Lance Armstrong said, “Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever.”
When I was in an abusive relationship with a sociopath, the pain was overwhelming. I quit trying to get through it and gave into it. I quit and felt like it would last forever.
“Nothing lasts forever – not even your troubles” so said psychologist, Arnold H. Glasgow.
Trouble is, when I’m in trouble I ‘always’ think in absolutes, like never and forever. When I’m in never and forever land, I tell myself tomorrow is too far away to even bother caring about what happens today. I tell myself to quit moving through the turmoil because it is a forever deal. I’m never going to get through it. I’m never going to get away from it. I’m never going to get away.
When I was with the sociopath, I couldn’t see the possibility of freedom when I was mired in my denial of what was happening in my life. I kept telling myself that because I said I loved him, I had to stay true to my love forever. I had to stay true to him, forever and could never leave. I never let myself think about the alternative, “What if I could leave? What if I didn’t love him? what if….?”
Because I told myself I could never leave him, I couldn’t see that I was the architect of my distress. Caught up in the despair of believing ‘the pain of loving him’ would last forever, I convinced myself to quit trying to do anything different, to think anything different. I told myself there was no freedom for me, just this ennui of dying more and more every day.
I work at a homeless shelter. Recently, I had a friend tell me he believes that many of the homeless in our city ‘receive with the expectation they should receive and see no merit in contributing to the very institution or the society that gives them succour’. While I understand his point of view, and on the surface acknowledge there is some ‘truth’ to what he says, I also understand what happens to an individual when they become so lost they see no hope of ever finding themselves again.
In all of us there is a dark-side to our psyches. That place where light cannot find a foothold in the quicksand of negative thinking that pulls us down. Some will never trip over their shadows, some will never fall so far from grace they lose sight of the light. For those who meet up with sociopaths or who lose their way on the road of life, however, darkness will fall as they plummet into the despair of believing they will always be lost to the light. Devoid of hope, they will not open their eyes to the possibility of letting go of never and forever being there.
My life with the sociopath was like that. I fell into the dark-side and quit trying to swim to the shores of sensibility. I gave up on me and gave into him. The pain of my existence, of being me, of having to walk around in my own body was overwhelming. I wanted to die and thus did everything I could to make it possible.
The sociopath became my escape from living. He was my own personal suicide mission.
I see it happening everyday at the shelter where I work. People on suicide missions with a destiny they fear will never come.
And yet, despite the bleakness of their outlooks their human spirit keeps struggling to survive. To rise above the cesspool of negative thinking that inexorably pulls them into the vortex of their despair.
There is no easy cure for pain. Yesterday my gallbladder flared up and for a moment I felt as if the pain would last forever. I knew it wouldn’t and so I breathed deeply. Let the tears flow and waited for it to subside. It did.
Like all pain, it disbursed, eased, backed-off and was replaced with something else. In my case, a refreshing sleep from which I awoke to a beautiful blue sky-day filled with love and laughter. A walk with the puppies and a wonderful friend. A shopping trip to one of my favourite stores to scope out storage solutions for my new home and a birthday dinner for one of my dearest friends.
It was a day that started with pain and ended with love and laughter. The pain subsided, its memory but a distant reminder I must watch more carefully what I eat. The love and laughter, they live on, forever and a day, to remind me to never give up on living my life on the light-side of my thinking.
Stargazer,
You know on the surface sometimes it does seem like a spell that they cast on people.
However I have a different theory. As much as these disordered individuals lack emotions they DO seem to have the uncanny ability to read us. How they can “play” our emotions SO WELL without having experienced this very emotion first hand themselves……It is just one of those things there is not a logical explanation for.
But even dealing with my son. He is young & not fully mature.
In some ways he is very nieve even for his age. He has very little life experience behind him, especially in dealing with different kinds of people. His world is very small because of his age.
YET he has that mind blowing ability to “work” people and read them just right. Its almost as if he plants a seed, (a lie) then waters it a little (a little manipulation) and pretty soon he has a garden….AND he is “working” on ADULTS…..
And each time he is sucessful it is as if he gets more power. However I also see that these “sucesses” (as he percieves it) as making him even more delusional of his own power…..And he convinces himself this power he percieves himself to have, that indeed the rules do not apply to him.
I also believe that he has this mind set, HIS perception of reality, and that conviction in him is SO strong, that his perception, regardless if it is off kilter, seems believable (somehow) because of his strong conviction behind it. Without much effort (or so it seems) he can be very persuasive to people.
As hard as it is to understand there is something that is intoxicating that they seem to put out there…..UNTIL you recognize that it all isn’t real. It is a performance if you will.
I wish I could explain it better…..But seeing it in a young person GROWING is absolutely unbelievable.
Stargazer you can get hooked in one conversation – it’s almost like they plant some kind of device in the brain that causes us to think obsessively about them. I am no expert in this matter (maybe someone who knows more can chime in here?) but I am wondering if we are much more sensitive to these encounters after we’ve been through the full scale relationship with a socio. It wouldn’t take much for the brainwashing to take effect again and it would feel so very familiar and comfortable.
