The only constant in life is that very little remains constant. None of us know exactly what our futures hold. This is true for everyone, regarding most aspects of life. However, when recovering from relationships with psychopathic individuals or those with psychopathic features, it is an especially important concept for us to understand.
Why? The reality is that sometimes they like to hold on to us. While the notion seems to defy logic, it is extremely common. As a result, we must be ready for what this brings, so that we do not allow them to get the best of us or hinder our recoveries. Their inabilities to release us can rapidly turn bizarre and cause significant harm, emotional or otherwise, unless we are prepared.
In addition to accepting that they have difficulty letting go, we also must learn that they often disguise their strange methods of staying connected, frequently, using seemingly innocent or benign measures. However, these methods are little more than further attempts at maintaining power and control over us. Since many do not understand or recognize this, it is critical that we do.
Failure to realize and accept this, may result in serious unrest or place us in precarious situations. But with an understanding, we are better able to handle whatever comes our way in stride, eliminating or lessening any potential damage.
Weren’t they the ones who wanted out?
Well…perhaps. This “can’t let go” concept can be a difficult one to grasp, especially when many of their behaviors created the appearance that it was they who chose to end their relationships with us. We cannot help but wonder why they are unable to move on since they were the ones who were “done.”
It is important to understand that while they may have, in fact, wanted to leave their relationships with us, they wanted to make their exits on their terms. They may discard quite freely, usually once they have the next “con” safely secured, but unless everything goes according to their plans, we can usually expect that they will take some sort of punitive actions against us.
Some of us are fortunate to escape “successfully” (translation; we were “adequately destroyed,” financially, emotionally, etc.) Unless this is the case, however, their departures rarely mean that they are “finished” with us. This is especially true if they feel that the endings were not to their liking, or the initial destruction they caused was only minimal. It is quite dichotomous, but it is, nonetheless, how they tend to operate.
Why does this happen?
Sometimes, their disdain for us, what we represent, or what we have makes it difficult for them to sever ties. They may have trouble releasing their grudges for the “injustices” they perceive we caused. When this occurs, and it occurs very frequently with these individuals, harmful consequences can follow closely behind. Remember, these “injustices” could be as simple as our continued existence.
Also, these are individuals who feel that societal norms and the laws of the land do not apply to them. They want what they want and they are often willing do whatever it takes to seek what they see as “justice.”
As a result, we must remain vigilant, but still go on living. If they feel they have a “score” to settle, we simply must ride out their tantrums (provided there is no direct threat of physical danger.) Our actions, one direction or the other, may or may not impact their choices. Thus, we must use each of their stunts as opportunities to grow. I know this may sound very difficult to those currently feeling pain, but our only other option (engagement) benefits them and places unnecessary stress on us.
What happens when they just don’t stop?
Enter a variety of truly disturbing behaviors on their parts. As our health and healing increases, their behaviors tend to deteriorate. Why? They sense that they are losing their control over us. Unfortunately, they still want it. Typically, we begin to heal, in spite of what we may have experienced. This is difficult for them to process and accept.
In some instances, a strange type of role reversal seems to occur. For a time, we may have been the ones who wished to maintain or preserve the relationships. We were probably quite “invested” or had others to consider. Since we assumed (mistakenly) that our associations were genuine, we may have pushed to make things work, even in the end.
As long as we remained engaged and miserable, unable to figure out why we were unable to “fix” or rectify matters, they were happy. They liked that we were conflicted and questioning our emotions. We talked, wrote, and defended ourselves ad nauseam. As we did, they remained disinterested, ignored us, and behaved in superior fashions. Why? They still held the power.
However, over time, we recognized how they operated and learned about them, as well as ourselves, in the process. As our healing progressed, we slipped from their grasps, regardless of what they did to us or accused us of. They noticed their controlling behaviors yielding diminishing returns. Thus, they became further driven to regain their positions. They looked for ways to push us harder in order to keep us involved in their strange games.
Stalking and harassment, of various forms, often increase exponentially in this phase. This may occur in person, electronically, through the court system, through children’s matters, financially, or any other ways that they can access us.
What do we think as this continues?
As the months or years pass, we begin to see their desperate attempts at control as ridiculous. We may wonder at what point is enough, enough? Those on the periphery often ask the same. However, it is likely that they fail to realize that their quests for our destruction have grown old. There should come a time when even they realize that their “gigs” are up.
