By Ox Drover
After reading Steve Becker’s article yesterday, I commented that most of the articles here on Lovefraud that could be entitled “1001 Things I Did Wrong in Dealing with a Psychopath” were the ones that applied most to my own dealings with them.
That was meant as a joke, but after I left that comment for Steve, I got to thinking about how right-on it was, joke or not, because I have done so much wrong in dealing with these people. I got my self deeper and deeper into trouble, doing the wrong things in interacting with them. Not that I was intentionally doing something mean or “wrong” per se, but I didn’t make choices that led to positive outcomes in dealing with the psychopaths in my life.
One of the reasons I did 1001 things wrong was that I didn’t know what I was dealing with. I thought I was dealing with people who had good intentions toward me, just as I had good intentions toward them. Boy, was that a wrong thing to assume. But because I assumed this error in fact about their intentions, I tried to “be reasonable” with them. That sure didn’t work. They broke their word to me time and time again. It took me a long time “to get it through my thick skull,” as MaryJo Buttafuoco said in her book, and then, when I did get it through my thick head that “Person A” couldn’t be trusted, I didn’t “generalize” that knowledge to other people who also broke their words to me over and over and over again.
Learning to generalize
Even animals can learn to generalize. A friend and I trained steer, getting them used to “something that rattled.” It didn’t matter what rattled; we would use plastic milk jugs with rocks in them, and tie those jugs to their tails so that every time they took a step, this “rattling monster” attached to them would make noise and follow them. For a little while they were scared and ran from it, but eventually they got the idea that the “rattling monster” wasn’t going to be outrun by them (it always kept up), and it wasn’t actually going to hurt them. Eventually they decided anything that rattled and made noise was harmless.
With one set of young steers my friend trained though, if you got them used to a white jug with rocks in it, and they weren’t afraid of it any more, if you used a yellow jug, they would go back to SQUARE ONE PANIC AGAIN, with each tiny change in the “monster.” They didn’t “generalize” very well and were always hyper-alert and on guard. He eventually got them so they were “dynamite proof,” so he could take them out in public without being afraid they would panic at the first sound they weren’t used to, or the first loud retort from a fire cracker, but he and I both thought for a long time they might not ever generalize enough to be safe from panicking and running away out in public.
Abusive behavior
I think in a way I also didn’t “generalize” the abusive behaviors of the various psychopaths I encountered. When a boss would be dishonest and verbally abusive to me, I was upset and “panicked” at the unexpected behavior, trying to figure out how to not get hurt, but when a relative would do this same kind of behavior I, again, panicked and didn’t realize that the “rattle” was just the same kind of “monster” that I had encountered with the other psychopath. Of course I didn’t realize then that the psychopathic “monsters” had a name or that their lack of empathy and their damage was definitely destructive, unlike a milk jug with a few rocks in it.
I not only tried to be “reasonable” with the psychopaths, but I also tried to placate them, to make them see, by being extra nice to them and not “bowing up and fighting back,” that I wasn’t trying to hurt them. I wanted to be “friends” and get along.
Of course, when a prey animal tries to get along with a predator animal we know what happens, don’t we? The prey animal gets the worst end of the deal. Yep, I did get the worst end of the deal trying to “make nice” with the psychopaths, but again, I didn’t learn that a psychopath is a psychopath is a psychopath is a predator! Rather than generalize this hurtful behavior to a class of people, I saw each one as an individual person with “reasons” and “excuses” and the “potential to change” and “see the light” when there was no chance that they were going to have any empathy, much less sympathy, for the pain they caused me or anyone else. They didn’t give a hoot how badly they hurt me as long as they got what they wanted.
Wanted to get along
I also didn’t really see what it was that they actually wanted. I didn’t want to cause anyone any pain, I wanted to love people and get along with them and share good things and help folks out. This is what I thought that everyone wanted. What they actually did want, however, was to control me, humiliate me, and to get me to provide them with their own twisted idea of a relationship—all take on their part and all give on mine.