I am glad you got a chuckle from the carol and that you’re questioning yourself – the memory of this scumbag will go quickly as you only had two conversations – don’t pursue it – I have red flags about it from halfway around the world just reading what you wrote about all the dramas. Remember if you have confusion or angst or someone is trying desperately to convince you of something (in this case that others are lying) there is something amiss and you should probably walk away. Witsend – the analogy of a spell is very apt – when I walked away from The Liar, I said to him ‘The spell is broken and I can leave now.’
There is something almost mystical in their ability to weave a web of deceit around us that we then become trapped in and can’t escape from. It is a pity you are seeing this manipulation and intoxication in your son – do you ever call him on his manipulation of people? Probably he would just deny it depending on his age.
Ladies we all need to be very careful with future men – our hearts have been tenderised by socios and we are vulnerable in their aftermath. Please look after your hearts and put yourself as number one – you’re so worth it.
They hook into us by compliments and seeming to understand us like no one has.. they give us attention and make us feel that we are being heard…
I could do this were I twisted…
Haven’t you ever been to dinner with a man.. have a glass of wine, feel all that energy of attraction and talk and wind the man around your finger.. look him in the eyes and make him feel like he is the master of the universe.. I have.. with a man that I loved.. then we went home and had the time of our lives..
This is what the con does all the time.. it’s a mind set.. and of course, all aren’t sociopaths.. but many almost all display manipulation and controll issues and predator traits whether it’s to get a woman into bed or whatever it is that they want.. they want your energy… they lack an inner compass, a moral adjuster of truth and honor….
they want to sweep you away into their agenda whatever it may be for one night or to live in your house or to take your money or your life.. I have learned to look at them through their words into their agenda..I have learned to ask what is it that they want from me.. then I look inside myself and ask what is it that I am looking for..
Is it just to get out of myself, for some interaction, or do I really have an interest in getting to know this person.. what is the attraction…
I look back on my last relationship with a conlike man and am comforted that I didn’t let him get in too deep into my psyche… and he had so much about him that would’ve wowed most women…being handsome, mannerly and intelligent…
dating again I am reminded how crude and obvious most men are on many levels…
I have been through many experiences and this last one was the strangest in that he appeared… to be real.. kind of.. and he had a refinement that I want..
To be hooked in a conversation to anyone to me states a large lack in yourself… like you are so needy that you let anyone in… that shows you some attention..
GeeZ! Play with them the way that they play with you.. Try turning the tables… focus on them, what are they looking for.. then provide it… say what they need to hear.. see what it is like to feel the power that they take from another…
I have done it.. and it makes me uncomfortable.. in that, I don’t like to be false on any level.. but if you do it.. it will give you a new outlook..
A couple of weeks ago .. I did this with a man … and I had him wrapped around my finger.. with no intention or caring on my part.. he had fun.. but I pulled away immediately…
play with who you are in relation to others.. don’t be so invested in their liking you.. but know that they want you.. so that is no issue..
It is insecurity and an empty hole that attracts the abusive and controlling situations to you..
Nip it in the bud…
I am doing a lot of thinking.. it is the energy exchange in any relationship that makes it viable…
And the con, sociopath.. is only thinking about that they can gain not the other person.. even as they may give a good show in the beginning trying to win your trust.. if someone is trying so hard to win your trust, get into your life, your bed your sphere of influence.. why is that? Being givers, we may just offer what we have up… instead of stopping to ask of think what’s in this for me? We may think that we are not worthy of getting that which we want and or need.. but we are.. I think this may be key…
I have decided I don’t want to be around a man that needs me.. I want to be around a man that likes me.. wants to take the time to get to know me who I am as a person and doesn’t tell me that he loves me until he does know me. This I love you in the first month is so superfical that it stinks. All anyone feels in the first month is attraction and affection… love takes time and deepens.. with time, experinces and enduring life together..
Love isn’t candlelight and roses.. it is really knowing a person good and bad…
Dear Star,
I think it is our normal need to be “connected” to a man or in teh case of men, to a woman. I think this is a primevil need in humanity. I.e. We are programmed to be “needy” for a relationship.
BUT, this said, we must, as we all have learned be CAREFUL in filling this need. After my husband died, I was NEEDY AS HELL, I was AFRAID of being alone without a partner. The FIRST P that came along, sensed this need, flattered me, and BINGO I am HOOKED, visualizing a life with him of sex, loving, fun, and bonding.
Once he had me hooked (a short time) BINGO he started branching back out to his harem of long time girl friends scattered over several towns. If I had married him to give him a “respectable married man cover” like he had before his last wife of 32 years had found him out and kicked him out, I would have really had problems! Thank GOD that I caught on in time, but not in time to save myself months of pain, longing, and second guessing myself.
