Lance Armstrong said, “Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever.”
When I was in an abusive relationship with a sociopath, the pain was overwhelming. I quit trying to get through it and gave into it. I quit and felt like it would last forever.
“Nothing lasts forever – not even your troubles” so said psychologist, Arnold H. Glasgow.
Trouble is, when I’m in trouble I ‘always’ think in absolutes, like never and forever. When I’m in never and forever land, I tell myself tomorrow is too far away to even bother caring about what happens today. I tell myself to quit moving through the turmoil because it is a forever deal. I’m never going to get through it. I’m never going to get away from it. I’m never going to get away.
When I was with the sociopath, I couldn’t see the possibility of freedom when I was mired in my denial of what was happening in my life. I kept telling myself that because I said I loved him, I had to stay true to my love forever. I had to stay true to him, forever and could never leave. I never let myself think about the alternative, “What if I could leave? What if I didn’t love him? what if….?”
Because I told myself I could never leave him, I couldn’t see that I was the architect of my distress. Caught up in the despair of believing ‘the pain of loving him’ would last forever, I convinced myself to quit trying to do anything different, to think anything different. I told myself there was no freedom for me, just this ennui of dying more and more every day.
I work at a homeless shelter. Recently, I had a friend tell me he believes that many of the homeless in our city ‘receive with the expectation they should receive and see no merit in contributing to the very institution or the society that gives them succour’. While I understand his point of view, and on the surface acknowledge there is some ‘truth’ to what he says, I also understand what happens to an individual when they become so lost they see no hope of ever finding themselves again.
In all of us there is a dark-side to our psyches. That place where light cannot find a foothold in the quicksand of negative thinking that pulls us down. Some will never trip over their shadows, some will never fall so far from grace they lose sight of the light. For those who meet up with sociopaths or who lose their way on the road of life, however, darkness will fall as they plummet into the despair of believing they will always be lost to the light. Devoid of hope, they will not open their eyes to the possibility of letting go of never and forever being there.
My life with the sociopath was like that. I fell into the dark-side and quit trying to swim to the shores of sensibility. I gave up on me and gave into him. The pain of my existence, of being me, of having to walk around in my own body was overwhelming. I wanted to die and thus did everything I could to make it possible.
The sociopath became my escape from living. He was my own personal suicide mission.
I see it happening everyday at the shelter where I work. People on suicide missions with a destiny they fear will never come.
And yet, despite the bleakness of their outlooks their human spirit keeps struggling to survive. To rise above the cesspool of negative thinking that inexorably pulls them into the vortex of their despair.
There is no easy cure for pain. Yesterday my gallbladder flared up and for a moment I felt as if the pain would last forever. I knew it wouldn’t and so I breathed deeply. Let the tears flow and waited for it to subside. It did.
Like all pain, it disbursed, eased, backed-off and was replaced with something else. In my case, a refreshing sleep from which I awoke to a beautiful blue sky-day filled with love and laughter. A walk with the puppies and a wonderful friend. A shopping trip to one of my favourite stores to scope out storage solutions for my new home and a birthday dinner for one of my dearest friends.
It was a day that started with pain and ended with love and laughter. The pain subsided, its memory but a distant reminder I must watch more carefully what I eat. The love and laughter, they live on, forever and a day, to remind me to never give up on living my life on the light-side of my thinking.
DW, I agree with LL on this one….though he has cheated on you since you separated and probably while you were living together, WHAT’s the RUSH to jump into a relationship with this guy?
Yes, you are free to do whatever you want….you can see who you want to see, and sleep with whom you want to and I can’t tell you it is right or wrong, but you asked what our opinions were and I gave you mine.
I would not ask your daughter to “keep secrets” or get in the middle between you and your husband. He may not be able to legally do anything, probably he can’t, but he may continue to make live as miserable for you as he can in divorce court, and with your daughter—quizzing her, saying bad things about you.
Seeing a man now while you are still legally married though, and going off with him for weekends, etc. asking your daughter to withhold or keep secrets—letting her know you are sleeping with this man, I’m not sure that sets an example I would want to set for my teen-aged daughter.
I do think you deserve better than this guy, and I don’t see a “rush” to jump into a new relationship, but I jumped into a new relationship after my husband died because I was so lonely, and so starved for attention and I jumped from the frying pan of my grief into the fire of a P-relationship.