Just like the hyper-alert steers, I didn’t feel comfortable, and was always jumpy, expecting something to hit me, but I wasn’t sure where it would come from, so each time a psychopath lied to me, stole from me, took advantage of me, I was totally surprised again and again.
Eventually that young pair of steers got to where they were not surprised by anything in the way of a loud noise and they calmed down and became a reliable pair of working steers (oxen). But it was only because they learned to move from the individual to the general concepts of what would or would not hurt them. They learned that a little yappy dog running at their feet was not a danger, but that a large aggressive dog was something that they should kick at or hook at with their horns. They learned that the sound of a fire cracker or a car back firing, or a cannon shooting at a historical reenactment, wasn’t going to hurt them and they didn’t need to pay it any attention. They learned to distinguish between harmless noises like people yelling or laughing and their drover saying “get up” and meaning it!
I’m not sure why these particular steers were so difficult to train. Perhaps it was because the breed was the wilder Spanish cattle from Mexico whose ancestors that had not jumped every time there was a noise in the brush had been taken out of the gene pool by the wolves, coyotes and mountain lions, so only the “jumpy” ones were left.
Changed my response
I’m also not sure why I didn’t generalize from the abusive behavior I endured over and over, or change the failed attempts to get it to stop by doing repeatedly something that had not worked. Someone once said, “insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” I sure did enough of that for two lifetimes. Now I have changed the way I respond to abusive behavior. I am learning to distinguish the difference between “harmless rattles” and “real threats” from predators.
I have made some general “rules” to guide me in my differentiation of what is “harmless” and what is “threatening.” First off, it depends on how close to me the threat is. A rattle snake at 10 yards from me is no threat at all. I know he could hurt me if he was closer, but I will not let him get close enough to strike me, so I don’t have to fear him. If that same rattle snake is 3 feet from me, I take a different view of the potential for harm from the same snake, and react in a different way than I do to the one who is 30 feet away.
If a person who is not “close to me” lies to me, it probably isn’t going to be much of a danger to me, unless it is a big business deal. I don’t fear that lie from someone I don’t really have any connection with, I just notice (like with the rattle snake at a distance) that the person is dishonest, I don’t want him to get closer to me.
If a person who is “close to me” lies, that has a much bigger potential for harm to me, both emotionally and otherwise. Therefore I will move away from that dishonest person, put some distance between me and them so that if they do strike, they won’t be close enough to hit me or do any significant damage.
Threat or benign
Once I have determined that a person, animal, or object is a potential threat rather than a benign creature, I will keep a wary eye on it. I won’t make excuses for the potential damage, and once it has tried to hurt me, it won’t have another chance. I no longer trust anything or anyone without assessing the potential damage that could be done.
Cynical? No, I don’t think so, just cautious. I don’t venture into the world like there are no dangers out there, no evil people. I do know now that there are some evil creatures in the world, some potential threats to my life, sanity and health. But I no longer walk in terror, because I have realized what the evil creatures are. I am no longer terrified of the “rattling milk jugs,” but I give a wide berth to the “poison snakes.”
I’ve finally personally learned from the “1001e things I did wrong in dealing with psychopaths.”
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Water turns to ice if it gets cold ya know? Lol! Giddy up 409? Haven’t heard that song for a while. I think it should have been giddy up 309.
