Last Friday Robin Hoffman interviewed me again on her radio show, The Feminine Soul. We discussed recovering from a relationship with a sociopath. She asked two very important questions, “How do we avoid picking another sociopath in the future?” and “How can we ever trust our instincts again?”
Coincidentally, yesterday I received this letter from a reader:
I got involved recently with a man who seemed to be the opposite of my previous psychopath. All the traits I like, strong, dominant, etc but seemed to have a good heart, and importantly a good history. I checked him out, he had a long service in the police force and a voluntary youth organization, was widely respected and successful.
Recognizing my vulnerability, I kept my eyes and ears open, and my heart guarded.
After 3 weeks I started to spot inconsistencies, tested a bit, and noticed the feeling of cognitive dissonance and didn’t ignore it.
After 6 weeks I ended the relationship, even though part of me was screaming inside “no, don’t do it”. Only afterwards did I discover that not only was he cheating on a wife who had cancer, but he was also cheating on a long term girlfriend, who genuinely loved him and is devastated. He was playing with fire by putting us both on the same webpage and we got chatting without having any idea of the relationships involved and it all came out. I’ve given her a link to saferelationships.com and can only hope she learns from the experience.
I SO proud of myself. I got out before getting involved, so it didn’t hurt. The experience was positive in that I made a different choice, for me. My stop light is starting to work and I’m learning I can trust my instincts again.
There are three parts of ourselves that are “taken” by the sociopath. The first part is the conscious mind. The sociopath fools the conscious mind by lies. It can be very difficult to detect these lies because skilled sociopaths use willing and unknowing accomplices to back up their lies. (This is why it is important for family members to distance themselves from the sociopath and his/her relationships.)
Sociopaths know to pick on trusting people. In general trusting people are loyal and trustworthy. These are good qualities so when your conscious mind is taken, you can be left with a lot of self-doubts. The strategy of carefully checking out people’s claims is a good one but it often takes time to uncover a sociopath’s lies.
Our unconscious minds also get “taken” in the sociopath’s con. Sociopaths are dominant and seductive. These traits may be arousing and attractive. I think that this may be in born. We may be attracted to these traits instinctively just like certain body parts are arousing for some.
Even though the attraction to the dominance and seductiveness of sociopaths may be instinctual, I don’t think we are stuck with it. I was able to train myself to be different and I want to share with you how I did it.
I am somewhat ashamed to say it took me too long to understand that I was drawn to sociopaths because of their dominance behavior. Once I understood this, I set out to find a way to feel differently about them. I wanted to like them less. I had always observed that there were some mental health professionals who were instinctively repulsed by sociopaths and I wanted to know what was different about them.
In studying the literature on dominance behavior and personality I discovered that dominance and empathy are opposed to each other. When dominance motives are in play empathy is turned off. The hormones of dominance also turn off empathy. The opposite is also true empathy and affection also suppress dominance motives.
Armed with this knowledge I set out to study men I knew who had long track records of loving empathetic behavior. I spent hours talking with them about their views of love, life and life’s purpose. I did this until the lesson had sunk in emotionally not just intellectually. A fully human person, male or female is loving and devoted. He or she is able to control dominance motives and express them only when appropriate.
Since this emotional lesson sunk in, I have found myself actually repulsed by dominant people. I no longer admire them or find them entertaining. Instead, I emotionally experience them as they are, shallow and lacking in important qualities.
Sociopaths also “take us” on another level. They manipulate us into forming bonds with them. These bonds are unconscious and chemical- whether the sociopath is a family member or lover. Breaking a bond with a sociopath is very painful. We do not have to be enslaved by our human bonds, we can acknowledge them and realize that at times these bonds have to be broken even though doing so is painful and difficult.
To sum it up then your new wiser mindset may have many aspects to it. Wisdom is a practice as well as a state of mind.
LOL!! I must have posted with you at the same time. Yep! That is I – And I am NOT two faced. I do live however with a constant up and down and back and forth so mine got me real good with the whole Push you away come back. Perfect for a crazy Gem like me.
The 1st time he went it was for extortion and running from the police. What a fool. This brilliance thought he’d just tell someone to call her mother up and demand money – as if the woman wasn’t smart enough to say “hey, let me call the FBI”
Dumb@.......##
Iwonder: Of course your EX told you to work on yourself … did you really expect him or any of our EXs to take the blame for how they act? It always has to be us, never them.
Don’t buy into anyone, ever, when they put you down or insult you verbally. This tactic is always used by insecure individuals to win at any cost. Think about what I am telling you … the minute he (OR anyone for that matter) insults you, you get thrown off the track of the conversation you are having. The conversation then ends abruptly, nothing was resolved, and you ended up walking around … for months thinking about his (or anyone’s) derogatory statement he (they) made/make to you. Derogatory insults or statements are SMOKESCREEN techniques cause the person you are talking with doesn’t want to answer your question. Period.
