The only constant in life is that very little remains constant. None of us know exactly what our futures hold. This is true for everyone, regarding most aspects of life. However, when recovering from relationships with psychopathic individuals or those with psychopathic features, it is an especially important concept for us to understand.
Why? The reality is that sometimes they like to hold on to us. While the notion seems to defy logic, it is extremely common. As a result, we must be ready for what this brings, so that we do not allow them to get the best of us or hinder our recoveries. Their inabilities to release us can rapidly turn bizarre and cause significant harm, emotional or otherwise, unless we are prepared.
In addition to accepting that they have difficulty letting go, we also must learn that they often disguise their strange methods of staying connected, frequently, using seemingly innocent or benign measures. However, these methods are little more than further attempts at maintaining power and control over us. Since many do not understand or recognize this, it is critical that we do.
Failure to realize and accept this, may result in serious unrest or place us in precarious situations. But with an understanding, we are better able to handle whatever comes our way in stride, eliminating or lessening any potential damage.
Weren’t they the ones who wanted out?
Well…perhaps. This “can’t let go” concept can be a difficult one to grasp, especially when many of their behaviors created the appearance that it was they who chose to end their relationships with us. We cannot help but wonder why they are unable to move on since they were the ones who were “done.”
It is important to understand that while they may have, in fact, wanted to leave their relationships with us, they wanted to make their exits on their terms. They may discard quite freely, usually once they have the next “con” safely secured, but unless everything goes according to their plans, we can usually expect that they will take some sort of punitive actions against us.
Some of us are fortunate to escape “successfully” (translation; we were “adequately destroyed,” financially, emotionally, etc.) Unless this is the case, however, their departures rarely mean that they are “finished” with us. This is especially true if they feel that the endings were not to their liking, or the initial destruction they caused was only minimal. It is quite dichotomous, but it is, nonetheless, how they tend to operate.
Why does this happen?
Sometimes, their disdain for us, what we represent, or what we have makes it difficult for them to sever ties. They may have trouble releasing their grudges for the “injustices” they perceive we caused. When this occurs, and it occurs very frequently with these individuals, harmful consequences can follow closely behind. Remember, these “injustices” could be as simple as our continued existence.
Also, these are individuals who feel that societal norms and the laws of the land do not apply to them. They want what they want and they are often willing do whatever it takes to seek what they see as “justice.”
As a result, we must remain vigilant, but still go on living. If they feel they have a “score” to settle, we simply must ride out their tantrums (provided there is no direct threat of physical danger.) Our actions, one direction or the other, may or may not impact their choices. Thus, we must use each of their stunts as opportunities to grow. I know this may sound very difficult to those currently feeling pain, but our only other option (engagement) benefits them and places unnecessary stress on us.
What happens when they just don’t stop?
Enter a variety of truly disturbing behaviors on their parts. As our health and healing increases, their behaviors tend to deteriorate. Why? They sense that they are losing their control over us. Unfortunately, they still want it. Typically, we begin to heal, in spite of what we may have experienced. This is difficult for them to process and accept.
In some instances, a strange type of role reversal seems to occur. For a time, we may have been the ones who wished to maintain or preserve the relationships. We were probably quite “invested” or had others to consider. Since we assumed (mistakenly) that our associations were genuine, we may have pushed to make things work, even in the end.
As long as we remained engaged and miserable, unable to figure out why we were unable to “fix” or rectify matters, they were happy. They liked that we were conflicted and questioning our emotions. We talked, wrote, and defended ourselves ad nauseam. As we did, they remained disinterested, ignored us, and behaved in superior fashions. Why? They still held the power.
However, over time, we recognized how they operated and learned about them, as well as ourselves, in the process. As our healing progressed, we slipped from their grasps, regardless of what they did to us or accused us of. They noticed their controlling behaviors yielding diminishing returns. Thus, they became further driven to regain their positions. They looked for ways to push us harder in order to keep us involved in their strange games.
Stalking and harassment, of various forms, often increase exponentially in this phase. This may occur in person, electronically, through the court system, through children’s matters, financially, or any other ways that they can access us.
What do we think as this continues?
As the months or years pass, we begin to see their desperate attempts at control as ridiculous. We may wonder at what point is enough, enough? Those on the periphery often ask the same. However, it is likely that they fail to realize that their quests for our destruction have grown old. There should come a time when even they realize that their “gigs” are up.
In spite of that, they often continue. They repeat behaviors that once worked, even if those behaviors no longer bring results. This further illustrates that there may be little carry over or ability to process consequences or care about them if they are able.
How should we react?
We must view this as simply one more hurdle to jump; nothing more than one more aspect of the disorder (provided their engagement attempts are non-life threatening. If they are, contact the police and/or seek legal counsel immediately.) When we realize and accept this, we allow ourselves to be prepared for anything. The reality is that we may have to endure manipulative correspondence or unnecessary trips to court from time to time.
We must review the following as much as necessary until the thoughts become automatic; we know that it is important to try to move forward with our lives after any type of significant change. When these changes occur in conjunction with severing relational ties, especially with these individuals, that may prove more challenging.
Collectively, they are unusually intent on revenge, especially if we disconnected more in-tact than they felt was acceptable. If they view any of our successes (which, again, can sometimes be defined as our mere survival) as threats, we can bank on the fact that we will meet with serious and potentially harmful retaliation that has the potential to continue, at least intermittently, for quite some time.
Regardless, we must respond with grace. Sometimes, that may come in the form non-responses or those handled by third parties. We must continue to enforce boundaries; personal and otherwise. If going “no contact” is possible, do it. If not, communicate only in fact. It is their choice to remain focused on our destruction. We, however, see and know all (or are learning) about what motivates them. Our knowledge will empower us.
