Geraldo Rivera provided his analysis of the ”¦ Natalee Holloway disappearance case. Prime suspect Joran Van Der Sloot has given a series of interviews proclaiming his total innocence. “The lie that he has fastened on,” Rivera pronounced, “is that he took her on the beach but didn’t have sex because he didn’t have a condom, then left her on the there. It’s at odds with the story he told earlier, but as he tells this story he becomes more confident and more glib. I believe there is a pathological aspect to this man.” The Factor concurred that Van Der Sloot seems psychologically unbalanced. “I can’t figure out why he wants do these interviews because he comes off as a sociopath. If he makes one slip-up he’s done. It looks to me like he’s a danger junkie – he likes this cat-and-mouse game, it’s exciting to him” (source)
Does it matter whether or not Joran van der Sloot is a sociopath/psychopath? Why not just be satisfied that he is a “criminal” and an evil person?
Yes, it does matter, because when dealing with a sociopath the usual rules of human interaction do not apply. Anyone who treats a sociopath as they would a non-disordered person is likely to get burned and to be implicated in the evil that sociopath does. Joran van der Sloot’s story illustrates this principle.
Joran’s father, Paulus, was an attorney many believed knew the truth about what happened to Natalie Halloway, the first young woman Joran was accused of murdering. Paulus strongly supported his son after the murder accusations first arose, and was even charged himself as an accessory after the fact, though the charges were dropped.
Paulus van der Sloot died of a sudden cardiac death last February and so did not live to see the result of his enabling of his son. Joran’s mother, Anita, is now alone to deal with the repercussions of the family’s enabling.
The lesson to be learned is that if you have a family member who has been charged with a serious crime, and that family member has psychopathic personality traits, or is diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder, DO NOT HELP THAT PERSON IN ANY WAY.
Over and over again, we have said on this website that sociopaths are able to do evil in a large part because they are enabled by family members and various governmental agencies- including the judicial system and law enforcement. Well, law enforcement does it again.
It turns out that the FBI wired Joran $25,000 as part of a “sting” operation, as they were trying to arrest him for shaking down Natalie Halloway’s parents. According to former agent Paul Lindsay, “the FBI formula for extortion stings is, “set ’em up, pay ’em off, get ’em to talk, never let them leave the room without handcuffs on.” Because the FBI did not understand the psychology of their suspect, they let him leave the room and were out smarted by a sociopath.
The lesson to be learned here is that next time the FBI wants to sting a sociopath they should contact Lovefraud so that Donna and I can tell them not to give a sociopath any money”¦ that is unless they want the sociopath to use the money to kill someone.
One more lesson to be learned from the van der Sloot case is that media psychiatrists should stop confusing people with their false categorical statements. I came across this analysis of van der Sloot by psychiatrist Keith Ablow (who I have criticized before):
“Serial killers whether organized or disorganized are always made, never born. Having interviewed dozens of killers myself, I can tell you that it turns out that evil never appears ”˜out of the womb’.”
Well, I knew Rodney Alcala, and I can tell you that he was born with a disposition to become a serial killer that was present in his early childhood. Serial killers are both born and made. Evil is in the genes of some people but like many other traits it needs the right soil to take root and blossom.
Yeah, I emailed her the last time, and this time, too.
Last time, she said my usernames might be getting deleted as spam. I haven’t heard anything yet about this recent thing, though.
I’ll keep using the purewaters so you guys know who I am.
The strange part is that the system is deleting my username… not an issue with the password.
I have only been made aware of the Van Der Sloot case (and his entire existence ) through LF. This creature is terrifying.
Its rather depressing to see him ‘enjoying his fame’, it’s depressing to see the media enjoy the circus he is creating and also depressing that any psychiatrist deamed fit to publicly comment would say “Serial killers whether organized or disorganized are always made, never born. Having interviewed dozens of killers myself, I can tell you that it turns out that evil never appears ’out of the womb’.” as far as I knew the jury was out on a definitive.
*Big sigh.*
(going to read the comments now.)
