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Who is the sociopath?

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August 12, 2010 //  by Steve Becker, LCSW//  183 Comments

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What a difficult question this is—exactly what defines the sociopath?

 Joseph Neuman Ph.D, psychopathy researcher, in an extensive interview (see link to this interview previously provided by Donna Anderson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmZgnCHweLM) addresses this and other questions about psychopaths.

Neuman’s research, if I understand him correctly (and I did not find him to be particularly clear in his explanations) yields a picture of the psychopath, surprisingly, not as primarily emotionally defective, but rather as emotionally defective secondary to certain forms of attentional problems.

Neuman makes some interesting and, to my mind, somewhat puzzling observations. For instance, and consistent with his basic premise, he actually suggests that psychopaths may be more inclined to genuinely assist someone they perceive to be in need than non-psychopaths. Did I hear that correctly? I think so.

Neuman also suggests that the psychopath’s capacity for this kind of humane response is unfortunately, or effectively, nullified (in others’ eyes) by his more antisocial, knucklehead behaviors. Did I hear this correctly, too? I think I did.

Neuman’s basic premise—again, if I understand him correctly—is that psychopaths aren’t so much fundamentally defective emotionally as much as their emotional capacities which, alas, may be much more normal than otherwise appreciated, are essentially obscured, effectively immobilized, by their over-attention, their over-focus on their particular, momentary interest(s).

So, to be clear, if I’m understanding Neuman, he’s suggesting that psychopaths (at least some, if not many) may indeed have normal emotions, perhaps even a normal range of emotions; the problem is that they don’t “attend” to their emotions because they aren’t “cueing” to the signals that should steer them to recognize, and be better regulated, by their emotions.

Neuman suggests that when psychopaths can be directed to focus on these cues and signals, his research shows that they can and do access a range of more normal emotions. This should and, Neuman says, does result in their coming under the better, and more appropriate, stewardship of their emotions (my italics, not his).

Now on one hand, Neuman says he’s not denying that an emotional deficit lies at the core of psychopathy. Yet it seems to me that this is exactly what he’s questioning!  What he is saying in the interview, it seems to me, again and again, is that, at the heart of psychopathy is less an emotional deficit than a kind of attentional deficit, a signal-attuning deficit, the consequence of which is to detach the psychopath from connection to his underlying capacity to feel, and be better regulated in his behavior, by his emotions.

Now perhaps I’ve badly misinterpreted what I heard Neuman saying. I will leave that to other LoveFraud readers to weigh in.

Also, consistent with what I hear him saying throughout the interview, Neuman takes the rather radical stance that once a psychopath, not necessarily always, hopelessly, permanently a psychopath.

He suggests, rather, that if interventions can be developed that, for instance, can help psychopaths more effectively attune to the signals that will steer their attention to their healthier emotions, well then”¦NASA, we may have arrived at something of a cure, or palliative, for psychopathy.

He envisions interventions, if I understand him properly, that would effectively liberate the humanity within the psychopath, which is obscured, if not immobilized, by his attentional problems.

Because again, he is not saying that psychopaths necessarily lack emotions, or even a range of normal emotions; remember, he goes so far as to say that some psychopaths, including those with whom he’s worked, have shown evidence of an even greater (and genuine!) responsiveness to those in need than non-psychopaths. The problem, he stresses, is that psychopaths, by virtue of their overfocus on present, reward-driven interests, are basically disconnected from their emotions. At least this is what I understand him to be saying.

Neuman makes another interesting observation. Citing Hervey Cleckley, MD, he suggests that the psychopath may have an even weaker drive to acquire what he wants than the normal individual. The problem, he says, is that their “restraints” are even weaker than their “urges.” He describes this as a case of their “weaker urges breaking through even weaker restraints.”

Neuman also asserts that you can’t define psychopathy by behaviors and actions, including, he says, actions like “defrauding” people. I understand his general point—the idea that psychopathy’s essence may be more a reflection of a mentality than specific actions.

However, a pattern of certain actions, especially exploitive actions, can reflect, can reveal, the mind—and  the disorder—behind it.

As I understand Neuman, let us say we have someone who is in the process of perpetrating a cold-blooded armed robbery—and not, say, the first he’s perpetrated. He’s prepared to bind, blindfold and shoot all potential witnesses to the crime. This way he can take what he came for and not get fingered, identified, in the act. Let us say he has done this before, remorselessly.

Neuman seems to suggest that, horrible as this act would be, it’s not necessarily indicative of a psychopath. Maybe he’s right.

But let’s say this individual is a Hare-diagnosed psychopath. Neuman also seems to be proposing the idea that the killer’s primary issue isn’t necessarily the absence, somewhere, of appropriate and potentially self-regulating emotion; rather, he’s so overfocused on taking care of the business at hand—robbing, and removing witnesses to the robbery—that he’s unable to attune to the kinds of signals that would lead him to recognize, and fall under the prosocial influence, of his more normal, humane emotions.

So that, if somehow, in the course of the perpetrating of his crime, you could somehow cue him to the signals that might lead him to recognize his more “humane” emotions, you might, theoretically, be able to short-circuit the robbery and coldblooded murdering of the witnesses!