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skylar what you said though really does strike a chord with me
i remember towards the END of my crapvolvement in the relationshit ( Thank ya Oxy! ) with the sociopath… he would text me really mean things for no reason at all. He would say all these curse words that seemed to have come out of left field. Strangely enough, I didn’t feel engaged enough on that level- i mean I knew at that point this was HIS issue, and i would simply respond rather apathetically. I remember saying something along the lines of, “You deserve an Oscar.” ( I wasn’t mentally COGNIZANT of the fact he was an Spath but now when i look back and think of that it’s so funny because I subconsciously knew it was all an act! ) He continued to spew vitriol at me, and i wouldn’t respond in a helpless manner, but simply holding my ground. “Great.” “Good for you.” i think this annoyed the shit out of the Spath LOL cause he texted me “Stop texting me you F***ing B****!” when i just responded once to his extremely mean remarks. ( And never did i once stoop down to the S’ level by engaging in his 2 year old hissy fit derogatory word slinging.. I just layed down the truth. )
His vitriol was instigated by the fact that I wasn’t taking his calls one day… after i had found out the truth of another one of his lies. A BIG one. It’s funny, they get so worked up about not being able to INTERVENE into your MIND from reasoning logically. He called me repeatedly that night, even though I expressed that I didn’t want to talk ( I had spent the night shaking and sobbing, after realizing another deception. I remember feeling so helpless and small, I called my mom, because I did feel, intrinsically, on a soul level, all cut up.. it was impossible to focus on anything else ) . That was it, that was the moment, I wasn’t taking his calls, I wasn’t giving him the chance to word salad me into another miserable month of lying and abuse on all levels. This fueled his relentless texting of foul language and name calling on every which derogatory parameter.
Of course next week after i never responded he called me as if nothing had happened ( Sound familiar? ).. then when i made it an issue that he behaved as if nothing happened he made it out to be a “WE” issue AGAIN. No buddy, that is all you. Don’t try to wipe your SOCIOPATHIC SLIME off on me.
Of course, this was a week prior to my final confrontation and initiating of NC with this creepwad. ( towanda! )
My, you’ve got a great SMILE, aussiegirl. Hehehe. 🙂
Spinich medley and cocktails anyone…….my treat!
Oxy– Wow!!! Ok your mom sounds a lot like my dad! Although my dad is super sugary sweet (until he gets angry, and then WATCH OUT), but he had this SUPER strange idea of who God is in his mind God wants us all to suffer badly. So all the neglect I experienced after he gained custody of us (50 degree house), little food, no hot water. . .etc. . were all GOD’S will! It was hard to believe that my desires and dreams were ok when my basic needs were not. This was very deep in my psyche, and even now I feel guilty buying FOOD or putting the thermostat on! I hardly ever buy anything for myself new. . not because we don’t have the money to do it (though I do like finding a bargain!), but when it really boils down it’s because I can emotionally justify s $5 shirt for me a lot more than I can a $25 shirt.
Recently I had a dream that made so much sense of everything that happened with my parents. Basically I was the coach of one football team and TB was the coach of the other team, but dad was the team on her side. .my team was my little family. My team won fair and square in overtime and the coach from the other team told us it would be better for us to jump off of a cliff than to stay in town that night. So I rounded up my team and told them to get in the bus immediately. The next morning word came out that the referee from the game that called the winning play in our favor had been hung to look like a suicide.
When I woke up and started thinking about the interpretation what I realized is that my dad was being a sore loser about us moving, moping around the place, etc, and that, GOD was the ref! He called the play correctly, but they didn’t like it, so they killed him! AND in my dad’s case he created a new god! That was major revelation for me!
I’m working through this awesome book called: Healing the Shame that Binds you by John Bradshaw. He addresses NLP. . .Neuro Linguistic Programming. Sounds fancy right! It’s essentially going back to shaming memories and remembering them vividly and assessing your emotions while in that memory. THEN going to another memory where you were assertive and spoke your mind. Then you take the same high voltage energy from the memory where you were competent and capable and use that energy in the memory where you were shamed. Then you mentally hand that person back their shame, a black soggy bag. So I did this experience with a memory from childhood, and told the TB off. For the first time in my life I am not afraid of her. This does not mean I’m stupid and going to call her or contact her, what it does mean is that I’ve slept in peace. I know there is a lot more work to do for me to regain lost ground, but that this is helping me work through the trauma of being the daughter of a monster.