From here on out … stop giving your power away to other people … you know you are a good person and your opinion of who you are is the only one that counts. What you think of yourself. Because …………… who knows us better than ourselves … (and of course our parents). This goes for everyone you meet or currently know … not only your EX, but everyone. Pay attention to when someone is smoke screening you (smoke screens are … e.g. the man behind the curtains in the wizard of oz movie … “Don’t pay attention to the man behind the curtains I, I, I am the all and powerful oz … when the all and powerful was the little man behind the curtain talking into a loud speaker to sound powerful) … the best way to do that is to insult you to get you off the original conversation.
Now, I’m off to seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the Wizard … the wonderful Wizard of Ozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Peace.
IWonder – Mine didn’t use one particular line with me – he has however, told at least two women – his girlfriend – and an old girlfriend of his from high school that he was “making them his girlfriend.” The 18/19 year old supposedly had a boyfriend when they started hooking up. He probably is plotting his way (if he hasn’t already) to say “you WILL be my girlfriend.” He always criticized the boyfriends of the girls we worked with at the restaurant. Especially the youn ones. Ohh, yeah, I remember him once getting almost angry that and 18 year old girls 20 sister said that a 32 year old man and an 18 year old was creepy. He said she was just jealous.
EGO!!!!
Gemini: What a Dumb@.......##! LOL! I guess he thought it didn’t hurt to try! LOL!! Hilarious!
When my ex wanted to keep the car I paid for I told him he could if he could re-finance the loan in his name. He wanted me to keep the loan in my name and just make the payments because he had no credit. I said, “what do you think, I’m a bank?? The bank is closed!!!” They’re so stupid. I guess they’ll try anything to get something. TI said, “here’s a clue: get a job, save your money and buy a car!” Then there was the deed to my condo problem. He had his name on it and didn’t want to sign it back over to me. I had to use blackmail to get it back and threaten to call the prosecutor for fraud. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Hi Wini,
No, he told me he needs to work on himself. Not that I need to work on me. But about the insults and verbal assaults: yes. exactly true. I don’t listen to that crap. He was doing that to control me and put me down but it didn’t work.
OH WINI I just love the Wizard of OZ – I am a friend of Dorothy’s ya know………….
Mine stopped getting access to my car. I don’t even remember when or how I stopped it or maybe it’s cause he’d always get a ride from the teenager after work – she lived right up the road from him but he never did drive it towards the end. He had his name on nada!!! He lived here, ate my food, used my car and used my phone. That was what he wanted to keep – the phone. I fought with him for almost an hour about that damn thing!!!! Finally I was like – great have at it. But the $#%* is getting cut off tomorrow. And I did. And now he has a phone he cannot use. Just had to keep it so he’d have a reason to have something. HE MAKES ME SICK!!! As you may can tell I’m a little angry right now. I DON’T WISH PEOPLE DEAD BUT BOY DO WISH HE WAS SITTING IN A CELL SOMEWHERE. But his mama would bail him out I’m sure. The co-dependencies of a sociopath and his sociopath mom.
BTW – Congrats for gettin his crap out of your house!!! Cheers!!
I’ve heard all of this stuff – IWonder. Would you believe mine said the exact same thing “I’m not ready for a relationship, this year is about making money and saving. I haven’t even seen my son in a year!” But your behind is runnin around with 18 year old girls and escorts and drinking (cause I’m the one stressing you out) but you can’t gather some cash together to get on a bus or train and go see your son. Now you are worried about it. PULESE!!!!!
Gemini Crickit—–Mine didnt have a drivers license – he had people haul his butt back and forth to work for ten years before I helped him buy a car. Did I ask if he had a DL before I did it? DUH no dumb ass me. OH GOD the rest is just history…And his cell phone that rang all nite long??? Well I put it in the microwave for 4 seconds—-works like a charm…
Henry: Do you … or anyone really know what the wizard of Oz is all about?
Well, my bosses did the wizard of oz to me during and after my suit. My Ex is the “horse of a different color” … my bosses (all of them) were all the wicked witches of the N,S,E and West (and of course, that’s where their offices were located too) … I was Dorothy, thinking I should carry a bucket of water around with me while I worked there … in case I had to throw the water on one of them to melt their beautiful wickedness …. the yellow brick road is GREED (golden road???) the characters of the Tin Man (no heart), Lion (no courage), Scarecrow (no brains) … ToTo was the only one who had his act together … Dorothy finding out … stop looking at the illusion in life and pay attention to your surroundings and who really loves you (there’s no place like home) … the Wicked Witch of the East of course is the psycho personalities in the world … well, you get my drift … based on the dependency of money and greed, power and wealth … versus common man/woman … there’s more to it … but that’s at another writing. Oh, and lets get every one stoned so they don’t pay attention to the man/woman behind the curtains … Poppies, poppies, poppies … keep the masses stoned.
Next week, I’ll tell you what Alice in Wonderland is really all about …
Peace.