No one can tell you what to do, you are an adult, but you asked and I told you my OPINION and in the end the choices are yours to make, not mine. The consequences of your decisions and choices are also yours as well. God bless.
Dear LL ~ Oh my gosh I can feel the pain in your words. I would love to give that little girl inside you a big comforting hug. She (you) needs to know that you are safe now, be at peace little one. Big (((hugs))) to you dear!!
H2H. Thank you.
Ox, I completely agree. Is it possible that we agree on such a thing? lol…..shoot, gotta have humor right now through tons of pain…
DW, I agree with Ox. We can all give you an opinion, but you’re in a place that I wish to GOD I was in when ex spath sucked me in….here.
It’s just a “blog” I know…gotcha, but ya know what? There is wisdom here.
We can’t be your decision makers. That’s up to you. I can only just share. It’s WISE to live honestly…..as honestly as you can, no matter how painful, for yourself and your child.
You’ve been through an awful lot. Why drag another asshole into the picture and teach your child that secrets and lies is where it’s at so nyour needs are met? Pain is “avoided” so that you don’t have to face what you’ve dealt with so far?
I”m telling you RIGHT NOW, that doing that will INCREASE your pain, not alleviate it…and you show your child how to keep secrets and lie………..
I know. I did it. The consequences are monumental, DW.
You’re here posting, so that tells me you value the opinions you get here. But in the end, it’s really all that it is….from a bunch of people who don’t know you, yet offer advice and care to you through type.
You know what’s best for you. But with the dynamics you describe, it’s not healthy. It just isn’t.
Your child has already experienced so much damage. With all you know now, after having been here awhile, why create more for her or for yourself?
There is a need within you unmet, or a pain you dont’ want to face. I get that…but from personal experience, DW, you’re not going to alleviate it from another aseshole, more lies and secrets….
It’s like putting a bandaid on cancer. YOu can’t do that.
It’s up to you though.
I’ll keep you in my prayers.
LL
Dear nightgal,
Just in case you’re still considering going back, all things aside, the fact that he is on drugs and deals drugs will PREVENT him from being in a healthy relationship. It will probably land him and you in jail if you stay involved.
Regarding the ex living in his home (no matter where she is sleeping), personally I would never tolerate a situation like this. I fell for a guy who had a similar situation going on with a former FWB who moved to town and needed a place to stay just as he and I started dating. He told her she could stay with him. We hadn’t yet talked about exclusivity, but I laid the law down right away. I told him I would not date a man who had an ex living in his house. And I meant it. Within two weeks, he had moved her out.
No matter how you look at it, this guy is really really bad news.
Thanks to everyone -one joy, LL, Oxy et al for your support. I just feel constantly weepy but more grounded than usual. I really think menopause has something to do with it.
When you are a survivor of childhood abuse, you compartmentalize things. The abuse is buried. You know it is there and you know how much it affects you. But you have to repress it so you can carry on with the other parts of your life. The parts don’t connect. But you have to survive, and to survive you have to pretend. Apparently 50 is the magical year when you stop pretending.
The other thing about being a survivor is that emotionally you get arrested at the point where the abuse started happening. You never got to go through the healthy developmental stages – the socializing with other kids, etc. You have never even learned to bond in a healthy way with anyone, so your life becomes about hiding and putting up one wall on top of another, so you can get along with people in order to survive. You don’t really have hopes and dreams like normal people do. Your only dream is to be pain-free and to survive. It takes a lot of energy to maintain the walls. So to rest, you spend a lot of time alone. You don’t really get nurtured by being alone. It’s just a rest from the stress of having to be “on” all the time.
LL, I so relate to your frustration about having to wait for therapists, etc. I went through this for many years when I was looking for low-cost/free counseling. And I’m going through it again now. Hang in there. Like this blog says, pain is temporary. I find that it’s not that I’m in huge amounts of pain like I used to be, like maybe you are now. It’s more that I felt unable to communicate to others. I get this band of tension in my head that is like a lid, preventing me from sharing. I’ve had it ever since I can remember. I had no say, no voice. I remember being two and being like this – the product of two narcissistic parents. I have always struggled with feeling bottled up – like feelings wanted to come out but couldn’t. It feels easier now. I feel more visible and more accepting of it. I’m okay being sad and weepy. I feel like I’m having more genuine connections with people. I hid from men for a while because I was so depressed. Now I feel like I just want to find a guy who can accept me. I don’t feel like I have all this work to do on myself before I can love someone. I just needed to be able to express myself. I could never do this with my family. My narcissist parents took up all the psychic space. I was just a slave. All this time I thought I was screwed up because I couldn’t express myself. Now that the floodgates are starting to open, I feel pretty normal, just vulnerable. I am so grateful for the “personality” I developed to protect me from the world – my sense of humor and ability to see the light side of things. It serves me well in the work environment where those qualities are necessary to survive. I love my personality. This is one of the things I love about myself and what other people love about me. I was just in my Spanish classes making everyone crack up. I don’t want to change my personality. I just want to integrate the other parts into it as well.