In spite of that, they often continue. They repeat behaviors that once worked, even if those behaviors no longer bring results. This further illustrates that there may be little carry over or ability to process consequences or care about them if they are able.
How should we react?
We must view this as simply one more hurdle to jump; nothing more than one more aspect of the disorder (provided their engagement attempts are non-life threatening. If they are, contact the police and/or seek legal counsel immediately.) When we realize and accept this, we allow ourselves to be prepared for anything. The reality is that we may have to endure manipulative correspondence or unnecessary trips to court from time to time.
We must review the following as much as necessary until the thoughts become automatic; we know that it is important to try to move forward with our lives after any type of significant change. When these changes occur in conjunction with severing relational ties, especially with these individuals, that may prove more challenging.
Collectively, they are unusually intent on revenge, especially if we disconnected more in-tact than they felt was acceptable. If they view any of our successes (which, again, can sometimes be defined as our mere survival) as threats, we can bank on the fact that we will meet with serious and potentially harmful retaliation that has the potential to continue, at least intermittently, for quite some time.
Regardless, we must respond with grace. Sometimes, that may come in the form non-responses or those handled by third parties. We must continue to enforce boundaries; personal and otherwise. If going “no contact” is possible, do it. If not, communicate only in fact. It is their choice to remain focused on our destruction. We, however, see and know all (or are learning) about what motivates them. Our knowledge will empower us.
Even if we no longer provide reinforcement for their behaviors, it seems to take extended periods of time for that to register. Therefore, we must persist. We must not allow ourselves to take their words or actions personally. Again, this too, is about them, not us.
Linda, this article comes at a time when I needed to read the strong truths that apply directly to my current struggles.
You used the word, “grace,” to describe how I need to approach the management of the continued efforts to punish and control. I’d also like to add “dignity.” They are both attributes to which I aspire. For me, all of these recent and former spath experiences robbed me of my grace and dignity because I didn’t realize how completely the destructions ran. Once it gets down to the point where I realized what I was dealing with, all “normal” and appropriate responses had long since departed and were replaced by carefully constructed “insanity,”
Thank you so much for this empowring and informative article.
Brightest blessings.
Linda,
Thank you for this article. My ex continues to “stalk” me. He refuses to take no contact for an answer and turned up at my place of work last week. Although I don’t feel threatened it is obviously disturbing to say the least!!
This is just what I needed to read. I want to understand why. Why he continues. When I pointed out to him that he was disregarding what I want, he replied “I don’t really care”
Thanks again. I will be saving this article to read and re read. the bloody cog diss is exerting it’s pressure today.
🙁
Strongawoman, I laughed when I read your comment that when you told him that he was disregarding what you wanted he said “I really don’t care.”—that IS his point, he is DISREGARDING what you want. If you wanted him there he would NOT be there. LOL
Hang in there and remember, “this too shall pass.” (((hugs)))
Oxy,
Gosh, aint that the truth!!
“If you wanted him there he would NOT be there. LOL”
The more I attempt to free myself from him, the more he wants to tighten that grip. I was good supply.
Thanks for the hugs and encouragement. Means a lot Ox.
I think narcissists are very clever at recognising that their frustrations can be diverted by frustrating others.
Sometimes I used to feel like my ex was trying to borrow my personality, get inside my psyche…he would often start to tell me something ( in a hectoring lecturing way ) which had originated from me, and which initially he was bored with or disinterested in.
He leeches all the energy out of every situation and though he can be charming and witty, even generous, the price is always too high.
When is enough enough? If I had one piece of advice to anyone who thinks they are involved with someone with a personality disorder- even if you’re not ready to give up on the relationship yet don’t have a child with them.
You already have what amounts to a child and a lifelong tantrum in a narcissist!
It has taken me years of pain and difficulty to rear just one child within the shifting sands of this family; I dearly wanted more children but realised that we were so lucky not to have raised a damaged child, a child with a different personality might have been so badly affected.
Fortunately this coincided with the period of life when ex decided he didn’t want sex any more, so it would have been impossible anyway….incidentally when finally I got to the point where I was no longer interested in sex myself: he decides it’s now his life’s goal and I am so prudish!
Shifting sands…
Re they won’t let go, or only on their terms, I have always thought my ex has a great fear of abandonment, of people seeing inside his soul and rejecting him. He knows I took my marriage vows seriously and that I will always on some level be kind to him but unlike in other relationships that conflicts him: on the one hand it gives him ammunition maybe to hurt me, but on the other he’s resentful because he doesn’t have real feelings and real commitments or values himself.
