your eyes have been forced open) they are about as subtle as a sledgehammer!! I see it now so clearly and I feel it in my gut too.
Thank heavens I didn’t have children with mine, this article makes me so grateful for that. The very best of wishes to those of you who have
Nicely said 🙂 thanks for the smile-
Quinn
Respondent I beg to differ, responding with a reasoned, cogent and sensible argument based on truth is a complete waste of time and energy if the other is unreasonable, unsound, insensible and dishonest as the sociopath I was involved with was and many others from what Ive read on here have experienced also.
Realising this was for me very freeing and eventually healing
Don’t flatter yourself. Spaths are not subtle, unless they have reason to think they must be. Once the game’s up, they don’t bother and just be flagrant. Spaths are lazy and only do the work NEEDED. Once they have the control they are desperate for or are with uninformed ppl, they do the least they can get away with. Spaths are paranoid and think unless they know the innermost dealings of a person, that person is hiding something…a “secret life undiscovered” and may someday try to “discredit him”.
If discrediting was your only fear, you wouldn’t be worrying about “attacks on his personality”. Of course she’s attacking a SICK, Mentally Ill personality! Deviant behavior is very often DANGEROUS to others. Education allows us to skirt personalities like you. Thanks for being the show & tell for today’s lesson.
Dear Respondent,
I believe that your comments may, in fact, be more believable if were I to engage in these baiting remarks.
Thank you for reading my article.
Quinn
That was actually my first, fleeting response. It is another example of how the cynical perception is ingrained in us after years of torment and abuse by someone so manipulative. I actually responded to the comment as if I were responding to my ex, which made it very easy to ignore 🙂
Hi Quinn. Yes, I recognised the grey stone response you provided to respondent’s post, something that I too have become very accustomed to doing as a conditioned and auomated response over the years. You can’t give them anything to feed off.
I battled 5 years with my ex spath before finally ‘working her out’ which proved invaluable for the ensuing 3 year custody battle. After nearly half a million in legal fees and almost full time work on my behalf along with tremendous support from my family I ultimately prevailed in gaining 90% time with my young girls.
I took an awful beating financially and emotionally in dealing with her outrageous allegations but the overwhelming evidence I was able to compile got me through.
I’ve since discovered, however, that’s not the end of it. She uses her limited time with the girls to devastating effect at times, necessitating additional expenses for child psychologists. This is shaping as a life long battle but I’m learning to live with it and move on positively with my life. My desire to ensure my girls grow into happy, emotionally secure and confident young women steels my resolve.
Your last statement says it all, and it is why you will be successful in your resolve. As my son’s counselor said a few weeks ago- it will always be something with my ex, his entire life goal is to destroy me, and my reality is that I have to be prepared, but not live my life in fear of the next attack.
My situation is similar to yours, with the exception that one of my sons still has to see his father twice each week, which is heart wrenching in itself, but as you noted, the damage they cause in a short amount of time to our children is devastating.
Well, I guess I will always have plenty of ‘inspiration’ for my writing 🙂
Quinn
Respondent was kind of obvious. Although, it could have been submitted by the one I (or any other person on this forum) was with. Just sounds like typical spath salad. The statement about them being 100 times more subtle and pernicious must apply in some cases though. The one I was with was like that. That’s what made him so good/bad at what he did.
If I had a dime for every time my ex-spath said ” this is confusing” it is always his segway into a full dissection of how my understanding of EVERYTHING is terribly wrong.
I have been the ex of a spath for 11 years now and he is also an attorney with this assumed legitimacy. He is a drug addict ( but of course it’s medical even though he started at 14) and an alcoholic. He has founded cases of mental abuse to our daughter however, he was set up by the entire DHS staff and I was the ringleader. If I had that much power I would not use it to waste my time on him.
It is so hard to stay strong against his lies and suffocating control, I can just never get away. However…like Quinn said, there is predictability with him and I can always count on him to be the spath that he is. Slowly very very slowly he is being exposed.
There are others that have been affected by his lies and grievous actions and they have contacted me and the notes compared are astonishing. As my daughter likes to say, “HE is CRAY CRAY”…
I too thought that this was Quinn’s ex responding above! Having key loggers installed on my computers without my knowledge, and an iphone that he had installed spyware on, I am always suspicious of responses like this. And like everyone else has stated, my ex spath behaves so much like Quinn’s that I often think she and I were married to the same man.Quinn honey, I totally understand what you mean about being prepared for dealing with this for the rest of your life , as it really is all that motivates these people. It never ceases to amaze me how he will create drama or antagonize me for no other reason than to try and engage me into a battle with him! Thank you for sharing your experiences and your insight with us.
IN-Fidelity INV.