Even if we no longer provide reinforcement for their behaviors, it seems to take extended periods of time for that to register. Therefore, we must persist. We must not allow ourselves to take their words or actions personally. Again, this too, is about them, not us.
Dear Glory,
Welcome to LOve Fraud.
I’m sorry you are still having trouble with this man, but it is so typical of the breed that I can’t say anything that you have not already said.
Getting him to “drop it” when you are so successful and otherwise happy is not going to happen. Keel over dead and he will be happy.
I too feel sorry for the woman he married but that is how they get someone who they can control. If she leaves him, she has to leave the country…so she is stuck, but she is not your worry.
You didn’t say how old your kids are and what their relationship with him is. I hope that they are starting to see though with the young woman that he is all about CONTROL.
Glad you are here, keep on reading and learning….if you must have contact with him, use the GRAY ROCK method and bore him to death. NO emotion, no matter what he says, just let it slide off, don’t let him see that he is getting your goat. Hang in and heal yourself and your kids…he is a total loss.
God bless and again, welcome.
Thanks Ox Drover, I’ll take a look.
It’s like prising off a clam isn’t it: and there’s always something to control when you have kids together.
GlorytoGod, I don’t know how old your kids are but it sounds like you’re doing just fine giving them their childhood.
For years I didn’t talk to my son about his father’s problems much, but now he’s grown up he knows more. He’s with his dad 3 or 4 days each week and they seem to have a superficial but workable relationship; for years I tried to manage it but now my son is fine doing that on his own. He knows he can live with me 24/7 if necesary, and he seems to understand his father now and deal with all the vanity and pompousness much more easily than I did.
I’m glad I facilitated their relationship for so long…and also glad I don’t need to do that any more.
Most people do not understand personality disorder unless they’ve lived with someone who has it. It can be so subtle at times but with more experience now I think ‘just wait- you’ll see’ and sure enough the ridiculous decision or complete about-turn of values or unreasonable tantrum happens….even then though some people will make excuses or look away. They don’t want to see; my ex’s sister is like that, for a long time I told her about his unkindness to me and she just broke my confidence, fed it all back to him. Now she’s playing happy families with his new woman- even knowing this woman will get burned many times over.
I’m sure there are people/organisations can help the new wife in your situation if she can’t cope with him.And she can become a citizen and make her own new life- lots of women do.
For each of the “thank you’s,” you all are welcome! For each of the complimentary comments, thank you. I love to see words hitting home and helping. It is funny how we see or hear the things we need at just the right moments sometimes.
Glory….it’s never too late. And don’t worry about being graceful. By grace, I just meant that we should try to handle things in manners that help us. That’s easier said than done and takes time and practice. Consider this a marathon. We must train to go the distance. So, don’t be hard on yourslef. It’ll come. You’re in the right place for support.
Kurtzie, you said that he is dragging out the divorce. That, too, can be frustrating. Some of that is probably due to the nature of the court system. I think it helps to kind of accept that too. Does is stink? Yes. Is there much we can do about it? No. So, hang in there. Stay on top of your attorney for your own awareness, but know that it is a slow process. That alone, will give you some piece of mind.
LPMarie,
Glad to hear you plugged that gap. Good girl. It is exhausting but necessary to protect yourself and little one too. Now you must reward yourself with a big bar of chocolate, yes?
Hugs and strength from SW
Kurtzie, forward momentum is forward momentum! Take it and run with it.
Glory, “playing dead” is about the only way to manage a legal situation when children are involved. I went through that same scenario with the first exspath and I got a scathing psych eval. Well, of course we’re going to appear nuts because the spath have taken great pains to drivve us nuts. And the sad fact is that most professionals in the fields of psychiatry and psychology only know case studies and have no personal frame of reference.
My brightest blessings to you both
I just re-read my comment. I didn’t mean that there are not parts of the legal system that are in need of reform regarding family law. I think we have many eyes to open, in fact. I also think that collectively, we are able to start making changes by raising awareness. That’s important!
So I just wanted to clarify…I was addressing the pace. It is slow. Sometimes, that is a source of frustration. Sometimes, it works in our favors, although that is less apparent as we are in the midst of things. In the short term, making peace where we can helps. Phew…I had to say that. Sitting back and doing nothing is not anything I’d ever suggest!!! Unless, I’m “playing dead.” 🙂 That’s excellent advice, Truth!!!
There is a grassroots piece to it all which in truth may have more impact than anything else because stories travel.
Tell them. Let the ones that need told wind their ways around the globe.
The stories need to be told over and over. Not just mine.
All of them.
Because this is a battle against ignorance.
And ignorance is stubborn.
But, saying no can be a pretty stubborn thing too
I have been having a ‘thoughtful’ and ‘reflective’ kind of day today. Trying to fit the pieces together without breaking down and sobbing….
I have already shared one link on another thread and I want to share one more on my journey today, inside my own thoughts:
Although I don’t think I have messed anything up except for myself by sometimes maybe caring just a little too much…
Note: *The following link contains adult language*
Anyone finding that offensive may want to pass on watching.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yz6Mz-gzLU&feature=related
Happy Saturday you guys…
My LF Family ((to all))
Dupey
Dupey, you sound in need of a hug today…. so HUGS! Tomorrow will be a different day, dear!
Thanks darwinsmom for the ((hug)) Back at ya…
I broke my toe this morning and last night, while making dinner, I burned a good sized scar on the top of my hand. 🙁
I feel like one of The Three Stooges with the way things are happening to me…..
It’s been a BLAH day….
Had the Grand daughter most of the day yesterday and she had to go back home….we had the grandest day together!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What an ugly, nightmarish experience that ppath was and still is. Not more than 10 mins ago, I was stalked, only once again.
(((darwinsmom))) back at ya…
Dupey