However, since then I have finally gotten to the point in my life that I am NO longer AS needy for a relationship with a man, and I am NOT going to fall for some guy without caution and PROOF that he is an HONORABLE MAN—first sign of dishonest and OUT THE DOOR BOZO!
I am very tolerant of MISTAKES but have ZERO ZILCH NADA NO tolerance for DELIBERATE uglies or dishonesty! A mistake is bouncing a check because you added 2+2=5, but bounding a check when you KNOW there is no money in there, or using a closed account, that was DELIBERATELY DONE and dishonest. BIG difference in my book. NO second chances for “deliberates”—and only ONE second chance for mistakes, because you should LEARN FROM MISTAKES, but Psychopaths don’t seem to do that, so RED FLAG in a person who makes the same mistake over and over.
I DESERVE to be around and interact only with honest and good people, people who are kind and considerate. I do not deserve to be treated poorly, and ALONE is a lot better than as BAD relationship. Been there and done THAT! So, like a while back when I got so excited cause what was apparently a NICE widower (brotehr of a local guy I know) asked me out for a date, I was really excited, but later, he asked me to do something dishonest and illegal, which would have put ME at risk so HE could go for a thrill ride in my UNlicensed and UNinsured airplane—I told him NO—and guess what, haven’t heard from him again, but wouldn’t go to a dog fight with him if HE was one of the contenders! He demonstrated POOR judgment (at best) and at worst, showed he was a dishonest person without any concern for someone else’s risk. Either way, would I want such a person in my life? NOPE!
So my CAUTION when I first met him and went out served me well, and it will in the future as well I think. I am FINE without a male love relationship, I am WHOLE without one, happy witout one, and IF I were to find a good relationship it would be to SHARE that happiness, and I realize that nothing and no one outside of me can make me happy. Only myself.
Work on being your own best friend, Star, work on being HAPPY, not seeking anything else to “make” you happy. It works, believe me. Love oxy
Agree totally… Oxy..
I recall back as this is the time of year that I met mine…
and I spent Xmas with he and his mother.. and it was warm and cozy..
And he began with the dream visons.. of we might move to Jamica when this deal of his closes.. that he wants to have a portrait painted of me.. that he wants to buy me ball gowns for the opening on and on.. and this was between all the normal living of my moving into a new house.. he could read that I was used to the kind lifestyle that he spoke of but didn’ have.. but would have according to him..
I had my mind on moving and decorating then his mother got ill and there was so much going on.. but if I met him today.. when I am settled.. I would be able to see clearly that he was hopeful talking.. I saw it then but he still hooked me with all his helpfulness etc….
I am content with me and my life.. sure I would like a man in it.. but only one that brings me good things and the truth.. dreams and goals are fine but what is real is what is…
While he was talking all this he was about to be evicted… had a sick mother and me and my life became his rescue team… little for me and all the good for him… I lifted him into a better life.. he helped me hang art.. my father took him to fine dinners.. his daughter told me that her mother molesterd her…
He got the good life through me… I got stress and trauma through him…
Standing
In the hall of mirrors
I have seen before
time twisted, ground shifting
but the face I could always trust
body language that always told the truth
but your expressions so perfected
emotions locked inside or merely
reflected as best you could
what you did not count on
what you could not see
was the only thing not distorted
was me; I can be manipulated
but never controlled
walk through your doorways
drawn down your halls
but always, always
come out the other side
Dear Chrissy,
Thank you! “but always, always come out the other side.” TOWANDA!!!
Chrissy,
Beautiful poem, my favorite part is :
what you did not count on
what you could not see
was the only thing not distorted
was me;
He wanted me to kill myself. But he couldn’t quite get the hook because even after 25 years he never knew me.
Good Afternoon ALL,
Another powerful thread just when I needed it the most!!!!!!!
Went to a charity ball last evening—-have you already quessed? YOU WOULD BE RIGHT. In walks MR. CATFISH. I go gray stone to the max—thanks Oxy. This is after 10 weeks NC. Surprizingly I felt nothing but total contempt for him. But it gets real interesting. (BTW he was there alone/ I had a date) on with the story. CF(catfish) was sitting at another table, gets up comes to our table ask my date if he could sit there. Date says yes. (holy s).
He engages date in conversation and trys to pull me in—I get up and go talk to other friends.
It was totally bizzar. I absolutely refuse to look or speak to him. My date is clueless.
CF would only dance when I would dance either with date or other men . It was obvious that he was trying to make me angry. DID’NT work. He was totally fustrated. He even had thte nerve to ask my date if he could dance with me. What an a**. I looked him straight in the eyeball and said I don’t know you and I don’t dance with strange men. Talk about a picture being worth a thousand words. Total gray rock all night. It is priceless. Do I miss him That’s a big HELL NO. May he live in Spath hell forever. TOWANDA DOUBLE TOWANDA.
Thanks for reposting this tread. Happy Holidays All and drink a round for me. Love you guys. Seeing Clearly
Stay Strong, Stay Safe and Stay Sane