My Ex sounds Identical,he had no interest in the kids unless in court! ,making false accusations of parental alienation throughout the 6years.This was a distraction from the $$millions he ended up keeping.He claimed he had the power in our court! so our fair judge was switched for a spath female who followed his agenda 100%. So he got my marital assets while I’m in debt to lawyers.All his lies and abuse were overlooked!! (SPATHS help each other as long as they are not going for the same job)
Hes a president in FIDELITY Investments and has conned his way throughout life.He is an evil, vindictive, controlling,abusive man, under a lambs suit.Thank god he’s out of my life in most ways! Even if he got away with millions, I say sanity is priceless. The kids are aware of his mentality by seeing his actions and denial of all truths.But its not easy to see under his mask unless they are truly aware of talented sociopaths. He is evil and “stirs the pot” so others get in a lot of trouble while he watches and enjoys the showdown.He has said I can make you disappear for a few $$ in India”thats sick.. money certainly talks in our courts!
Wow!
We had a visitor from the ‘other side’! So obvious. What a laughable post. Bunch spath-salad indeed.
Thanks for another completely insightful and revealing article Quinn. I found myself cheering for you and your boys.
Slim
“Groomed to feel guilty for things that weren’t my fault”…boy does that bring back the memories. One thing I became responsible for was traffic. I became hyper aware of traffic conditions and if I saw brake lights ahead, I would become a nervous wreck, waiting for the wrath. Of course, when I became nervous and apologetic about the traffic (could that be any crazier?), he would attack me for being that way, which was a way HE created. I recall renting the movie Crash after it won the academy award, not knowing anything about it, but knowing that he had a wish to see all academy award winning movies. He took a dislike to it within the first 10 minutes, turned it off and ranted at me for an hour, questioning if it was right to be in a relationship with me if I would select such a movie. I remember feeling outraged and apologetic at the same time. A couple of years later, he casually mentioned that we had never seen that movie and we should get it…I asked him if he was crazy. I guess he remembered the incident, since I got “in trouble” for being too touchy. Thank goodness I’m starting to forget about this stuff.
while i didnt feel guilty for such things, such things he would rant about. STUPID!! he thot he shud be the only one allowed to drive or at least carry a gun for drivers who didnt know how to drive. which wud be … everyone else…
EVERY disagreement we had (i.e. was it sunny outside?) turned into listing and raging over ONCE AGAIN, any and all offenses he had against me. it bored the F out of me as he cudnt even come up with new “wrong things” i did
i rly think hanalei, u and i were with the same man :p
My heart literally hurts for those of you who have an ex-spath with visitation or custody, since mine has none. Believe me, I thank God for this every day, since I know how rare it is. Mine is also an attorney, but he just happens to have been too stupid in his actions, and I documented the hell out of everything from the minute we split. Thank God for the friends who advised me to, and pushed me to go buy a digital voice recorder, and pushed me to record every syllable with him from the minute we split. For anyone who might benefit from my advice, No Contact means even if you have children together. Everything can be handled with emails and text msgs. Screen-shot all the text msgs or keep a software installed that logs all text msgs. My BFF told me this one… stay calm in all conversations with Ex, and assume every word will be used against you in court. I was able to hold my tongue, only because she warned me about this (otherwise, I coulda been ripping him a new one every day). I also crafted certain conversations so that I could record his admissions of prostitute use, and his biz associates who were involved in these activities with him. He’d confessed to it all to two counselors, so I got him to talk about it again, as I recorded the phone calls. I will also say that I have, so far, spent just as much on my PI as I have on my atty, but it’s because I found a phenomenal PI who has been worth it. Every penny so far has been worth it, since Ex has no contact with my children. My kids have had 2 years to heal, with a counselor, and no involvement with him. I can vouch for the fact that NO dad is better than a spath dad, no question! I only wish Judges all understood this. I hope this helps someone.
Dear Elizabeth, thank you for your advice, but I was wondering…how did you manage to record your X and use it? Is it not illegal to record someone these days without their consent/permission?
I would love for my X to be out of my daughter’s life, but again he is doing it all for showing his the “doting father” to his new GF…family and colleagues who believe I am the heartless BITCH..(obviously he cheated on me with her) but I AM THE WRONG ONE…who “wants to withhold him from his child”….all lies and BS! I was careful not to withhold him for legal reasons…BUT if I could just get him out of my life I would be better off…(he left and did not ask about her in a month, and she was only 7 months old)… but HE is the victim, and then lied about asking about her”..he lies about everything, but unfortunately he does not visit prostitutes (that I know of). His family all cover for him, and I am in a double smear campaign—and this will carry on for years to come I know! ïŒ
Keep the faith-their masks always come off, you just keep strong and keep paying attention! Document, document, document!