So depressing:(
I have to say – that I too find sympathy with the enablers still (although ‘they’ P me off because of WHAT they enable) – these f***kers are so good at screwing everyone.
Interesting (to me) is his over exaggerated hand movements in the police interview clip After the one as he entered the room with he the coffee cups… it’s real familiar:( underlining that in my spath spotter book.
I wasn’t always sure what was meant by having poor impulse control, but now I’m getting it. I watched the clip that Rosa posted and read the comments that the interviewer relayed about Joran, what Joran told him after the wine incident occurred, that Joran claimed he just couldn’t seem to help himself, throwing the wine into the interviewer’s face. He was mad about how the interview was going and he reacted (impulsively) by getting back at the interviewer, thus the wine in the face. It seems that he was unable to control his response – it just happened, the impulse being too strong internally.
Dear Bluejay,
This is just MY opinion on “impulse control”—I see it kind of two ways. One is the “throwing the wine” in someone’s face because you got pithed and just did it before you thought.
Two is that I walk by the bank and think “There’s a lot of money in the bank. I’d like to have a lot of money” (impulsive thinking) so instead of SUPRESSING that IMPULSE to robh the bank, I go home and get a ski mask and a gun and go rob the bank.
Either way, I have ALLOWED my IMPULSES to rule my behavior by not looking at the CONSEQUENCES of my actions fully before I do them and not letting the higher order of the brain put some logic and sense to the impulsive actions.
If that makes any sense. Either way, the psychopaths are “impulsive” and sometimes BOTH ways.
OxDrover,
That’s a great explanation, helping me to understand the concept of poor impulse control. Now, I understand. Thanks.
There are other forms of poor impulse control such as over-spending, gambling and domestic violent. Since sociopaths are charming and very capable of hiding their character defects, these types of impulse control problems may not surface until too late for the “victim.” Would anyone date a self-confessed gambling addict/spouse abuser? However, I think poor impulse control if a fundamental trait of the sociopath, stemming from their predatory nature.
While not all sociopaths over spend, gamble, and physically abuse partners, all are emotional abusers. Early on, the emotional abuse may be subtle, but with honest retrospection, the emotional abuse from the sociopath was present from the relationships’s beginning, perhaps in the form of a statement or action that left you thinking WTF?
I was witness to several of these WTF impluse control moments from my x-sociopath Jamie. The first was when he walked out on me in a very nice restaurant, simply because I asked him back to my apartment after dinner. I apparently “offended his British reservedness…” The second occurred at my apartment. I had prepared a very nice setting, appropriate for the upcoming Christmas holiday. A small tree, some candles, a nice pie… Jamie scolded me for leaving the candles burning, scoffed at the “Charlie Brown” Christmas tree and was particularly angry at the pie: “I told you I am not into sweets…”
Notice too how in both instances I was somehow to blame and at the time, I viewed Jamie’s behavior as part of his charm and a “normal” reaction to me going moving too fast. Only after coming here and fully understanding all the traits of a sociopath did these subtle but memorable events finally make sense to me, as I was hitting too close to home regarding something Jamie was hiding…
Well, if the professionals need a guinea pig to pick a psychopath’s brain apart. I’m raising my hand and gladly volunteering my EX!
OxDrover and behind_blue_eyes,
My h-spath is impulsive when it comes to money. He cannot save money, lacking “money sense”, infuriating me. It would boggle my mind that he was incapable of managing a bank account. I have experienced more than I care to in connection to this disorder, sociopathy.
There are thousands of ways in which they lack impulse control, they are the “poster children” for I WANT WHAT I WANT AND I WANT IT NOW!”
Delayed gratification is not their strong point! LOL
Jamie’s making hateful remarks about your tree, your pie, etc. is so typical. Henry’s X did the same thing. Jamie had NO tree, so he had to ridicule YOURS, and so on. SO typical of these creeps.
Wini, just be sure no one gets the jar labeled “abby normal” for the brain for the monster they are putting together in the next surgery. ha ha