In some ways it’s an inversion of what made the narcissist. They were put on a pedastal but not loved and they put us on a pedestal then try to do the same mindgames they felt…sometimes I felt like I was his experiment!
Both parties invest so much I think it’s hard on both sides to truly let go- and because no one else understands, or few people do, it’s hard to work through.
No contact is only possible if you don’t have kids together, but people can still get hooked back other ways, shared other family, businesses, property etc
The best outcome is probably they get bored with you and move on to find an updated version of their ideal to start over with…then that person occupies all their time.
My ex’s new woman is unknowingly protecting me from him because she keeps up a barrage of insistence he limits contact with me. She’s terrified already that he’ll leave her and come back to me, and I am sure he keeps up that impression to keep her in a state of panic….when at first I realised this complete stranger actually hated me I was shocked but it’s turned out to be a blessing in disguise.
One day I’ll be the person she’ll really want to talk to about it all I am sure- the only person who will truly understand what she’s been through by then.
Fool me once, go back and read the articl.e about “Gray Rock” .it is the PERFECT way for you to interact with him and will make him get bored with you because he will no longer get any supply…it is just BORING to them eventually.
I found it it is
http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/index.php?s=%22gray+rock%22
Great article. Very timely for me. I am still settling in from our relocation. There is so much drama here with my family, it’s mind blowing. At times I thoroughly regret moving away, but when reading an article like the above, I fully remember WHY it was so important for my well being and that of my little one.
I’m anxious about next month, because the restraining order will end, and he WILL contact me via email if I don’t delete my final account that he knows the address to. I’ve been on a time crunch trying to get it all done, and that last email account is a thorn in my side. I’m afraid to lose any irreplaceable document, etc. I know I can just disregard his message WHEN it comes through, but I would rather not see anything from him.
We have been safely relocated for almost three months and I still wake up throughout the night afraid he is in the apartment. Prior to meeting Spathy, I had been diagnosed with PTSD and sought a lot of different types of treatment, including an inpatient program during several months of my pregnancy. I’ve decided to return to counseling. This may sound crazy, but I am so grateful that I came back from military deployment with PTSD. I suspect I have always had it from childhood abuse, but no clinician had ever diagnosed it. It wasn’t until I couldn’t adjust well to normal life after coming back from overseas and I went to a Vet Center to talk to someone that I have made any progress in therapy.
I meet my new counselor in a few weeks, on the 3 month anniversery of our move away. I’m kinda corny that way, but it means something special to me. I can’t explain quite why, but I get teary-eyed typing that.
I want so much to be okay and to be happy, for me yes, but so so much for my little girl. She is learning about emotions (she’s quite the precocious child, I must add) and every day this week she has looked at me and said “Mommy sad.” I feel just awful. I have been forcing myself to take her to do fun things, and when I am smiling, I ask her if she is happy and I say “Mommy happy!” I’m trying so hard to be normal but I feel so intermittently numb and then just sad and depressed.
I’m making strides for our life despite it all. We have been in our new place for about three weeks now. I have connected to as many veteran resources in the community as I can find and I’m trying to get myself back into a grad program ASAP while also job and day care hunting. Can’t imagine where all the stress and anxiety is coming from 🙂 Oh yeah, and I’m dealing with the NPD mother!!!
Just needed to check in here and vent a bit… I could use some quality support from our LF family…
Dear LPMarie,
It’s healthy for your daughter to see you upset. It’s only natural to want to protect her from your anxiety but in my exp it will make you closer and her more protective of you when she realises how much you have sacrificed to keep her safe and well. You sound like a very sensible young woman and, under the circumstances, perfectly justified in feeeling anxious.
As far as the contact is concerned, could you block him from emailing you if you know his email address?
I’m sorry you’ve got to go through this ….and it seems you’re doing it singlehandedly. I’m sure others here will have some good advice for you to keep youself safe…..sometimes we just need reassurance.
Good luck, my dear. Keep your chin up.
Thanks, Strongawoman! I appreciate your reassurance. I tried to find a way to block him on Gmail, but there doesn’t seem to be a way… At least not that I could find! Hey, if anyone knows how to block email on Gmail, please let me know 🙂
I dont know bout gmail. Am sure someone will know on here though. I spose you can’t just delete your account? Or open a new one? How bout contacting the gmail provider?