Peace out,
Star
((((((((((((((( star )))))))))))))))) I’m glad…..
I’d be happy to exchange menopause (s) with you.
I’m sure it’s adding to the misery I feel currently.
If expressing what you experienced was the single most contributing factor in a stumbling block to your complete healing, than I’m happy for you, that you’re able now to express it.
Perhaps your healing, in reality, is more of a straight shot than mine 🙂
I hope you continue to grow and learn. I hope you find happiness with your enlightenments.
LL
Warrior:
The advise you got above is spot on.
What’s the rush?
I have to point something out……and I am not here much these days…..so forgive me if I am off base…..but something to think about.
One of the things I’ve noticed in the 3 years I’ve been on Lf….is…..
When a poster comes on it’s about them…..then they start giving to others. You haven’t gotten there yet.
You seem to be about you…..which is okay……
BUT……when your inside that wind tunnel of you…….I would seriously think twice about ‘sharing’ yourself with any ‘mr. wonderful’.
Your headed for a head on collision with fate!
Your not done healing, you haven’t even scratched the surface…..shiat….your not even through your divorce…….
Post divorce offers it’s own set of challenges to heal from…..and deal with…..
I’d step away from the fire…..and look deep inside….at why your making these decisions.
Yep….we get lonely, yep we miss the sex……but if you have the self control to keep that under wraps for your own healing to take place….you’ll be a healthier mother and lover and all around person.
There is so much to learn about yourself that you won’t learn while ‘concentrating’ on others.
Give yourself the gift of learning about yourself.
Now……on another note…..
Don’t ever expect your D to not live authentically. No secrets!!!!!
If you don’t want her father or anyone else to know something…..DON’T do it!
My children were expected to keep a secret that spath told them…….”if you ever tell your mother, it will be the end of our family”………
My kids held onto it out of guilt for 5 months……IN PAIN!!!!
Your D’s going through enough……don’t treat her like she’s your girlfriend…….she’s NOT.
Also…..expect spath to react to ‘his’ vision of losing you…..expect it. Dating during this time only adds fuel to the fire.
Yes, you have every right to do what you’d like…….
But…..when the consequences hit……it’s a different feeling.
Don’t be a fool…..take the time for YOU. You’ve been adivsed this over and over.
You are NOT the exception to the rule…….
Good luck!
Star:
Your in a very interesting point in life……..reflection is good, bad and ugly…..all rolled up into one.
Keep your head up and stay positive…..you have a lot to offer the world!!!
((((((((((((( EB!!! )))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Thanks for the “validation”.
This is the first time in my life that I don’t want another relationshit to hide pain, and the first time that not having one means the losses that you mentioned (KEWLIO WITH ME!), but more importantly, the time to take to heal and learn more about me.
God it SUCKS in so many ways…..but I do know that if I didn’t give myself this excrutiating, MISERABLE gift of loneliness, grief and pain………
It’d just be another train wreck.
It just would
HOpe things are going ok for you EB. Out of the house now? Bear under control?
HUGS!
LL
LL;
Yep….we can just move along carrying the same old suitcase…..same shit….different dissaster.
All ends the same……with us in pain, kicking ourselves, but our kids that much older and poor behaviors and choices modeled for them to carry on.
Stop the bus……get off…..and take the breather….for HOWEVER long it may take.
Kudo’s to you for recognizing YOU!!!!!
Things are okay here……been socializing and it’s been nice.
learning new things about myself daily…..some I like….some I don’t. I will change the things I don’t and do more of the things I do!!!!! 🙂
We’ve been innundated with snow this last month….gotta say….it SUCKED. But spring is now here…..and the bear has dug back out yesterday from the last few feet……and yes….he’s been here most every day.
This has been the winter of ‘house and bear sitting’ by EB.
The blue skies and warming temps are SO NICE!!!! That alone gives me energy.