Really? That’s an interesting concept, but it’s not one that strikes me as necessarily plausible. In general, as I listened to Neuman, I found that he depicted the psychopath specifically, and psychopathy in general, in terms that seemed to me much too benign; as if the psychopath, in Neuman’s view and based on his research, isn’t necessarily lacking in humanity as much as he’s lacking certain qualities that would enable his humanity to express itself in more visible, self-regulating, prosocial ways?

What was your take on the interview?

(This article is copyrighted (c) 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is strictly for convenience’s sake and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed.)

 

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  1. purewaters3

    August 12, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    OxDrover,

    Yeah, good point.

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  2. hurtnomore010

    August 12, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    My mother is willing to pay for my education. But the point is that it was going peaceful until today. He told my mom to tell me that I needed to do a coursework on obtaining loans so he can take out a parental loan for undergraduate students. I needed his SSN so I emailed him for it. The point is he uses “disrespect ” carelessly and validates his unspeakable actions for it. My mother believes him everytime but never asks us what really happens. Instead she yells at us( the kids) and then we have to apologize for nothing. I’m tired of that! He will sit there and lies to my mom. Just to make me look bad or as if I’m a terrible child. He complains to my mom that we don’t respect him.

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  3. ErinBrock

    August 12, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    Hurtnomore:
    It sounds as if you are ‘competing’ for power of your own life.
    The only way you will win this ‘war’ is if you get out on your own, support yourself, and make all of your own decisions.
    Your 18……what I tell my kids is…..if you don’t like it…..Sianara.
    It’s unfortunate that your dad is the way he is…….your not going to change him.
    It’s unfortunate that your mother is not believing you…..your not going to change her.
    It’s unfortunate that your sister is vying for pops attention and your friends attention……your not going to change her.

    Now….you must ask yourself……WHAT can I do for ME to be happy?
    A good start is……work on your independence.
    If school is not in your immediate future…..for financial reasons……get out and get that job, pay for your own housing, and get student loans and scholarships for your education.
    This CAN be done…..and it CAN be done without the guidance of your parents.

    Fear of the unknown will paralyze you……IF you let it!

    It seems as if your making decisions to tie yourself to your parents further…….and that will only prolong this situation of unhappiness for you.
    There is empowerment for you to gain by learning how to be independant. It will catapult you into your life.

    Good luck!

    XXOO
    EB

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  4. Ox Drover

    August 12, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Dear Hurtnomore,

    As I said before, YOU CANNOT CONTROL what He says—and you cannot control what she believes…..those things are OUT of your control, the only thing you can do is to control how you REACT or RESPOND.

    If they “make” you apologize. Then you can TRUTHFULLY say “I did not mean to disrespect you.” Which is a TRUE statement, you didn’t mean to disrespect them. It isn’t admitting that you DID disrespect them, only saying That you did NOT MEAN to. So you are not lying or admitting anything either.

    Just keep your cool, and you will soon be out of their reach and can start living your own life. If you dad does not want to help you with the school loans, then do without them. You cannot control whether he helps you are not.

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  5. Sarah999

    August 12, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    IMHO . . . Newman is WRONG!

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  6. Frank Lee Speaking

    August 12, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    I really do think that some people have more education than their minds can handle and they develop a kind of intellectual autism or something.

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  7. blueskies

    August 12, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    excellent post breckgirl.

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  8. Ox Drover

    August 12, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    “Intellectual autism” LOL ROTFLMAO WOW, that is a great “diagnosis” and there are several people I know who I think fall into that “diagnosis.”

    “If you can’t impress them with your brilliance, then baffle them with your bull chit!”

    Some people seem to think that if they use enough 4 bit or 6 bit words, and arrange them into what looks like sentences or paragraphs, that the rest of us will feel stupid because we can’t figure out what they “mean” but in actual fact, they are MEANINGLESS….sort of like the people in the town when the naked emperor marched through town in his “INVISIBLE CLOTHES.” No one wanted to let on they were not smart enough to see the clothes, except the one kid who didn’t know what the king was SUPPOSED to be wearing and was honest enough to say what he DID SEE. “the king is NAKED!”

    Unfortunately psychology is one of those fields of study where “opinion” is sometimes accepted where there are no blood tests or brain scans that can distinguish one “opinion” from another as being “more true.” It is a field not dominated by common sense, but more by consensus and unfortunately heavy on the CON. (IMHO)

    Their just at this point is no way to determine objectively….but things are rolling in that direction at last.

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  9. bluejay

    August 12, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    newlife08,

    I relate to your post – “there is that blank look that say’s he doesn’t even get what I mean – HE DOESN’T FEEL OR CARE ABOUT THE PAIN HE CAUSES.” That describes my experience to a tee. When you try and tell “normal” people about your experiences, forget about it, they cannot grasp what you are talking about, too unreal, far-fetched, out of their everyday realm of existence. Unless you are intimately affected by a spath, you will more than likely not even look into what this disorder is all about. It’s a thorn in my family’s side.

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  10. bluejay

    August 12, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    My h-spath has shown concern for others in the past (especially his employees), but it really is the knucklehead, antisocial behaviors that cause you to ignore the really nice things that he’s done for others. He has gone out of his way to help others – it’s just that he does the illegal, stupid things too that makes your stomach churn, be in knots, living on the edge. You just want to get away from and keep away from the insanity.

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